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Re: Welcome To Charlotte: Vernon Carey Jr 

Post#21 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:38 am

There was a video on YouTube somewhere of Carey straight drilling Wiseman in highschool for what its worth.
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Post#22 » by BigSlam » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:43 am

Braggins wrote:Someone posted in another thread hes apparently already lost 30 pounds since the college season.

He’s the anti Sean May.


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Post#23 » by Braggins » Thu Nov 19, 2020 4:47 am

James Gatz wrote:Tillman and Joe were on the board so I'm less bullish. Feels a little lazy as he's a Duke guy. I'm hopeful the weight loss means something.

Joe is still on the board and we appear to still have pick 56. Thats who I'm hoping for there.

Edit: Never mind, Philly took him at 49. Seems like a great pick for them.
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Post#24 » by JMAC3 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:31 am

yosemiteben wrote:Wow, dude averaged 18 and 9 as an 18 year old in the ACC. That is impressive.


That was in 24 minutes as well. His per 36 numbers are insane.

Had PER (34)higher than Toppin (32.4) and was the second highest Win Shares per 40 mins in college basketball (Toppin was third).

As far as how I view him, think he lacks athleticism, but apparently he has done a great job transforming his body since the end of the year. I don't hate him as an upside play at just 19 years old.

Typically someone who produces at this level their Freshman Season at Duke after being a McDonalds All American (5th rated HS prospect) would be a lottery pick.
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Post#25 » by SWedd523 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:33 am

I feel like I would've preferred Oturu, but whatever. Let's see what the big **** has
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Post#26 » by yosemiteben » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:43 am

Wait he was 18 and 9 in just 24 MPG as a true freshman? Wtf
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Post#27 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:44 am

yosemiteben wrote:Wait he was 18 and 9 in just 24 MPG as a true freshman? Wtf


He doesnt jump 50 feet in the air or he would've went 1.
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Post#28 » by James Gatz » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:46 am

Liver_Pooty wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Wait he was 18 and 9 in just 24 MPG as a true freshman? Wtf


He doesnt jump 50 feet in the air or he would've went 1.


He's also like super bad on defense. Gets blown by all the time and isn't long enough/have the instincts to rim protect. Maybe losing the weight will help with that.
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Re: Welcome To Charlotte: Vernon Carey Jr 

Post#29 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:48 am

James Gatz wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:Wait he was 18 and 9 in just 24 MPG as a true freshman? Wtf


He doesnt jump 50 feet in the air or he would've went 1.


He's also like super bad on defense. Gets blown by all the time and isn't long enough/have the instincts to rim protect. Maybe losing the weight will help with that.


Super bad is a reach, but he did struggle guarding on the perimeter. If he really did shred 30 pounds surely that'll help
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Post#30 » by chabber » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:50 am

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This man been chiseling and sculpting that jawline.
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Post#31 » by JMAC3 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:54 am

Hard to pass on a guy who dominated this much in ACC at such a young age and seems to be taking his craft very serious with losing that much weight. I think he actually could develop into a starting center in a year or 2.

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Re: Welcome To Charlotte: Vernon Carey Jr 

Post#32 » by Diop » Thu Nov 19, 2020 5:54 am

he's got the intimidating look going, can't remember the last time we had a big like that
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Post#33 » by JMAC3 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 7:14 am

Did not watch much film on him heading into draft tonight. Just finished watching a 10 min clip and I’m sure I will watch more tomorrow.

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1. Gets off his feet better than expected on both offense and defense blocking shots.

2. Seems coordinated and once he gets the ball he makes quick decisions

3. Duke went to him a lot and in key situations
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Post#34 » by wilson115 » Thu Nov 19, 2020 8:32 am

Surprised he played face-up in high school. Heat were supposed to be high on him.

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Post#35 » by luciano-davidwesley » Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:24 am

Hoops intellect NBA comparison for him is a more explosive Zach Randolph and you can really see it in his post moves
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Post#36 » by Diop » Thu Nov 19, 2020 9:48 am

He leans into contact more than big Al which is good.
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Post#37 » by Bassman » Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:17 am

I love the pick. Great upside and skills. If he is dedicated he can improve defensively.
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Post#38 » by Lwcasu » Thu Nov 19, 2020 11:41 am

Bassman wrote:I love the pick. Great upside and skills. If he is dedicated he can improve defensively.


Same and he could easily be starting for us by year 2. Zeller isn’t the long term answer.
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Post#39 » by Vanderbilt_Grad » Thu Nov 19, 2020 12:42 pm

Lwcasu wrote:
Bassman wrote:I love the pick. Great upside and skills. If he is dedicated he can improve defensively.


Same and he could easily be starting for us by year 2. Zeller isn’t the long term answer.

It wouldn't shock me if he's starting by the end of the upcoming season. The team has a lot of guys who can pass, they need guys who think to score first and can make it happen. Vernon seems to fit that mold.
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Post#40 » by UNCNYC » Thu Nov 19, 2020 1:37 pm

If it makes you feel any better I would rather Carey than Wiseman
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