Charlotte: 2021/22 Projected Rotations

fox2jk · Post #21 » by **fox2jk** » Thu Dec 3, 2020 3:13 pm

And what lineup would you like to see?

I want to see what Graham, Rozier and Hayward can do on the floor at the same time but Ball may have messed that up.

HornetJail · Post #22 » by **HornetJail** » Thu Dec 3, 2020 3:18 pm

I think the Westbrook trade makes us drop a couple extra games and another spot in the standings.

I'm saying 31-41. Not good enough to snag a play-in tourney spot, not bad enough for a good chance at a top five pick in next year's draft. Hello, purgatory.

JMAC3 · Post #23 » by **JMAC3** » Thu Dec 3, 2020 3:30 pm

KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:
I'm saying 31-41. Not good enough to snag a play-in tourney spot, not bad enough for a good chance at a top five pick in next year's draft. Hello, purgatory.

Pretty short sighted view.

Purgatory would be a team of aging vets on long-term contracts that has a ceiling of the 10-7th seed in the East.

We are the opposite of Purgatory. If we win 35 games game this year that is fine because we still have a ton of room for internal development with our young guys and we have a lot of cap flexibility moving forward.

I hope we win 7th seed. Avoid Bucks in first round because we have nobody to guard Giannis, so we can avoid that I think the series will be fun.

Magic and Wizards are much more treadmill teams then us.

LofJ · Post #24 » by **LofJ** » Thu Dec 3, 2020 3:59 pm

KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:I think the Westbrook trade makes us drop a couple extra games and another spot in the standings.

I'm saying 31-41. Not good enough to snag a play-in tourney spot, not bad enough for a good chance at a top five pick in next year's draft. Hello, purgatory.

Since the new odds were instituted teams in the 7-11 range have jumped into the top 4 every year. The Pelicans and Lakers in 2019 and us and Chicago this year. It can and likely will happen again.

amcoolio · Post #25 » by **amcoolio** » Thu Dec 3, 2020 4:04 pm

KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:I think the Westbrook trade makes us drop a couple extra games and another spot in the standings.

I'm saying 31-41. Not good enough to snag a play-in tourney spot, not bad enough for a good chance at a top five pick in next year's draft. Hello, purgatory.

If we finish 31-41 that is likely a bottom 6 record. All teams in the West besides OKC will finish better than that. What east teams are worse than that?

HornetJail · Post #26 » by **HornetJail** » Thu Dec 3, 2020 4:13 pm

amcoolio wrote:
KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:I think the Westbrook trade makes us drop a couple extra games and another spot in the standings.

I'm saying 31-41. Not good enough to snag a play-in tourney spot, not bad enough for a good chance at a top five pick in next year's draft. Hello, purgatory.

If we finish 31-41 that is likely a bottom 6 record. All teams in the West besides OKC will finish better than that. What east teams are worse than that?

I've got Cleveland, Detroit, New York, Sacramento, OKC, San Antonio, and maybe 1 or 2 of Minnesota, Chicago, Orlando worse than us.

We will finish with a 7th-9th pick again, but I'm not counting on draft lottery magic to happen again for another 21 years :lol:

amcoolio · Post #27 » by **amcoolio** » Thu Dec 3, 2020 5:41 pm

KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:
amcoolio wrote:
KEMBAtheMETEOR wrote:I think the Westbrook trade makes us drop a couple extra games and another spot in the standings.

I'm saying 31-41. Not good enough to snag a play-in tourney spot, not bad enough for a good chance at a top five pick in next year's draft. Hello, purgatory.

If we finish 31-41 that is likely a bottom 6 record. All teams in the West besides OKC will finish better than that. What east teams are worse than that?

I've got Cleveland, Detroit, New York, Sacramento, OKC, San Antonio, and maybe 1 or 2 of Minnesota, Chicago, Orlando worse than us.

We will finish with a 7th-9th pick again, but I'm not counting on draft lottery magic to happen again for another 21 years

Well the good news is that this draft is 8-9 deep. However if we miss the playoffs I do think we'll end up with a top 7 pick. Unless we get pushed back in the lottery from other teams jumping us. How does seeding work with the play in tournament? I can see Minny and San Antonio finishing worse than us record wise but winning the play in, does that mean they pick 15-16 and the two teams they beat are behind us in the lottery?

JMAC3 · Post #28 » by **JMAC3** » Thu Dec 3, 2020 6:46 pm

Not saying we are better than every night, but I think we can compete with Orlando, Indiana, Toronto, Boston, Atlanta, Washington and Miami in a series. Only teams I feel like that truly outclass us are Milwaukee, Brooklyn and Philly (bad matchup).

I think we would of been better than Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland, and Knicks regardless of Hayward signing.

Anyways, we will know more about 15-20 games. Think we could be a surprise team, but we could also be the same team from last year will just have to wait and see.

geraldwallace · Post #29 » by **geraldwallace** » Fri Dec 4, 2020 5:58 pm

1.Ball
2. Devonte
3. Hayward
4. Miles
5. PJ

PJ said he was getting all his minutes pretty much at the center spot during the Gatorade Camp thing a few weeks ago

amcoolio · Post #30 » by **amcoolio** » Fri Dec 4, 2020 6:23 pm

geraldwallace wrote:1.Ball
2. Devonte
3. Hayward
4. Miles
5. PJ

PJ said he was getting all his minutes pretty much at the center spot during the Gatorade Camp thing a few weeks ago

That's what we want to see, however Rozier is starting and getting 36 minutes because the Hornets are trying to win

Rich4114 · Post #31 » by **Rich4114** » Fri Dec 4, 2020 7:23 pm

I'm starting to think PJ might start at C

Devonte
Rozier
Hayward
Miles
PJ

Rotations will include heavy doses of Monk, Zeller, Twins, Ball

BlackOutBuzz · Post #32 » by **BlackOutBuzz** » Fri Dec 4, 2020 8:32 pm

Lots of smoke now about going small with PJ at the 5: not sure how I feel about it. Probably worth a shot, though.

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MasterIchiro · Post #33 » by **MasterIchiro** » Fri Dec 4, 2020 9:30 pm

Rozier lost the PG spot to Devonte' last year. I think Zeller loses the center spot to PJ and Miles gets a boost moving up to 4. PJ and Miles are part of the future and Zeller is not. But like Devonte' as starting PG, PJ will earn his small ball center minutes. I expect us to experiment because we're still in a rebuild. And as the year progresses I expect LaMelo to challenge Rozier for a starting spot, moving Devonte' off-ball.

James Gatz · Post #34 » by **James Gatz** » Sat Dec 5, 2020 12:33 am

Rich4114 wrote:I'm starting to think PJ might start at C

Devonte
Rozier
Hayward
Miles
PJ

Rotations will include heavy doses of Monk, Zeller, Twins, Ball

I think it's more likely PJ closes games at the 5 than starts them.

I don't really love PJ as a 5 but I'm glad we're going to be trying it out. This year should testing our guys to see how they will fit in the long term.

JMAC3 · Post #35 » by **JMAC3** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 3:56 pm

Interesting to look back and read some of these takes prior to the season starting.

Couple things of note is Hayward has been playing 3/4 and not 2/3.
Monk has been non-existent of course.
Rozier vs Graham take has pretty much switched for most.
Biz obviously has been way bigger part of rotation, as many did not even have him as backup.
A lot of PJ at center talk here, which was spot on. Not so much starting, but still he is getting a lot of mins there.
Martin Twins have been way more important then initially thought.

JMAC3 · Post #36 » by **JMAC3** » Mon Jan 18, 2021 4:06 pm

I know we have been harping on the we need to improve Center talk the last few weeks, but once Cody is back here is what I hope we will see in the rotations. Here is my best guess at solid 10 man rotation (starters in bold) with 7 guys playing majority of minutes.

Ball (32) - Graham (16)
Rozier (32)- Graham (10)- Monk (6)
Hayward (36)- Martin Twin (10)- Monk (2) Would be three guard lineup with LaMelo for size
PJ (23)- Bridges (25)
Zeller (25)- Biz (12)- PJ (11)

Totals
Hayward- 36
PJ- 34
Ball- 32
Rozier- 32
Graham-26
Bridges- 25
Zeller- 25
Biz- 12
Martin Twin- 10
Monk- 8

Think that if we are shaking things up with Zeller it is perfect time to get Ball into the starting lineup. Have no problem with Biz playing 10-15 minutes per game as a backup and having PJ as a change of pace small ball center for 10ish minutes per game.

Post #37 » by **BigSlam** » Sun Aug 1, 2021 1:45 am

Thought it a good time to bump this thread - with the slight title change.

We already have 4 rookies from last year on the roster and drafted 4 more rookies this year. Can't imagine all of them getting playing time next season.

So how do people see our opening night line up and mins distribution looking.

And how do you hope our last game of the season line up and mins distribution will look?

Liver_Pooty · Post #38 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Sun Aug 1, 2021 3:19 am

I have absolutely no idea.

Post #39 » by **JDR720** » Sun Aug 1, 2021 4:20 am

Ball, Gordon, Miles and Plumlee start.

And then who knows. I don't see our starting lineup changing from last season, besides maybe PJ. Rozier has his bench spot. No idea who the backup center is. Graham is the PG if he stays, if he doesn't I assume we'll sign someone else. The backup SF is a tossup too.

euphorbus · Post #40 » by **euphorbus** » Sun Aug 1, 2021 10:38 am

JDR720 wrote:Ball, Gordon, Miles and Plumlee start.

And then who knows.

Rozier will be the starting shooting guard. I think that's a given, and he's earned it. Where does Mr. Washington fit in? My best guess is he will be coming off the bench at two different positions, four and five. I expect he will get plenty of minutes.