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2020-21 Stats
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:51 pm
by yosemiteben
Somehow Bonnell is the one posting advanced stats that is prompting me to start this thread. Let's use this for random team related stats, feel free to post player specific ones here or in the player thread.
Re: 2020-21 Stats
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 6:57 pm
by LofJ
It's a little early to be making conclusions, but it isnt surprising that the starters aren't playing well together. Graham and Washington have started the season cold and Biz remains a huge negative on offense. While I doubt that group will ever be an elite offense I expect the numbers will get a lot better when/if Graham and Washington start playing better.
Re: 2020-21 Stats
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 7:04 pm
by DY_nasty
Sure, I'll add one too. I figure alarming or cool outliers and trends belong somewhere other than buried within game threads...
Miles Bridges has yet to attempt a free throw this season.
Re: 2020-21 Stats
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 8:41 pm
by amcoolio
This is why I would trade for Markkanen and say "**** it" to the defense
We need frontcourt scoring, plain and simple. We are going to continue to lose until we get it.
Re: 2020-21 Stats
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:17 pm
by fatlever
Adding my stat that I posted the other day. After three games there is a nearly 50 point plus minus difference between Graham and Terry. With Graham + 21, Terry - 30. That is a bit alarming considering they've played about 60 or 70% of their minutes together.
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Re: 2020-21 Stats
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:25 pm
by fatlever
Terry on, Graham off, Terry is -23 and 31 minutes.
Graham on, Terry off, Graham is + 24 in 39 minutes
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Re: 2020-21 Stats
Posted: Wed Dec 30, 2020 9:28 pm
by DY_nasty
Its cool. plus/minus by itself is always kinda ridiculous. weighted +/- and similar pulls are the way to go there.
the lineup stuff is pretty interesting though
Re: 2020-21 Stats
Posted: Fri Jan 1, 2021 7:31 pm
by yosemiteben
Really hoping Graham / Rozier, Ball, Hayward, Miles, PJ is sustainable as a + lineup because that is a damn fun lineup to watch.
Re: 2020-21 Stats
Posted: Sat Jan 2, 2021 5:39 pm
by DY_nasty
Currently, Devonte leads the league with his AST/TO ratio.
Re: 2020-21 Stats
Posted: Sat Jan 2, 2021 7:35 pm
by yosemiteben
Re: 2020-21 Stats
Posted: Sat Jan 2, 2021 8:11 pm
by amcoolio
Ball Rozier Hayward Miles Washington is probably our best lineup but can't be played heavy minutes because of size and defense
Re: 2020-21 Stats
Posted: Sat Jan 2, 2021 8:43 pm
by BigSlam
yosemiteben wrote:WE'RE NUMBER 2!
We never win anything....

Re: 2020-21 Stats
Posted: Sat Jan 2, 2021 8:52 pm
by DY_nasty
help me understand why PJ has a 23% usage rate
Re: 2020-21 Stats
Posted: Sat Jan 2, 2021 11:51 pm
by SWedd523
amcoolio wrote:Ball Rozier Hayward Miles Washington is probably our best lineup but can't be played heavy minutes because of size and defense
I thought #smallball was the way
Re: 2020-21 Stats
Posted: Sun Jan 3, 2021 12:12 am
by JMAC3
yosemiteben wrote:WE'RE NUMBER 2!
Seems these are all starting units for most part, interesting
Re: 2020-21 Stats
Posted: Sun Jan 3, 2021 12:12 am
by JMAC3
yosemiteben wrote:WE'RE NUMBER 2!
Seems these are all starting units for most part, interesting
Re: 2020-21 Stats
Posted: Sat Jan 9, 2021 10:21 pm
by fatlever
WhichCarolina
@WhichCarolina
Charlotte #Hornets lineup of:
Graham/Rozier/Hayward/Bridges/Washington is (+36.1) in 50 possessions on the year per
@cleantheglass
This is the lineup that closed the game for CLT in the ATL win and had some nice moments last night win over NOP as well.
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Richie
@RichieRandall
Just as importantly, it features PJ Washington at the 5 — where the team's performed much better. The team is getting to their spots on offense and pushing the pace.
PJW playing with a C (-17.3)
PPP: 0.91
Allowed PPP: 1.08
PJW playing as the C (+9.8)
PPP: 1.17
Allowed PPP: 1.07
Re: 2020-21 Stats
Posted: Sat Jan 9, 2021 11:19 pm
by JMAC3
fatlever wrote:WhichCarolina
@WhichCarolina
Charlotte #Hornets lineup of:
Graham/Rozier/Hayward/Bridges/Washington is (+36.1) in 50 possessions on the year per
@cleantheglass
This is the lineup that closed the game for CLT in the ATL win and had some nice moments last night win over NOP as well.
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Richie
@RichieRandall
Just as importantly, it features PJ Washington at the 5 — where the team's performed much better. The team is getting to their spots on offense and pushing the pace.
PJW playing with a C (-17.3)
PPP: 0.91
Allowed PPP: 1.08
PJW playing as the C (+9.8)
PPP: 1.17
Allowed PPP: 1.07
Whaaaa??? We are better with our small ball lineup? These stats can not be correct. There are so many armchair QB's on here who claim that small ball lineup is why we are bad.
Re: 2020-21 Stats
Posted: Sat Jan 9, 2021 11:29 pm
by SWedd523
SMALL BALL!!!!!
2020-21 Stats
Posted: Sat Jan 9, 2021 11:32 pm
by BigSlam
JMAC3 wrote:fatlever wrote:WhichCarolina
@WhichCarolina
Charlotte #Hornets lineup of:
Graham/Rozier/Hayward/Bridges/Washington is (+36.1) in 50 possessions on the year per
@cleantheglass
This is the lineup that closed the game for CLT in the ATL win and had some nice moments last night win over NOP as well.
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Richie
@RichieRandall
Just as importantly, it features PJ Washington at the 5 — where the team's performed much better. The team is getting to their spots on offense and pushing the pace.
PJW playing with a C (-17.3)
PPP: 0.91
Allowed PPP: 1.08
PJW playing as the C (+9.8)
PPP: 1.17
Allowed PPP: 1.07
Whaaaa??? We are better with our small ball lineup? These stats can not be correct. There are so many armchair QB's on here who claim that small ball lineup is why we are bad.
Wait - so you think PJ has been playing well at the 5?
You don’t attribute any success to moments where Terry, Gordon or Miles have played out of their minds?
PJ has sucked at the 4 and especially at the 5. We are not winning or playing well because of #smallball.
Plus, when PJ is t playing the 5 Biz is - and Biz ain’t great so the bar is set low when he’s playing the 5 so the numbers are skewed.
I don’t know what to say man. You’re so blinded by your own narrative that you can’t see the forest for the trees.
You’ve got to come around to the reality that sport is not played on paper.