2021 Draft Prospect: Alperen Şengün

Post #1 » by **BigSlam** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 12:59 pm

Go for it.

Post #2 » by **BigSlam** » Wed Jun 23, 2021 1:05 pm

GoBobs · Post #3 » by **GoBobs** » Thu Jun 24, 2021 4:23 am

There is a lot to like here starting with production

19 pts 9 reb 1.3 stl 1.7 blk in 28 min, 81% from the free throw line, 68% 2pt percentage, MVP of the Turkish league at 18 years old

Very advanced skills for his age, good back to basket scorer, good ball handler for size, good passer for his size, good lower body strength, good rebounder and good defensive instincts

I think he is going to be Sabonis with good defense. PnR defense will be an issue and he will not be able to body up the huge centers. Still there is a ton to like. He gives us something we really need which is an inside scoring threat.

Post #4 » by **Diop** » Thu Jun 24, 2021 9:49 am

Diop wrote:

Read on Twitter

has anyone talked about this fella yet? plays like a bull

best compliment i read about him was how smart he was around the basket. so he's not all bully ball which wouldn't work in the NBA. (unless your Shaq)

this is what I posted about him in December last year, he loves bullying those smaller than him but has the smarts to adapt as well.

I'm really high on him as a future starting big

amcoolio · Post #5 » by **amcoolio** » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:44 pm

I'm starting to warm up to him, but like the 28 page thread in the draft forum that is arguing about his size, I'm just not thrilled with his measurables, especially with PJ alaredy undersized

Chapelchilla · Post #6 » by **Chapelchilla** » Thu Jun 24, 2021 2:55 pm

This is who I want most. A 7 footer who can run the floor and score around the basket like he does at age 18, against grown men? Yeah, that is what we need!

GoBobs · Post #7 » by **GoBobs** » Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:22 pm

Think he is going to be gone by 11. Okc will probably either take him at 6 or try and package the 16 and 18 to move ahead of us and get him.

Hornet Mania · Post #8 » by **Hornet Mania** » Thu Jun 24, 2021 3:43 pm

This is probably my favorite prospect we can reasonably hope to draft. Could definitely be wrong on him, young bigs are so tough to project, but he seems highly skilled and ready to contribute despite his youth.

I wanted to nickname him 'The Mechanical Turk' but he's just too fluid. His size/coordination combo is a good sign imo.

Chapelchilla · Post #9 » by **Chapelchilla** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 3:39 pm

Hornet Mania wrote:This is probably my favorite prospect we can reasonably hope to draft. Could definitely be wrong on him, young bigs are so tough to project, but he seems highly skilled and ready to contribute despite his youth.

I wanted to nickname him 'The Mechanical Turk' but he's just too fluid. His size/coordination combo is a good sign imo.

lol, thats true too, dude is doing 360 dunks and spin moves on the break as a Center! He probably goes before we pick unfortunately.

Liver_Pooty · Post #10 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 6:02 pm

6'10 wingspan is incredibly worrisome

amcoolio · Post #11 » by **amcoolio** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 7:58 pm

Also a reported 6 9, not a "true 7 footer"

That's Luis Scola measurables

Braggins · Post #12 » by **Braggins** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 8:06 pm

According to the draft board the 6'10" reported wingspan is wrong and its supposedly at least 7'. Also, his last official measurement was supposedly 6'9.5" barefoot. If both of those are correct then his size doesn't seem like much of a negative, and more just not a positive.

I do worry about drafting this dude a lot, but I think you probably have to take him if he falls to 11. I highly doubt he lasts to 11, though.

predators · Post #13 » by **predators** » Fri Jun 25, 2021 11:53 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:6'10 wingspan is incredibly worrisome

Would be kind of a disaster for his play style if that’s true. Is he getting an official measurement?

Post #14 » by **BigSlam** » Sat Jun 26, 2021 2:07 am

Could compare to a Sabonis type?

GoBobs · Post #15 » by **GoBobs** » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:25 am

predators wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:6'10 wingspan is incredibly worrisome

Would be kind of a disaster for his play style if that’s true. Is he getting an official measurement?

When you look at centers drafted recently there are plenty of guys with great measurements and athletic ability that have busted. Then there are guys like Jokic and Sabonis that were drafted later and became stars because they were skilled.

Is he going to body up Embiid or Drummond, no. Still seems like a great bet based on the skills he has at 18 years old.

SWedd523 · Post #16 » by **SWedd523** » Sat Jun 26, 2021 3:42 am

Jokic is also a massive human being not at all constrained by his size like the Turkish Penguin

JMAC3 · Post #17 » by **JMAC3** » Sat Jun 26, 2021 5:15 am

I was pretty underwhelmed with this guys tape, looks pretty slow. Does not look like he is very big. Doesn't seem overly skilled. What is he going to do at a high level in the pros?

Looks a bit awkward to me. This league looks horrible, so I do not really care if he won MVP honestly.

He looks like he will be smaller or slower than every single big he faces in the NBA.

KingCat · Post #18 » by **KingCat** » Sat Jun 26, 2021 7:59 am

JMAC3 wrote:I was pretty underwhelmed with this guys tape, looks pretty slow. Does not look like he is very big. Doesn't seem overly skilled. What is he going to do at a high level in the pros?

Looks a bit awkward to me. This league looks horrible, so I do not really care if he won MVP honestly.

He looks like he will be smaller or slower than every single big he faces in the NBA.

I agree, there is just something off about his movement. I'm also hearing Jokic comparison, but this guy has no mid range game at all. Feels like too old school of a big.

GiggitySmalls · Post #19 » by **GiggitySmalls** » Sat Jun 26, 2021 8:10 am

amcoolio wrote:Also a reported 6 9, not a "true 7 footer"

That's Luis Scola measurables

Louis Scola was not a bad player and at 11... If we get a player who plays like a prime Scola but can actually jump and move I'd take him. Scola would fit in today's league with the ease and be effective.

bravor · Post #20 » by **bravor** » Sat Jun 26, 2021 11:25 am

JMAC3 wrote:I was pretty underwhelmed with this guys tape, looks pretty slow. Does not look like he is very big. Doesn't seem overly skilled. What is he going to do at a high level in the pros?

Looks a bit awkward to me. This league looks horrible, so I do not really care if he won MVP honestly.

He looks like he will be smaller or slower than every single big he faces in the NBA.

I did not want to post bout him, but this is the feeling i have. To be honnest, Sengun is a well known name for having dominated in young european competitions (but he was paired with a much more athletic/mobile pf/c, haltali).
Turkish leagu has a lot of local big men who are pretty slow (but tall), and foreigners includes big from the balkan, and ofc couple american. But there are like 5/6 competitive teams with loaded rosters (at european level..), the rest is generally really average if not worst. So stats wise, it does not mean a lot, especially considering he did not play in a good european cup (EL, Eurocup or Basketball champion league)

I dont think he is "Bender slow", but he is far from Sabonis (Sengun might be a better face up shooter, but thats all).