Little Swaggy: The Kelly Oubre Jr Thread

[Snidely FC]

Does coming in 7th in 6th man voting make him attractive to other teams? gotta find a way to unload Oubre (esp if keeping him means losing Cody Martin)

[Liver_Pooty]

Does coming in 7th in 6th man voting make him attractive to other teams? gotta find a way to unload Oubre (esp if keeping him means losing Cody Martin)

Doubtful. Teams aren't stupid. Partially why no one wanted him in free agency last season (that and he was wanting wayyy too much money)

Thankfully his contract is only partially guaranteed.

[JMAC3]

I would see if Miami would do a Kelly for Duncan Robinson swap. Robinson has barely been playing in playoffs because they have Struss and Herro. Oubre expiring vs having Robinson under contract three more years may be worth it for Miami.

[amcoolio]

Robinson is quickly entering Bertans/Parsons contract territory. He isn't playing because hes terrible at defense. Honestly I'm not sure if he's any better than Oubre.

[JMAC3]

Robinson is quickly entering Bertans/Parsons contract territory. He isn't playing because hes terrible at defense. Honestly I'm not sure if he's any better than Oubre.

I think it is more a factor that Miami has too many good players. Jimmy is elite, Herro is a 30+ mpg guy, Oladipo is back, Struss and Robinson are redundant, Caleb Martin does all the little things.

Idk if he is the perfect fit, but he is a guy on my radar depending on if we end up moving Hayward, Rozier types.

[JDR720]

Robinson is too expensive for what he is, a 3pt specialist.

[HornetJail]

Robinson is quickly entering Bertans/Parsons contract territory. He isn't playing because hes terrible at defense. Honestly I'm not sure if he's any better than Oubre.

Exhibit ABCDEFGHIJK (you get the point) that Miami is absolutely insane at making role players look better than they are, and then dupe themselves into signing them to these enormous contracts that they can't live up to.

Saw that one coming a mile away. It's probably coming for Caleb Martin and Max Strus this summer, get ya popcorn

[JMAC3]

I agree Robinson is an overpay, but he could have value for the right team. Especially if all it takes to get him is an expiring, not sure we are the right team but dude was playing 28 mpg on a team that made the finals 3 years ago while shooting 40% from deep.

Also, not sure I buy the he is an awful defender talk. He is 6-7 and at least puts in effort on that end Been a 1.6-2.0 DWS over last three years.

[amcoolio]

All I know is that Miami fans want him gone immediately because of his awful defense, maybe they are being emotional

[KingCat]

Avid watch of the Heat. Duncan for Oubre is a terrible idea. He is locked into a long term deal and is unplayable unless he is scorching hot. Oh and his streakiess is just as bad as Oubre.

[CuseMayne]

His contract has become fully guaranteed. Look, I still think we have enough talent to compete for a spot in the playoffs, and Clifford/MJ damn sure aren't trying to rebuild. If Clifford can get through to Kelly, mainly on the defensive end, he could be a key player for us. He has all of the physical tools in the world, and he's going to be playing for his next contract this year. He has a ton of talent and if he realizes he needs to really lock in on both sides of the ball, and if Clifford can maximize his abilities, he can be a damn good player for us. He was a 6MOTY candidate for probably 60% of the season before becoming complacent.

All of this Miles **** is nothing short of heartbreaking, but clearly he had no care in the world how his actions affected others. So if we dwell on his punk ass for years that's just adding more weight to his terrible actions/the fact that he didn't care. WE shouldn't care about him anymore. He's in the rear view.

McD is also playing for his next contract. These 2, PJ, Kai, Thor...we have promising forwards. Bouk/McGowens/Lewis (who I think has potential) for young guards. It was going to be hard to get a proper look at as many of these guys as possible with Miles likely logging 32-34 MPG, but obviously that's not happening now. Let's see what these young pieces are really about this year. Worst case, we know that they all suck and next offseason we'll have a lot of flexibility to make a STRONG push for roster upgrades as that offseason will be the most critical towards showing Melo we can be a perennial playoff contender.

[W_HAMILTON]

As a casual fan, I never got the Oubre hate. Sure, he makes some boneheaded plays, doesn't seem to try like he should on defense -- that could be said about most of our players, though, so I'm wondering if it's a coaching issue... -- and is streaky, but when he's on, he's one of our best players and certainly has had a hand in directly helping us win quite a few games. He also comes relatively cheap when you compare it to what he provides for the team.

I have absolutely no problems with bringing him back, especially given how the Bridges situation has pretty much upended whatever plans we might have had...

[JMAC3]

Oubre is a player who people focus on his negative aspects like he is a max contract guy. Nobody is arguing he is awesome value, but hearing people complain about him non-stop when he probably legit won us 4-5 guys last almost single handly.

For 13 Million he is really good player. I would rather him than Gary Harris, Bagley got 3/37, Boucher got 3/35.

Hard to really be that harsh on a guy who averages more ppg than you're paying him.

[SWedd523]

I just don't think Oubre is capable of playing winning basketball. Therefore, I'd rather give 100% of his minutes to young guys that need development time.

If he were a steady vet and a good example for the young guys to emulate, then that would be a different story.

[Liver_Pooty]

I'd like him a lot more if he wouldn't shoot every time he touches the ball. He's a beautiful man though.

[CuseMayne]

I just don't think Oubre is capable of playing winning basketball. Therefore, I'd rather give 100% of his minutes to young guys that need development time.

If he were a steady vet and a good example for the young guys to emulate, then that would be a different story.

Well, he's another player that points to why I think this Clifford hire might actually be a very strong fit. Either Oubre buys in, or he's gone to the bench and not to be re-signed.

[HornetJail]

I'd like him a lot more if he wouldn't shoot every time he touches the ball. He's a beautiful man though.

having seen him pass and try to make decisions on the fly, I think I'd rather him shoot every time he's able to get a half decent look

[MasterIchiro]

If there's one player I can't wait to see Clifford punish for going rogue on offense and faking defense, it's Kelly Oubre. He's one of the worst team players I've seen since JB arrived and implemented a ball movement scheme. He really doesn’t fit at all.

[JMAC3]

I just don't think Oubre is capable of playing winning basketball. Therefore, I'd rather give 100% of his minutes to young guys that need development time.

If he were a steady vet and a good example for the young guys to emulate, then that would be a different story.

I guess if we need a scape goat. Lets blame the guy who shot above league average for a guard in EFG%, made the 20th most threes in League, scored the 4th most points for our team last year and is paid as a bench player.

Makes sense- can't believe he isn't a two way stopper who averages 20 and shoots 40% from deep.

[SWedd523]

What a completely out of left field response LMFAO