ImageImage

BFHOS - NIC BATUM?

Moderators: fatlever, JDR720, Diop, BigSlam, yosemiteben

yes or no?

yes
24
96%
no
1
4%
 
Total votes: 25

User avatar
fatlever
Senior Mod - Hornets
Senior Mod - Hornets
Posts: 58,904
And1: 15,501
Joined: Jun 04, 2001
Location: Terrapin Station
     

BFHOS - NIC BATUM? 

Post#1 » by fatlever » Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:45 am

should nic batum be inducted into the The "Brown Frown" Hall of Shame?

2/3 yes = In

make your arguments pro/con

for reference

viewtopic.php?f=53&t=2176560
User avatar
luciano-davidwesley
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 7,954
And1: 2,694
Joined: Aug 03, 2002
Location: Gold Coast
Contact:
   

Re: BFHOS - NIC BATUM? 

Post#2 » by luciano-davidwesley » Mon Mar 21, 2022 8:00 am

It's Nic Batum. No explanation required. He's first ballot no question.
User avatar
Snidely FC
Head Coach
Posts: 6,329
And1: 3,614
Joined: Jan 19, 2011
Location: Asheville, NC

Re: BFHOS - NIC BATUM? 

Post#3 » by Snidely FC » Mon Mar 21, 2022 11:44 am

with his contract stretched his laissez ass is STILL hurting this team
User avatar
SWedd523
RealGM
Posts: 13,481
And1: 6,450
Joined: Jul 07, 2009
   

Re: BFHOS - NIC BATUM? 

Post#4 » by SWedd523 » Mon Mar 21, 2022 2:16 pm

This is such an obvious yes that if he doesn't get a 100% vote then I'll be surprised.

There are a lot of things I can forgive. Injuries, bad fit, bad coach/team, and so on

What the Dude absolutely cannot abide is you phoning it in immediately after receiving a big contract, not taking a team friendly buyout to leave after stealing money from them, forcing the team to stretch you and keep paying you years after you left while you go to a different team and immediately play harder.

Oh yeah, and he ruined the last couple good years of Kemba's career by being an albatross

Batum belongs in the pantheon of the BFHOS
Image
wilson115
Starter
Posts: 2,356
And1: 1,567
Joined: Aug 21, 2020
 

Re: BFHOS - NIC BATUM? 

Post#5 » by wilson115 » Mon Mar 21, 2022 2:32 pm

Only thing I've got against the logic is Rich Cho should be front of the line.
Hornet Mania
General Manager
Posts: 8,989
And1: 8,467
Joined: Jul 05, 2014
Location: Dornbirn, Austria
     

Re: BFHOS - NIC BATUM? 

Post#6 » by Hornet Mania » Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:11 pm

Batum is the complete BF package. His contract set the franchise back a half-decade and ruined the Kemba era.

The fact he became a serviceable player again immediately in LA is even more proof that he was just a guy who didn't give a damn, not someone who got overpaid and then tried but failed to live up to the contract.

Aside from George Shinn and Ray Woolridge I supect no Hornet-affiliated person in history would draw more ire from the fan base.
Rays Pompadour
Senior
Posts: 648
And1: 488
Joined: Jul 08, 2018
     

Re: BFHOS - NIC BATUM? 

Post#7 » by Rays Pompadour » Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:15 pm

One of the overlooked benefits of the Batum stretch is the handcuff on spending. Forced the Hornets to develop and rely on a bunch of second round players. Also made Greensboro more meaningful. I'd feel better if Hayward could stay healthy, but silver lining and all that.
User avatar
HornetJail
RealGM
Posts: 46,387
And1: 14,139
Joined: Feb 05, 2012
     

Re: BFHOS - NIC BATUM? 

Post#8 » by HornetJail » Mon Mar 21, 2022 3:42 pm

might as well rename the whole **** thing after him
investigate Adam Silver
User avatar
fatlever
Senior Mod - Hornets
Senior Mod - Hornets
Posts: 58,904
And1: 15,501
Joined: Jun 04, 2001
Location: Terrapin Station
     

Re: BFHOS - NIC BATUM? 

Post#9 » by fatlever » Mon Mar 21, 2022 4:09 pm

The person who voted no, I would be curious to hear an explanation as to why he should not be included. Unless someone clicked on the wrong button or someone is just f****** with us.

Sent from my SM-G973U using RealGM mobile app
User avatar
SWedd523
RealGM
Posts: 13,481
And1: 6,450
Joined: Jul 07, 2009
   

Re: BFHOS - NIC BATUM? 

Post#10 » by SWedd523 » Mon Mar 21, 2022 5:51 pm

no way to make votes public?
Image
User avatar
yosemiteben
Forum Mod - Hornets
Forum Mod - Hornets
Posts: 22,216
And1: 15,464
Joined: Mar 20, 2013
   

Re: BFHOS - NIC BATUM? 

Post#11 » by yosemiteben » Mon Mar 21, 2022 6:24 pm

This tweet should be the logo for the award:

Read on Twitter
User avatar
Liver_Pooty
RealGM
Posts: 40,720
And1: 16,714
Joined: Dec 29, 2008
Location: Asheville, NC
   

Re: BFHOS - NIC BATUM? 

Post#12 » by Liver_Pooty » Mon Mar 21, 2022 6:50 pm

fatlever wrote:The person who voted no, I would be curious to hear an explanation as to why he should not be included. Unless someone clicked on the wrong button or someone is just f****** with us.

Sent from my SM-G973U using RealGM mobile app


Lol tell us who it was.
Balllin wrote:Zion Williamson is 6-5, with a 6-10 wingspan. I see him as a slightly better Kenneth Faried.
User avatar
fatlever
Senior Mod - Hornets
Senior Mod - Hornets
Posts: 58,904
And1: 15,501
Joined: Jun 04, 2001
Location: Terrapin Station
     

Re: BFHOS - NIC BATUM? 

Post#13 » by fatlever » Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:10 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
fatlever wrote:The person who voted no, I would be curious to hear an explanation as to why he should not be included. Unless someone clicked on the wrong button or someone is just f****** with us.

Sent from my SM-G973U using RealGM mobile app


Lol tell us who it was.


i cant see that as a mod... i dont think
User avatar
fatlever
Senior Mod - Hornets
Senior Mod - Hornets
Posts: 58,904
And1: 15,501
Joined: Jun 04, 2001
Location: Terrapin Station
     

Re: BFHOS - NIC BATUM? 

Post#14 » by fatlever » Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:10 pm

anyway, case closed batum is 1st bfhos member
User avatar
luciano-davidwesley
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 7,954
And1: 2,694
Joined: Aug 03, 2002
Location: Gold Coast
Contact:
   

Re: BFHOS - NIC BATUM? 

Post#15 » by luciano-davidwesley » Mon Mar 21, 2022 9:30 pm

yosemiteben wrote:This tweet should be the logo for the award:

Read on Twitter

Yeah that gets me every time. Making himself out to be the victim :lol:
Just such a shame he didn't walk away! But remember he was "seriously considering" opting out of the last year of the deal. Yeah you're not only pathetic but a liar too Nic.
User avatar
Diop
Forum Mod - Hornets
Forum Mod - Hornets
Posts: 40,344
And1: 20,716
Joined: Jul 24, 2004
Location: Diop Dead Ugly
 

Re: BFHOS - NIC BATUM? 

Post#16 » by Diop » Tue Mar 22, 2022 12:53 am

yeah you can't see votes.
Image
Bassman
Lead Assistant
Posts: 5,961
And1: 2,070
Joined: Jul 02, 2006
Location: Bye FL back to MO; NC born & bred
       

Re: BFHOS - NIC BATUM? 

Post#17 » by Bassman » Tue Mar 22, 2022 1:57 am

The two most worthless players we’ve paid too much money to, and squandered their talent here due to….whatever…we’re both French. Nickless Batroom and Doris Meow. I say induct both worthless POS’s on the first ballot.
I continue to wait...and hope...for the return to Hornet's glory.
User avatar
geraldwallace
Junior
Posts: 308
And1: 271
Joined: Jul 02, 2017
   

Re: BFHOS - NIC BATUM? 

Post#18 » by geraldwallace » Tue Mar 22, 2022 2:12 am

luciano-davidwesley wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:This tweet should be the logo for the award:

Read on Twitter

Yeah that gets me every time. Making himself out to be the victim :lol:
Just such a shame he didn't walk away! But remember he was "seriously considering" opting out of the last year of the deal. Yeah you're not only pathetic but a liar too Nic.


His wife has also taken shots at the Hornets on Twitter, claiming we didn't let him "be himself."
User avatar
luciano-davidwesley
Retired Mod
Retired Mod
Posts: 7,954
And1: 2,694
Joined: Aug 03, 2002
Location: Gold Coast
Contact:
   

Re: BFHOS - NIC BATUM? 

Post#19 » by luciano-davidwesley » Tue Mar 22, 2022 3:04 am

geraldwallace wrote:
luciano-davidwesley wrote:
yosemiteben wrote:This tweet should be the logo for the award:

Read on Twitter

Yeah that gets me every time. Making himself out to be the victim :lol:
Just such a shame he didn't walk away! But remember he was "seriously considering" opting out of the last year of the deal. Yeah you're not only pathetic but a liar too Nic.


His wife has also taken shots at the Hornets on Twitter, claiming we didn't let him "be himself."

If she had any humility she would keep her mouth shut, seeing as though their family stole a living off this franchise.
bravor
Veteran
Posts: 2,582
And1: 823
Joined: Dec 30, 2015
 

Re: BFHOS - NIC BATUM? 

Post#20 » by bravor » Wed Mar 23, 2022 12:17 pm

Just added my own yes vote so it has to be either a clipper fan (blazer ? ) or a french fan (or a troll :D ) that voted no.

Still, as 'satisfying' this topic can be for some, the whole Batum situation was poorly managed by Hornet's organization. From the 5 year (PO) - which is the biggest mistake from Cho, even though part of the 120M should have been linked to performance on the court/AS or whatever incentive - to his fat contract to the way they let the whole universe they wanted to get rid of him during his 4th year of contract.
Even with the Hayward signing, they should have tried to recover some value since obviously he was not done on the court (which i suspected back in time considering how he performed with our nt already in the world championship in 19').
The biggest issue i have with some takes here is that he was not worthless. And he is still not. Which means if nothing changes in the organization (and i point out the technical staff, knowing it went south as soon as borrego took over), you can prepare for Batum 2.0 etc very fast...

But as LDW mentioned, the biggest blow for me is when he claimed he was thinking of giving up his last year option, which would have redeemed a bit of himself (not saying for everyone), to end up not giving up anything during the buy out talks.

Not gonna lie though, i am pleased of how he performed for our nt during last olympics.

Return to Charlotte Hornets