BFHOS - LANCE STEPHENSON

Post #1 » by **fatlever** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:39 pm

should lance be inducted to the BFHOS?

66% yes = in

Post #2 » by **fatlever** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:43 pm

Post #3 » by **fatlever** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:49 pm

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Post #4 » by **fatlever** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 7:51 pm

this is an easy yes for me. has any player ever gone from marquee free agent signing, expected all-star, to the team trying to bench and unload the player within 2 months?

dude was a trainwreck from day 1.

HornetJail · Post #5 » by **HornetJail** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:00 pm

i'd never been so stoked for a free agent signing

I voted yes, but he has by far the best highlight reel of anybody I'd vote yes for- even in that awful season he had some cool moments:

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Post #6 » by **fatlever** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:05 pm

no doubt he had at least 1-2 highlights per game. we need a lance being a clown video. did lamar make one?

Post #7 » by **fatlever** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:10 pm

its frustrating to see how much talent he had. just couldnt function off the ball next to kemba. couldnt shoot to save his life that year.

Liver_Pooty · Post #8 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 8:30 pm

Was stoked to have him and MKG on the wing together. Just a trainwreck

SWedd523 · Post #9 » by **SWedd523** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:17 pm

the voting logic by some of y'all is so weird.

He gets a no from me. He didn't quit on the team and didn't cause trouble and didn't have long term repercussions.

KembaWalker · Post #10 » by **KembaWalker** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:38 pm

SWedd523 wrote:the voting logic by some of y'all is so weird.

He gets a no from me. He didn't quit on the team and didn't cause trouble and didn't have long term repercussions.

the painful thing about Lance was that it was one of the few years we were justified in having excitement about potentially being good. his year is sandwiched between 43 and 48 win seasons. he wasn't just meh or "didnt live up to expectations", he measurably tanked one of the few decent cores we ever had when everyone expected the exact opposite

SWedd523 · Post #11 » by **SWedd523** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 9:47 pm

that wasn't because he was a bad apple or quit on the team

he was just put in a role he wasnt ready for with expectations he couldn't live up to.

If he had quit on the team like Diaw or Batum, or had beef with the team/coach, etc. then sure.

Post #12 » by **fatlever** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:26 pm

Disagree... there were reports as early as December of that year that Lance was a locker room disruption.

He wasn't mentally or physically ready for the start of that season and it showed quickly.

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Post #13 » by **fatlever** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 10:32 pm

We had to dump him for hawes, getting terrible value. We then had to dump hawes for miles plumlee who we had to dump for Dwight who we had to dump for biz. It set off a domino effect of terrible moves.

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Post #14 » by **Diop** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:16 pm

fatlever wrote:We had to dump him for hawes, getting terrible value. We then had to dump hawes for miles plumlee who we had to dump for Dwight who we had to dump for biz. It set off a domino effect of terrible moves.

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but then Miles Plumlee helped the Perth Wildcats win a championship, so there is a silver lining.

Post #15 » by **Diop** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:17 pm

Lance is a scientific phenomenon, for some unknown reason, he only plays well for Indiana.

Benjamin Linus · Post #16 » by **Benjamin Linus** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:29 pm

Voted no. Didn't cost us a pick or anything, only played a season with us and then we were able to flip him for Jeremy Lamb. I would have put Tyrus and Sean May in over Lance

Post #17 » by **fatlever** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:41 pm

Benjamin Linus wrote:Voted no. Didn't cost us a pick or anything, only played a season with us and then we were able to flip him for Jeremy Lamb. I would have put Tyrus and Sean May in over Lance

June 15, 2015: Traded by the Charlotte Hornets to the Los Angeles Clippers for Matt Barnes and Spencer Hawes.

am i misremembering? lamb was acquired for ridnour and a future 2nd.

SWedd523 · Post #18 » by **SWedd523** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:48 pm

fatlever wrote:We had to dump him for hawes, getting terrible value. We then had to dump hawes for miles plumlee who we had to dump for Dwight who we had to dump for biz. It set off a domino effect of terrible moves.

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all of which were the fault of the GM, and none of which belonged to Lance

Benjamin Linus · Post #19 » by **Benjamin Linus** » Tue Apr 12, 2022 11:54 pm

fatlever wrote:
Benjamin Linus wrote:Voted no. Didn't cost us a pick or anything, only played a season with us and then we were able to flip him for Jeremy Lamb. I would have put Tyrus and Sean May in over Lance

June 15, 2015: Traded by the Charlotte Hornets to the Los Angeles Clippers for Matt Barnes and Spencer Hawes.

am i misremembering? lamb was acquired for ridnour and a future 2nd.

ha my bad. Those moves happened all around the same time

regardless we were able to move on from him pretty easily. Unlike Tyrus were we had to trade a first to get him and then use our amnesty to get rid of him

HornetJail · Post #20 » by **HornetJail** » Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:08 am

fatlever wrote:
Benjamin Linus wrote:Voted no. Didn't cost us a pick or anything, only played a season with us and then we were able to flip him for Jeremy Lamb. I would have put Tyrus and Sean May in over Lance

June 15, 2015: Traded by the Charlotte Hornets to the Los Angeles Clippers for Matt Barnes and Spencer Hawes.

am i misremembering? lamb was acquired for ridnour and a future 2nd.

iirc we dumped Matt Barnes for Ridnour who was dumped for a TPE and acquired Lamb using said TPE

YES/NO