Offseason Thread

[JDR720]

Well, it's that time of the year again, fellas.

Things to do:

- Find a center (as usual)
- Find some 3&D players
- Resign Martin
- Trade at least one of Oubre, Gordon and Terry
- Hope Miles gets a reasonable contract
- Figure out what to do with Borrego
etc.

[luciano-davidwesley]

Well, it's that time of the year again, fellas.

Things to do:

- Find a center (as usual)
- Find some 3&D players
- Resign Martin
- Trade at least TWO of Oubre, Gordon and Terry
- Hope Miles gets a reasonable contract
- Figure out what to do with Borrego
etc.

Fixed

[Goodecharlotte]

At the moment I don't care what they do, I'm from England I've watched 82 games stayed up till 2.30 and later some games for that last night. I gave more effort last night just by staying up and watching that garbage. I'm so disappointed and yeah angry at the total lack of composure and game planning we showed last night on national TV, know wondered Shaq gave us know respect you have to earn that respect and we are so far away from it. The regular season was nice and yeah sometimes fun but it all means nothing when you finish the season on that pathetic performance. Rant over

[Benjamin Linus]

The Ringer have already posted an article about how bad we need to address our defense this offseason
https://www.theringer.com/2022/4/13/23024645/lamelo-ball-charlotte-hornets-play-in-defense

"It owns the weakest defense of any prospective contender, and the gap between Charlotte and everyone else isn’t even close... The Hornets allow tons of shots at the rim, tons of 3-pointers, and tons of offensive rebounds. They don’t defend picks well. By Second Spectrum’s measure of opponent shot quality, which analyzes factors like shot location and defender distance, the Hornets ranked 27th this season—ahead of only the Lakers, Trail Blazers, and Rockets."

Goes on to say that priority no. 1 should be getting a new center and suggests we go after Mitchell Robinson. Then compares our team to last seasons Mavs team who went from the 21st-ranked defense to seventh, and from the West’s no. 7 seed to a team with home-court advantage in the first round

[amcoolio]

The problem is 40 million in dead cap because of Hayward and Batum. Add in Rozier and thats half of the salary cap spent on players that we don't need and didn't help yesterday. We'd almost be very lucky if the Lakers take them for Westbrook just so we can get out of that log jam. One more year developing guys, then make the push in 2023-2024 season

[Snidely FC]

That game against ATL was a gut punch. No denying it sucked

But wins progression last 3 seasons - 23, 33, 43 - is an uptrend

The ATL meltdown showed the roster lacks balance - rim protection and reliable (not streaky!) shooting especially - but at least I feel like the team is finally building toward something

CHA featured one of the youngest teams in the league this year. I like Lamelo, Miles and PJ, with Thor and Kai waiting in the wings, and hope the team continues to prioritize long, big, multi-dimensional young players.

[fatlever]

I guess we will find out if the front office is serious about winning next year or if they plan on f****** around and wasting another year of melo's rookie contract.

As I was screaming all last summer, you got to add some veterans with Grit, Experience and Leadership. some Defenders, some reliable shooters, and obviously a legit Center. You can't go into the season next year with over half of your roster in first 2 yrs with no real experience.

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[Liver_Pooty]

First step is the Pelicans winning tomorrow night.

[fatlever]

https://www.reddit.com/r/CharlotteHornets/comments/u3g9tu/bobby_marks_offseason_guide_the_charlotte_hornets/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share

Credit scrypto with recap below...

A pretty in-depth review of the Hornets' situation, as well as their "lacking a sense of urgency" and "noncompetitive" play-in game. Some key points he mentioned:

1. Evaluation starts with the head coaching position

2. Bridges is not a max player, more of a complementary piece than a franchise player. Career year but play in game might be looked at. John Collins type deal would be fair.

3. Upgrade needs to be at center. Plumlee looks washed.

4. Lamelo Ball needs to improve in play in games after two terrible showings. Treated both of the games as a mid october matinee.

5. PJ Washington improved the defense when he started. However extending him takes him off the table as a trade piece. Teams will looked at Mikal Bridges and R. Williams as the limit for good players at those positions.

6. Russell Westbrook might actually be needed after the play ins. "At least he plays with heart." Mentions Hayward missing 60 games in 2 years including both play ins and the picks/trade exceptions we have that could make this type of deal work.

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[amcoolio]

If we can't land Gobert, who might be available if the Jazz lose again in the first round, I'd consider Westbrook and THT for Rozier and Hayward. Just because it gets us out of so much money after next year and it still seems we are a few years away anyway.

Pray and hope that PJ, Miles, Kai, Bouknight, Thor and Martin keep progressing and continue to draft decently

[fatlever]

For all of Westbrook's faults, one thing I'm certain of, he would have played his ass off yesterday.

I'm really not entirely opposed to the Westbrook idea. I like lamelo playing with other ball-handlers and creators since lamelo is actually pretty good off the ball. Playing with Westbrook is probably not too dissimilar from playing with his brother Lonzo.

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[fatlever]

https://theathletic.com/3249849/2022/04/14/hornets-building-lamelo-ball?source=user-shared-article

If you have access...

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[Chapelchilla]

Go Pelicans!

[MasterIchiro]

The possibilities increase if the Pelicans pick conveys as pick 15 to go with our pick 13/14. It's pivotal to our offseason. I think a big question revolves around the cost of the center we need. Can we get away with an MLE center? Do we need to trade pick 13/14 for one? Do we need to trade pick 13/14 + 15 to really move the needle? What type of center could we get for Rozier? Do we trade Plumlee and Oubre or buy them out? Do we bring back Trez and IT, lock up Cody Martin?

1) Target Poeltl and Turner draft night. Be willing to surrender both firsts if on hand because a center who protects the paint changes this team more than any factor.

2) If Poeltl or Turner isn't available for draft capital, keep the pick(s) and draft NBA-ready guys. You swung for upside last draft. It's time to balance it with players who can join the rotation and gun for the 6th seed. I selected Turner and Poeltl as my targets because Kupchak has been connected to both.

3) If draft night trades fall through target an MLE center. I have Nic Claxton on top of my list. The Raptors nearly acquired him for a 1st round pick. I don't know if Toronto balked or Nets balked. I wouldn't be surprised if they balked but I'd still offer the MLE. They probably want to bring back Drummond and like Sharpe as a young backup. I would be pissed if Claxton signed with the Raptors over the Hornets, but not suprised. At some point, playing alongside LaMelo should mean something for your career.

4) If there is no deal for Turner, Poeltl nor Claxton, I would target Gafford. I'd offer Jalen McDaniels as matching salary plus 2nd rounders.

5) If there is no deal for Gafford, I'd offer the MLE to Hartenstein.

6) Sign Miles to a John Collins deal, but be willing to match anything. We lose Miles, LaMelo will follow.

7) Try to dump Plumlee and Oubre. If no takers, buy out both players.

8) Sign-and-trade Martin like Devonte'. Take 2 second rounders

9) Do not bring back Trez or IT.

[Bassman]

Seriously examine if JB is good enough to keep coaching this team.

I had advocated trading for Myles Turner heavily preseason, then during the early season. Maybe Pacers did want way too much. But need someone of that caliber to make a difference. If you can’t then draft Williams from Duke. Yes a rookie but a big shot blocking rebounder with a nice touch. Not the answer but is anything next year?

I doubt Terry goes anywhere. Hayward is likely no option due to his injury history…far too damaged goods despite being a key veteran. One year older in a young man’s sport.

Yes need to dump the pretenders, the known rejects that Mitch signed anyway. Ugh.

[fatlever]

Cody is a priority for me. We really need 5 more like him.
What's his value look like?

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[Soul Rebel]

The Athletic article mentions revisiting Rashaun Holmes. If that’s a possibility, I wonder the cost.

Hayward + FRP for Myles Turner is my preferred path, but I wonder how appealing Gordo is to IND given their roster shakeup.

[Liver_Pooty]

Cody is a priority for me. We really need 5 more like him.
What's his value look like?

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Could've just kept his brother who was as good if not better than Cody this season

[amcoolio]

Cody wasn't without faults. He got burned several times last night and I noticed he got burned quite a bit the last few weeks of the season

[yosemiteben]

I would be shocked if NOP beats LAC. I'm definitely assuming we aren't getting that 1st.