GT: Charlotte vs Philly 11/23 PM EST

[JDR720]

Embiid out with a foot injury. They play the Nets on the 22nd.

[amcoolio]

I got floor seats through US foodservice to this game a month ago, and now LaMelo Ball, James Harden, Joel Embiid, and Tyrese Maxey are out. Its like the gods don't want me to watch good basketball.

[Liver_Pooty]

Much more excited for Simmons return to Philly tomorrow than this one.

[nature_boyy97]

I'm excited for this entire staff to be rebooted in 5 months.

[JMAC3]

I'm excited for this entire staff to be rebooted in 5 months.

Probably the wrong thread for this, but man its so doom and gloom.

I am sorry that it has been a rough few months, but I am not sure what fans are expecting?
Our franchise player has played in 3/18 games.
Our 2nd best player is on an unofficial ban and missed 18 games
Our 3rd best player (Rozier) has already missed 7 games.
Cody Martin has missed every game.
Hayward has missed 8 games.

That is 66 games right there out of 18 opportunities. Do we think Borrego would be doing better? How about Kenny Atkinson? Fans thought Borrego lost locker room and players weren't being professionals.

Clifford hasn't been great, but tough to really blame him. What more would you want from him up until point? He continued to play Bouknight even though he struggled, which is probably better than just being old cliff and benching him. He has developed Nick Richards much better than Borrego. Clifford has revived Dennis Smith Jr career and might actually turn into a guy that plays until he is 30 now. What is it? Are we really mad that Mark Williams isn't playing? It is not even 20 games into his career so not sure I care that much. He has dominated the GLeague, so its hard to say he is awful pick. His time is coming.

Being bad and trying to draft a young star in the top 3 is the clearest path to contending and it's not even close. LaMelo is 21, so developing another star that is a year or two younger than him makes a ton of sense vs trying to patch this thing over. I was all for trading for Donovan Mitchell, but we clearly didn't have enough assets. So now we have to be patient, be smart, draft well, develop our young guys and be disciplined in trades/FA.

Play LaMelo 30-40 games this year and just hope the ping pong balls like us. Him and Wemby would actually be title team good.

[amcoolio]

I'm excited for this entire staff to be rebooted in 5 months.

Probably the wrong thread for this, but man its so doom and gloom.

I am sorry that it has been a rough few months, but I am not sure what fans are expecting?
Our franchise player has played in 3/18 games.
Our 2nd best player is on an unofficial ban and missed 18 games
Our 3rd best player (Rozier) has already missed 7 games.
Cody Martin has missed every game.
Hayward has missed 8 games.

That is 66 games right there out of 18 opportunities. Do we think Borrego would be doing better? How about Kenny Atkinson? Fans thought Borrego lost locker room and players weren't being professionals.

Clifford hasn't been great, but tough to really blame him. What more would you want from him up until point? He continued to play Bouknight even though he struggled, which is probably better than just being old cliff and benching him. He has developed Nick Richards much better than Borrego. Clifford has revived Dennis Smith Jr career and might actually turn into a guy that plays until he is 30 now. What is it? Are we really mad that Mark Williams isn't playing? It is not even 20 games into his career so not sure I care that much. He has dominated the GLeague, so its hard to say he is awful pick. His time is coming.

Being bad and trying to draft a young star in the top 3 is the clearest path to contending and it's not even close. LaMelo is 21, so developing another star that is a year or two younger than him makes a ton of sense vs trying to patch this thing over. I was all for trading for Donovan Mitchell, but we clearly didn't have enough assets. So now we have to be patient, be smart, draft well, develop our young guys and be disciplined in trades/FA.

Play LaMelo 30-40 games this year and just hope the ping pong balls like us. Him and Wemby would actually be title team good.

I think fans are expecting the front office to pick a direction, not just do nothing and strive for the 10th seed again. You said "Being bad and trying to draft a young star in the top 3 is the clearest path to contending and it's not even close". I don't think the front office believes this. I truly think they think they are contenders when healthy and are just kicking around rocks and moping because they aren't healthy. They straight up blew the 2021 draft with two picks (one they traded a future first for), and then traded the 13th pick for nothing this year when we are clearly one of the worst 5 teams in the league. If Bouknight and Kai can't get into the rotation (and the had to know that during the draft, that they are still so far away), why are they trading a lottery pick? They are clueless, and it wears on the fans when you have a team like that. Its one thing to be bad and embrace it, that gives fans hope. Its another to be in this **** mess we are in right now.

[luciano-davidwesley]

I'm excited for this entire staff to be rebooted in 5 months.

Probably the wrong thread for this, but man its so doom and gloom.

I am sorry that it has been a rough few months, but I am not sure what fans are expecting?
Our franchise player has played in 3/18 games.
Our 2nd best player is on an unofficial ban and missed 18 games
Our 3rd best player (Rozier) has already missed 7 games.
Cody Martin has missed every game.
Hayward has missed 8 games.

That is 66 games right there out of 18 opportunities. Do we think Borrego would be doing better? How about Kenny Atkinson? Fans thought Borrego lost locker room and players weren't being professionals.

Clifford hasn't been great, but tough to really blame him. What more would you want from him up until point? He continued to play Bouknight even though he struggled, which is probably better than just being old cliff and benching him. He has developed Nick Richards much better than Borrego. Clifford has revived Dennis Smith Jr career and might actually turn into a guy that plays until he is 30 now. What is it? Are we really mad that Mark Williams isn't playing? It is not even 20 games into his career so not sure I care that much. He has dominated the GLeague, so its hard to say he is awful pick. His time is coming.

Being bad and trying to draft a young star in the top 3 is the clearest path to contending and it's not even close. LaMelo is 21, so developing another star that is a year or two younger than him makes a ton of sense vs trying to patch this thing over. I was all for trading for Donovan Mitchell, but we clearly didn't have enough assets. So now we have to be patient, be smart, draft well, develop our young guys and be disciplined in trades/FA.

Play LaMelo 30-40 games this year and just hope the ping pong balls like us. Him and Wemby would actually be title team good.

I don't think too many people are frustrated at Cliff specifically. The idea of rehiring your own retread is just pretty unpalatable for most. I personally think he's done a reasonable job so far given the injuries. I particularly like that he seems to place some emphasis on defense, unlike Borrego who let the kids and the vets basically just conserve energy on that end so they could try to outscore the other team.

I place more of my frustation in the direction of MJ and Kupchak, who have pretty much laid egg after egg since hitting the third pick lottery jackpot in 2020. Signing Hayward, stretching Nic Bum, awful 2021 draft. Awful trade of the 13th pick in the 2022 NBA draft. Mitch has also never really been a creative trader and seems to be reluctant to make in season trades.

If he's not drafting good prospects given his other limitations Mitch has no business being a GM.

[luciano-davidwesley]

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Glass man looks like he is playing today

[Diop]

I'm excited for this entire staff to be rebooted in 5 months.

Probably the wrong thread for this, but man its so doom and gloom.

I am sorry that it has been a rough few months, but I am not sure what fans are expecting?
Our franchise player has played in 3/18 games.
Our 2nd best player is on an unofficial ban and missed 18 games
Our 3rd best player (Rozier) has already missed 7 games.
Cody Martin has missed every game.
Hayward has missed 8 games.

That is 66 games right there out of 18 opportunities. Do we think Borrego would be doing better? How about Kenny Atkinson? Fans thought Borrego lost locker room and players weren't being professionals.

Clifford hasn't been great, but tough to really blame him. What more would you want from him up until point? He continued to play Bouknight even though he struggled, which is probably better than just being old cliff and benching him. He has developed Nick Richards much better than Borrego. Clifford has revived Dennis Smith Jr career and might actually turn into a guy that plays until he is 30 now. What is it? Are we really mad that Mark Williams isn't playing? It is not even 20 games into his career so not sure I care that much. He has dominated the GLeague, so its hard to say he is awful pick. His time is coming.

Being bad and trying to draft a young star in the top 3 is the clearest path to contending and it's not even close. LaMelo is 21, so developing another star that is a year or two younger than him makes a ton of sense vs trying to patch this thing over. I was all for trading for Donovan Mitchell, but we clearly didn't have enough assets. So now we have to be patient, be smart, draft well, develop our young guys and be disciplined in trades/FA.

Play LaMelo 30-40 games this year and just hope the ping pong balls like us. Him and Wemby would actually be title team good.

I don't think too many people are frustrated at Cliff specifically. The idea of rehiring your own retread is just pretty unpalatable for most. I personally think he's done a reasonable job so far given the injuries. I particularly like that he seems to place some emphasis on defense, unlike Borrego who let the kids and the vets basically just conserve energy on that end so they could try to outscore the other team.

I place more of my frustation in the direction of MJ and Kupchak, who have pretty much laid egg after egg since hitting the third pick lottery jackpot in 2020. Signing Hayward, stretching Nic Bum, awful 2021 draft. Awful trade of the 13th pick in the 2022 NBA draft. Mitch has also never really been a creative trader and seems to be reluctant to make in season trades.

If he's not drafting good prospects given his other limitations Mitch has no business being a GM.

yeah I haven't been overly pissed at Clifford this time round, but it really was a tough pill to swallow rehiring the coach you fired a couple of years back

[wilson115]

I place more of my frustation in the direction of MJ and Kupchak, who have pretty much laid egg after egg since hitting the third pick lottery jackpot in 2020.

Is it Mitch in the first place? Thanks to the Australia trip the LaMelo pick has always counted as Mitch's win—what if a lot of what's happened since has been a counter-reaction from some other faction? Always felt this FO's worked cross-purposes against itself ever since LaMelo came in.

[Diop]

i clearly owe Hayward an apology, nil time off!

[Liver_Pooty]

Clifford giving Kai minutes. I like it.

[Diop]

Kai the only one with heart enough to stop the easy lay up

[Diop]

and of course, another ankle!

[Liver_Pooty]

This seasons a **** wash. I can't remember the last time a team had injuries like this

[wilson115]

Not DSJ again. Damnit.

[nature_boyy97]

STOP

RUSHING

GUYS

BACK

[Diop]

STOP

RUSHING

GUYS

BACK

no one is overruling a Dr, if hes cleared, hes cleared. He stepped on a foot, that can happen to anyone

[Liver_Pooty]

Hayward is off. His shot trajectory is way higher than usual, and off. Shoulder injury isn't on his shooting side. I don't know.

[Liver_Pooty]

Nick is going to get paid.