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# of wins: 35 (hedging for Miles... 38 w/ Miles, 32 w/o Miles)
10th seed
most likely traded: Hayward
awards: Miller, 2nd team rookie, Melo All-star replacement

stats
Melo: 24/6/7 - 60 games
Miles: 18/6/3 - 40 games
Terry: 17/3/4 - 75 games
PJ: 13/5/2 - 75 games
Hayward: 12/3/4 - 35 games, traded
Mark: 10/9/1 - 65 games
Miller: 9/4/2 - 75 games
Nick: 8/7/1 - 75 games

will add more later

fatlever wrote:its that time

# of wins: 35 (hedging for Miles... 38 w/ Miles, 32 w/o Miles)
10th seed
most likely traded: Hayward
awards: Miller, 2nd team rookie, Melo All-star replacement

stats
Melo: 24/6/7 - 60 games
Miles: 18/6/3 - 40 games
Terry: 17/3/4 - 75 games
PJ: 13/5/2 - 75 games
Hayward: 12/3/4 - 35 games, traded
Mark: 10/9/1 - 65 games
Miller: 9/4/2 - 75 games
Nick: 8/7/1 - 75 games

will add more later

Everyone's stats seem super pessimistic and down across the board. Someone will have to score the points.

luciano-davidwesley wrote:

fatlever wrote:its that time

# of wins: 35 (hedging for Miles... 38 w/ Miles, 32 w/o Miles)
10th seed
most likely traded: Hayward
awards: Miller, 2nd team rookie, Melo All-star replacement

stats
Melo: 24/6/7 - 60 games
Miles: 18/6/3 - 40 games
Terry: 17/3/4 - 75 games
PJ: 13/5/2 - 75 games
Hayward: 12/3/4 - 35 games, traded
Mark: 10/9/1 - 65 games
Miller: 9/4/2 - 75 games
Nick: 8/7/1 - 75 games

will add more later

Everyone's stats seem super pessimistic and down across the board. Someone will have to score the points.

I agree. Mark for instance averaged 9/7 in only 19 mpg. Which make me think both Miller and Mark are low.

# of wins: 40 wins
8th seed- expect more parody this season.
Miller 1st team rookie
Melo All-star reserve

Stats
LaMelo- 24/9/7
Terry -19/4/4
Bridges- 17/6/3
Gordon- 14/4/4
Miller- 13/5/3
Mark- 13/11/2 (blocks)
PJ- 12/5/2
Richards- 8/7/1

Melo: 25/6/9 65 games
Miles: 15/6/2 50 games
Terry: 17/4/3 78 games
PJ: 16/5/2 80 games
Hayward: 12/4/4 55 games
Mark: 14/11/1.5 blks 60 games
Miller: 8/4/1 78 games
Thor: 7/4/1 75 games

Mark has a great season and is recognized as a up and coming young big around the league.

Miller is relegated to the corner by Cliff's offense and has a ho hum year for the most part, but has a bit of a break out in the last 15 games of the season averaging 16/6/2 on good splits during them

Thor becomes a quality wing off the bench and ends up being trade bait for the coming years.

Rumors of trading Terry and/or Hayward begin to ramp up around the trade deadline with many pundits saying it is a sure thing they are moved, but ultimately nothing happens.

Miles struggles to re-adjust to the NBA for the first 15 or so games he is back.

35 wins, just miss out on the playin. Cliff dismissed at the end of the year

Things end up looking a little bleak, but are given a glimmer of hope in the tall Boi line up of Lamelo/Miller/Thor/PJ/Mark

Stats

Melo: 23-7-9
Miles (if he plays): 15-6-2
Terry: 19-4-4
PJ: 12-5-2 with Miles, 16-6-3 if no Miles (I figure they split time at PF)
Gordon: 14-4-4
Mark: 12/12/2 blocks
Miller: 11/5/2
Thor: 5/4/1
Nick Richards: 8/8/1 block
Frank: 4/4/1.5 steals

Nobody else plays enough. Other Nick wll get some time if Miles is gone, 7/3/3.

Awards; if we make playoffs.

Melo - ASG reserve.
Mark - rookie/sophomore game. In the run for 2nd team all-defense.
Miller - 2nd team all-rookie.

Awards; if we do not make playoffs.

Mark - rookie/sophomore game.
Miller 2nd team all-rookie.

Projection

Floor: 30 wins, everyone is hurt and we have no depth. Miles is gone.
Ceiling: 45 wins, the team is fairly healthy but we're too reliant on Melo. Miles is suspended 1/4th of the season.

Most likely traded: Gordon

We're looking at two completely different teams with or without Miles so I'm just gonna do predictions for both cases.

If Miles plays 65-70 games:

40-42 - 9 seed, loss in 2nd play-in game (progress!!!)
most likely traded: Martin
awards: Brandon Miller 1st team all-rookie, LaMelo All-Star

stats:
LaMelo: 21/6/10, 1.9 steals on 44/39/86 splits
Miles: 19/7/4 on 47/34/77
Terry: 20/4/4 on 42/38/80
PJ: 13/6/2 on 46/38/72
Hayward: 15/5/4 on 48/38/82
Mark: 12/11, 1.8 blocks on 63/0/65
Miller: 10/5/3 on 42/36/83
Richards: 6/6/1 on 60/0/72

nobody else plays consistently enough for their stats to matter.

If Miles plays very little or not at all:

32-50 - 11 seed
awards: Brandon Miller 1st team all-rookie (4th in ROY voting behind some order of Wemby, Scoot, Chet)
Clifford is canned by January

stats:
LaMelo: 24/6/8, 1.7 steals on 41/36/86 (I worry about another year of LaMelo being the unquestioned #1 scorer rather than one of several capable scorers reinforces bad habits we saw last year)
Terry: 22/4/5 on 41/35/80 (low shooting due to playing PG for half his minutes... again)
PJ: 16/7/2 on 43/35/72
Hayward: 18/5/4 on 46/37/82
Mark: 13/11, 1.8 blocks on 60/0/65
Miller: 13/6/4 on 39/38/83
Richards: 6/6/1 on 60/0/72
Thor: 5/4/1 on 40/37/70 (stats not much to write home about but looks more like a 3&D guy)


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You could convince me this is a 45-48 win roster if you could guarantee Bridges plays, and we had two more reliable role players, one at backup PG to push Terry off the ball, and another wing or forward for when Hayward is hurt. But we don't have those, so we're going to have a revolving door of horrible 9th-15th men getting rotation minutes for a large part of the season.

KingCat wrote:Melo: 25/6/9 65 games
Miles: 15/6/2 50 games
Terry: 17/4/3 78 games
PJ: 16/5/2 80 games
Hayward: 12/4/4 55 games
Mark: 14/11/1.5 blks 60 games
Miller: 8/4/1 78 games
Thor: 7/4/1 75 games


Miller is relegated to the corner by Cliff's offense and has a ho hum year for the most part, but has a bit of a break out in the last 15 games of the season averaging 16/6/2 on good splits during them

Have you watched any preseason or seen the highlights? Clifford is running plays for Miller to isolate, run off handoffs, run of pin downs. He is very much involved in the offense already. He isn't a stand in the corner type of player.

8 ppg would have been the 18th highest scoring rookie in the league last year.
That is basically saying he will be very bad if you compare to recent history.

If Miles plays 70 games - 45 wins, 6th seed
Miles not on the team - 35 wins, 10th seed

Melo, makes the real ASG - 24/9/5
Terry, 19/3/4
Hayward - 14/4/4
PJ - 14/8/2
Williams - 13/11/2 - young all star team
Miller - 12/5/5 - young all star team
Bridges - 17/6/4
Thor - 7/5/2
Richards - 8/7/2
Frank - 4/3/2

It comes down to 2 things. Do you believe in LaMelo? Do you believe in Steve Clifford.

For Me it is maybe, and no. LaMelo is talented for his age and super fun to watch. He averaged 23 pts on 20 fg attempts per game last year. That isn't good enough for us to go anywhere with him as the star. Clifford doesn't innovate, his rotations are terrible and he doesn't put guys in good match up situations.

37 wins

Miles Bridges never plays

Lamelo 21/9/7 (67 games played)
Rozier 20/5/4
Hayward 18/5/5 (52 games played which would match his best total in the last 4 years)
PJ Washington 15/6/4
Mark Williams 16/10/1.6 (60 games played)

B Miller 15/6/2
N Richards 13/9/1

Nick Richards wins most improved player after feasting in the games M Williams misses
Brandon Miller in top 5 of rookie of year voting but Wemby and Chet are way ahead of the pack

7-3.

wilson115 wrote:7-3.

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These game start times threw me for a loop.

Right in line with Fats:

With Miles 38 wins

Without Miles 32 wins

Melo needs to play a full season either way or else those numbers go down even more

We're gonna go 44-38 boys. Let's go!!!