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2024 Draft Prospect Thread 2 

Post#1 » by fatlever » Fri Jun 7, 2024 12:01 am

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Re: 2024 Draft Prospect Thread 2 

Post#2 » by Diop » Fri Jun 7, 2024 12:20 am

here me out. I'm 48 and overweight, but I think I can really bring something to that bench, enough to be considered a true prospect.

even if I just get drunk and heckle the opponents constantly.
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Post#3 » by JMAC3 » Fri Jun 7, 2024 2:45 pm

If you had to make a case against Knecht.. who I still think is a fun prospect this would be it.

Here is a list of all the guys that went top half of the first round since 2014 that were 22+ yrs old or seniors.

Agbaji
Davion
Duarte
Kispert
Cam Johnson
Justin Jackson
Kris Dunn
Buddy Hield
Tauren Prince
Denzel Valentine
Kaminsky
McDermott
Adrien Payne


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Post#4 » by JMAC3 » Fri Jun 7, 2024 2:50 pm

The two guys who you probably would want to say are the model breakers for him are Lillard and McCollum.

Lillard averaged 20 ppg as a sophomore in Big Sky.

McCollum averaged 19 ppg as a freshman at Lehigh


Knecht played 2 yrs of juco and then as a junior averaged 9 ppg in Big Sky conference. So a much later breakout age.
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Post#5 » by GoBobs » Fri Jun 7, 2024 3:27 pm

Maybe not being as young as some of the other guys limits his ceiling. His most likely is probably Buddy Hield, but his floor is also probably Buddy Hield.

There is a big sample size saying this guy can shoot. He hit 40% on 6.5 atempts from 3 last year while being the focal point of the offense. You know he can succeed as a catch and shoot guy, maybe even be more efficient if playing off the creation of another star.

His age is less of a factor because he has already learned the most usefully skill in the nba, at least on offense.

These younger guys like Holland, Castle, Sarr, Matas that teams are hoping will develop a shot are going to be useless guys on your bench until they do.
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Post#6 » by JMAC3 » Fri Jun 7, 2024 3:28 pm

GoBobs wrote:Maybe not being as young as some of the other guys limits his ceiling. His most likely is probably Buddy Hield, but his floor is also probably Buddy Hield.

There is a big sample size saying this guy can shoot. He hit 40% on 6.5 atempts from 3 last year while being the focal point of the offense. You know he can succeed as a catch and shoot guy, maybe even be more efficient if playing off the creation of another star.

His age is less of a factor because he has already learned the most usefully skill in the nba, at least on offense.

These younger guys like Holland, Castle, Sarr, Matas that teams are hoping will develop a shot are going to be useless guys on your bench until they do.


He very well could be, but out of those 13 guys Buddy was the best player probably. So it is hard to say that is the floor for Knecht, but idk. I am torn to be honest.

This draft feels like we are just betting on a lot of outliers and because of that some of these are going to look really really bad IMO.
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Post#7 » by LofJ » Fri Jun 7, 2024 3:36 pm

We have a lot of guys that can shoot on this roster (more is better of course). What we don't have is players that impact the game on both ends. Knect would be an awful draft selection for us.
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Post#8 » by GoBobs » Fri Jun 7, 2024 3:44 pm

LofJ wrote:We have a lot of guys that can shoot on this roster (more is better of course). What we don't have is players that impact the game on both ends. Knect would be an awful draft selection for us.


Okay, who is the two way player that we can pick?
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Post#9 » by GoBobs » Fri Jun 7, 2024 3:50 pm

This video explains why we should draft Edey



.... also explains why I drive a cement truck everywhere I go
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Re: 2024 Draft Prospect Thread 2 

Post#10 » by LofJ » Fri Jun 7, 2024 3:51 pm

GoBobs wrote:
LofJ wrote:We have a lot of guys that can shoot on this roster (more is better of course). What we don't have is players that impact the game on both ends. Knect would be an awful draft selection for us.


Okay, who is the two player that we can pick?


Castle, Holland, Buzelis, Williams, and Salaun all have more two-way upside than Knect. I'd prefer all of them over Knect.
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Post#11 » by GoBobs » Fri Jun 7, 2024 3:52 pm

There are going to be lots of colisions under the basket. There are going to be fouls both ways that don't get called. You need the bigger guys sometimes.

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Post#12 » by GoBobs » Fri Jun 7, 2024 4:40 pm

There is a reason that Cam Newton was a way better qb than RG3.

If you play a position where you get banged into a lot. It is a big, big advantage to be 300 lb.

Being 7'5'' is cool, that is what everybody see's.

Being 300 lb, with mobility, in a guy that plays physical, but doesn't foul, is what makes Edey a great prospect.
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Post#13 » by fatlever » Fri Jun 7, 2024 4:44 pm

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Re: 2024 Draft Prospect Thread 2 

Post#14 » by JustBuzzin » Fri Jun 7, 2024 5:03 pm

Been hearing Cody Williams connected to Charlotte a lot lately.

I think he's probably the guy they are eyeing. I just hope we trade back to get him maybe we can get another asset in return.

He kind of feels similar to Brandon Miller, although Miller was much more advanced as a player. They have similar body types and both can handle the ball decently.

I wouldn't be mad at either Cody or Knecht.
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Post#15 » by Snidely FC » Fri Jun 7, 2024 5:09 pm

For those who dont get ESPN+ here is the rest of the Knecht quote:
Knecht has positioned himself pretty firmly as a mid-lottery pick, drawing strong interest from Charlotte, Portland, San Antonio, Memphis and Utah in the Nos. 6-10 range. The reliability of his skill set as a legitimate scorer with positional size coming off an efficient season bodes well in the long run, dispelling most of the concerns about his advanced age for a lottery pick. He has the size, instincts and shooting ability that should translate effectively in an offense-driven NBA.

He can feasibly step into minutes and help a team improve next season and comes with some perception of untapped upside as a late-blooming prospect. -- Woo
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Post#16 » by Snidely FC » Fri Jun 7, 2024 5:09 pm

...and the Cody Williams quote
At this stage, Williams' range would appear to be among the widest of our projected lottery prospects. He has interest from teams in the top 10, including Detroit, Charlotte, Portland, San Antonio and Utah, but there are also teams picking outside the lottery that remain curious whether he might fall to them. Where he decides to work out in the next couple of weeks, and how those workouts go for him, will play a big determinant in the outcome of his draft selection.

Williams' combination of positional size, defensive upside and relatively untapped offensive game makes him an intriguing developmental investment for teams. His best flashes during the season have helped keep him front of mind for teams as a lottery option. -- Woo
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Post#17 » by LofJ » Fri Jun 7, 2024 5:12 pm

Cody Williams is a player that could be A LOT better in a few years than he is now. He is a twig right now, if/when he gets stronger his length and ability to get to the basket and finish could make him a really, really good player. If he gets on whatever strength training regimen OKC put his brother on I feel good about him getting there.

He has to get a lot stronger though because right now he doesn't have NBA athleticism.
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Post#18 » by Bassman » Fri Jun 7, 2024 5:40 pm

Snidely FC wrote:For those who dont get ESPN+ here is the rest of the Knecht quote:
Knecht has positioned himself pretty firmly as a mid-lottery pick, drawing strong interest from Charlotte, Portland, San Antonio, Memphis and Utah in the Nos. 6-10 range. The reliability of his skill set as a legitimate scorer with positional size coming off an efficient season bodes well in the long run, dispelling most of the concerns about his advanced age for a lottery pick. He has the size, instincts and shooting ability that should translate effectively in an offense-driven NBA.

He can feasibly step into minutes and help a team improve next season and comes with some perception of untapped upside as a late-blooming prospect. -- Woo


I really like Knecht. He appears to be a classic case of late developer, as he grew his final 3 inches of height as a JUCO player. It physically takes time to catch up to that type of spurt. Very good athlete, really good shooter and finisher, decent handle and OK passer. Question is his defense; can he improve enough to become a solid defender at the league level?

As for Cody Williams, he may be a bigger risk/reward swing. Can he put enough strength onto that frame to compete? His game is slow compared to the league…don’t like his pacing. While Knecht’s ceiling might be limited, his floor is solid. Not sure Cody can stay on the court without significant improvement.
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Re: 2024 Draft Prospect Thread 2 

Post#19 » by Rich4114 » Fri Jun 7, 2024 6:44 pm

I’m really intrigued by Knecht lately. He’d be a nice fit at that F spot, giving us more shooting and size in the way we hoped someone like Thor or PJ would’ve given us. He’s obviously a way better shooter than both of them. Does he rebound and can he keep his man in front? Are there any prospects in this draft who can do that but don’t suck offensively?
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Post#20 » by JustBuzzin » Fri Jun 7, 2024 6:57 pm

Rich4114 wrote:I’m really intrigued by Knecht lately. He’d be a nice fit at that F spot, giving us more shooting and size in the way we hoped someone like Thor or PJ would’ve given us. He’s obviously a way better shooter than both of them. Does he rebound and can he keep his man in front? Are there any prospects in this draft who can do that but don’t suck offensively?

I have no concerns with Knecht offensively. I feel in the right situation he will probably lead all rookies in scoring. He's the best scorer in this draft and the most pro ready.

My concern is his age and defense. He's pretty much a cone on defense. Looking at our roster who is going to play perimeter defense when your 3 perimeter guys are Melo/Knecht/Miller?


That's my only concerns with Knecht. His offense will help from day 1 though.

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