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Hornets 2nd 10 Games (2-8)

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 12:47 pm
by yosemiteben
Second 10 games on the schedule:

(1) 11/12 - @ ORL (Cup Game) - L 89-114
(2) 11/16 - MIL - W 115-114
(3) 11/17 - @ CLE - L 114-128
(4) 11/19 - @ BRK (Cup Game) - L 116-115
(5) 11/21 - DET - W 123-121
(6) 11/23 - @ MIL - L 125-119
(7) 11/25 - ORL
(8) 11/27 - MIA
(9) 11/29 - NYK (Cup Game)
(10) 11/30 - ATL

Lots of winnable games in this stretch, the only one that looks like a guaranteed loss is 11/17 against CLE on the road on the back end of a B2B. Really would like to see us go 6-4 or better during this stretch. Predicting .500 again.

Re: Hornets 2nd 10 Games

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 3:20 pm
by EmpireFalls
3-7 incoming. Giannis will go for 40-20 on us, we have absolutely zero rim protection, and I think the Pistons will be better prepared for us as well.

Could see wins vs. BKN, injured Orlando, and ATL.

Re: Hornets 2nd 10 Games

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 5:48 pm
by fatlever
Predicting another 3-7 stretch. I don't have much faith in this offense at the moment.

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Re: Hornets 2nd 10 Games

Posted: Tue Nov 12, 2024 6:32 pm
by JMAC3
With the amount of injuries happening in the NBA daily, really hard to predict this far in advance.

Re: Hornets 2nd 10 Games

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 3:03 am
by KingCat
Haven't been able to tune into this season till the last few games. From the looks of things, everything looks the exact same as last season, except Melo is healthy and isn't starting the season in a slump, right? Today was painful to watch.

Re: Hornets 2nd 10 Games

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 5:57 am
by HornetJail
I missed this prior to the ORL game, which I would've marked down as an L anyway.

But I'm gonna say 3-7 with wins over DET and BRK, and we steal one of the 17th to 20th games by virtue of just getting hotter from 3. Wouldn't be surprised with 4-6 or even 5-5 if Melo stays as hot as he's been, but we're basically relying on him being an MVP candidate level offensive player to squeeze out wins against mediocre to bad teams.

I hope Mark will at least be close to a return by the end of this stretch

Re: Hornets 2nd 10 Games

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 2:24 pm
by EmpireFalls
1-9 is my new prediction.

Re: Hornets 2nd 10 Games

Posted: Wed Nov 13, 2024 4:54 pm
by KembaWalker
that Cavs game is gonna be hilarious

LaMelo 45/6/6 piece incoming
final score Cavs 145 - 78 Hornets

Re: Hornets 2nd 10 Games

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 6:54 pm
by fatlever
melo last 5 games
14.4 3pa at 32%
8.2 pull up 3s at 25
on 0 or 1 dribble he is at 44% on 7.6 3pa; 43% on 6 catch and shoot
2 or more is 18% on 6.8 3pa


miller
11.2 at 30

combined
25 at 31

Re: Hornets 2nd 10 Games

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:47 pm
by Rich4114
Checking this out late, but the first two games are the opposite of what I would've guessed.

(1) 11/12 - @ ORL (Cup Game) - L
(2) 11/16 - MIL - W
(3) 11/17 - @ CLE - L
(4) 11/19 - @ BRK (Cup Game) - Must W
(5) 11/21 - DET - Home, need to W
(6) 11/23 - @ MIL - Definitely L
(7) 11/25 - ORL - Revenge but L unless we get a big back
(8) 11/27 - MIA - Should've won the first one, W
(9) 11/29 - NYK (Cup Game) - L will get cooked by KAT
(10) 11/30 - ATL - W

Overall, .500 ball and that should be considered a success

Re: Hornets 2nd 10 Games

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:49 pm
by Rich4114
fatlever wrote:melo last 5 games
14.4 3pa at 32%
8.2 pull up 3s at 25
on 0 or 1 dribble he is at 44% on 7.6 3pa; 43% on 6 catch and shoot
2 or more is 18% on 6.8 3pa


miller
11.2 at 30

combined
25 at 31


His efficiency is dropping because our offense has been trash. We don't have anyone to set screens, there's a lot of standing around and nobody outside of LaMelo can facilitate. Having Mann out 2 games + the end of the Philly game has also hurt. Problem is, even if we got Nick back he can't set screens either. We don't even know if Mark can be a reliable screen setter so our offense is going to need to have to find a way to adjust to something more fast paced/transition oriented.

Re: Hornets 2nd 10 Games

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 7:57 pm
by fatlever
Rich4114 wrote:
fatlever wrote:melo last 5 games
14.4 3pa at 32%
8.2 pull up 3s at 25
on 0 or 1 dribble he is at 44% on 7.6 3pa; 43% on 6 catch and shoot
2 or more is 18% on 6.8 3pa


miller
11.2 at 30

combined
25 at 31


His efficiency is dropping because our offense has been trash. We don't have anyone to set screens, there's a lot of standing around and nobody outside of LaMelo can facilitate. Having Mann out 2 games + the end of the Philly game has also hurt. Problem is, even if we got Nick back he can't set screens either. We don't even know if Mark can be a reliable screen setter so our offense is going to need to have to find a way to adjust to something more fast paced/transition oriented.


melo isn't blameless. he's taken some horrific 3s recently. i dont care if he shoots 30 times or 15 3s, but good shots are always better than bad shots. its on melo to tone down the bad shots. its on lee to help him get better shots.

Re: Hornets 2nd 10 Games

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 8:02 pm
by fatlever
same for miller
miller needs to cut out the bad 3s. lee needs to get him shots in better spots. we need to get miller to the ft line

Re: Hornets 2nd 10 Games (1-2)

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 9:38 pm
by yosemiteben
We gave up 114 points to both ORL and MIL, then scored 114 against CLE.

There's some hidden meaning in there.

Re: Hornets 2nd 10 Games (1-2)

Posted: Mon Nov 18, 2024 10:00 pm
by fatlever
Sometimes ai is so hilariously dumb that it makes me realize how far we have to go before they become our overlords I asked Claude to find hidden meaning with the number 114 as it relates to the Charlotte Hornets Here's the nonsense it provided.

Let me explore potential connections involving the number 114 with Charlotte, the Hornets, and basketball, though I should note I'll need to be careful in drawing conclusions.
Some potential connections I can identify:

- In basketball terms, 114 points would actually be a fairly typical NBA final score. During the 2023-24 season, the Charlotte Hornets have averaged around 108 points per game, so 114 would represent a slightly above-average scoring night for them.
- Charlotte was incorporated as a city in 1768, which was 114 years before the important Civil War battle fought there, the Battle of Charlotte in 1882.
- The Charlotte Coliseum, the Hornets' original home arena, was located at 100 Paul Buck Boulevard, which is near Interstate 114 (though I should note you should verify this interstate number as I could be mistaken).
- While not exactly 114, the original Charlotte Hornets played their first NBA game in 1988, which was 114 years after the first professional baseball team was established in Charlotte (1874).

Given the somewhat speculative nature of these connections, I'd encourage you to verify any specific claims. Is there a particular aspect of the number 114 in relation to Charlotte that you're interested in exploring further?


The 1882 battle of Charlotte Lol. Interstate 114, I hope that interstate Has less traffic than 485. Gotta love that old professional Charlotte basketball team from 1874.

Re: Hornets 2nd 10 Games (1-2)

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 5:35 am
by HornetJail
yosemiteben wrote:We gave up 114 points to both ORL and MIL, then scored 114 against CLE.

There's some hidden meaning in there.

LaMelo is scoring 114 points in a game this season

Re: Hornets 2nd 10 Games

Posted: Tue Nov 19, 2024 6:14 am
by Liver_Pooty
Rich4114 wrote:
fatlever wrote:melo last 5 games
14.4 3pa at 32%
8.2 pull up 3s at 25
on 0 or 1 dribble he is at 44% on 7.6 3pa; 43% on 6 catch and shoot
2 or more is 18% on 6.8 3pa


miller
11.2 at 30

combined
25 at 31


His efficiency is dropping because our offense has been trash. We don't have anyone to set screens, there's a lot of standing around and nobody outside of LaMelo can facilitate. Having Mann out 2 games + the end of the Philly game has also hurt. Problem is, even if we got Nick back he can't set screens either. We don't even know if Mark can be a reliable screen setter so our offense is going to need to have to find a way to adjust to something more fast paced/transition oriented.


We literally don't have a reliable scorer outside Lamelo right now. Miller is struggling and yea Miles Martin and Green can contribute, but rookie Miller right now would be ideal

Re: Hornets 2nd 10 Games (1-2)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 6:55 pm
by JMAC3
If you block out the noise of guys that aren't playing enough mins... here is how Hornets main guys look in Def Rating.

Moussa 96.5
Martin 107.1
Tidjan 110.3
Miller 113.4
Grant 113.4
Curry 113.8
Tre 114.2
LaMelo 115.1
Miles 120.2
Josh Green 122.8

Kind of crazy Green ranks as worst defender in this category despite being visually at times our best defender. Could be sample size but also something to note.

Re: Hornets 2nd 10 Games (1-2)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 8:52 pm
by fatlever
The on off numbers and net ratings and defensive ratings for Diabate have been quite eye popping. At what point do we get past the small sample size with him and really consider the impact he's having. And at what point does coach start giving him more minutes to see if it's sustainable or something that can only be maintained in limited minutes. From an eye test point of view he looks much better defensively than Nick Richards. Positioning is better as perimeter defense and pick and roll defense is better. He has better timing on shot blocking. He's a better pound for pound rebounder. And he seems to be improving daily on his decision making and finishing around the rim. But again I'm trying to be cautiously optimistic and consider that it's still potentially just small sample sizes playing against backups and playing an only limited spurts.

Re: Hornets 2nd 10 Games (1-2)

Posted: Thu Nov 21, 2024 9:00 pm
by KembaWalker
Diabates minutes dropping out of nowhere for no reason after the Milwaukee win is just another bone I have to pick with Chucky