Okie Dokie Josh Okogie

[fatlever]

https://www.basketball-reference.com/players/o/okogijo01.html

he can't shoot. he'll fit right in.

[SWedd523]

initial reaction is we traded the better player and the better pick so clear loss but whatever

[Bassman]

initial reaction is we traded the better player and the better pick so clear loss but whatever

Yep, another underwhelming Peterson move IMO. At this point I expect nothing of substance coming to help this squad.

[yosemiteben]

initial reaction is we traded the better player and the better pick so clear loss but whatever

The better pick?

[Benjamin Linus]

I can't imagine this guy getting minutes unless there's another trade in the works

Diabate, Salaun, Green, Okogie, Martin, Micic

So many players who are a negative on offense. This is why we suck

[JustBuzzin]

initial reaction is we traded the better player and the better pick so clear loss but whatever

This is exactly what happened. This was a bad trade, but luckily it was just for a role player.

[GiggitySmalls]

I can't imagine this guy getting minutes unless there's another trade in the works

Diabate, Salaun, Green, Okogie, Martin, Micic

So many players who are a negative on offense. This is why we suck

All except diabate need go.

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[JustBuzzin]

I can't imagine this guy getting minutes unless there's another trade in the works

Diabate, Salaun, Green, Okogie, Martin, Micic

So many players who are a negative on offense. This is why we suck

We have a bad mix of role players. That needs to change for us to have success. We have 3 good building blocks it's up to the GM to put quality role players around them.

[SWedd523]

initial reaction is we traded the better player and the better pick so clear loss but whatever

The better pick?

I didn't see that we were sending the Nuggets pick.

I'll revise it to trading the better player and the picks are low enough to might as well be cash considerations so still a pretty easy loss

[yosemiteben]

initial reaction is we traded the better player and the better pick so clear loss but whatever

This is exactly what happened. This was a bad trade, but luckily it was just for a role player.

Like did y'all just not wait for the details to react or do you legit think the Nuggets are going to be worse this season than they will when Jokic is like 36?

[yosemiteben]

initial reaction is we traded the better player and the better pick so clear loss but whatever

The better pick?

I didn't see that we were sending the Nuggets pick.

I'll revise it to trading the better player and the picks are low enough to might as well be cash considerations so still a pretty easy loss

The picks are in the future, for two teams who are aging and one of which has no real way to improve because they've traded all their assets.

Also with the second apron rules 2nd round picks are much more valuable.

Strongly disagree that we might as well have taken cash, this is how you actually manufacture assets that may have value. Kind of like the 2nd for this year that we bet on that initially seemed like it might not have a ton of value until PHI forgot to show up.

[SWedd523]

Like I do not give half a **** about picks 50 and later. those are sold for peanuts every single draft so they hold no value to me whatsoever. Likelihood that any of those picks become a player on Nick's or even Okogie's level is very small.

Now we have no Center depth with a Mark injury away from a 50 year old and two way contract guy playing full NBA games while loading up on yet another Martin/Green copy.

Unless they have some 4D chess move planned, this seems like a pretty cut and dry loss

[yosemiteben]

Like I do not give half a **** about picks 50 and later.

Well I have good news for you - we traded a pick that almost certainly would be there for two from likely rebuilding teams.

[JustBuzzin]

Like I do not give half a **** about picks 50 and later.

Well I have good news for you - we traded a pick that almost certainly would be there for two from likely rebuilding teams.

2nd Rd picks from rebuilding teams are supposed to mean something?

It's only 2 rounds in the NBA draft. The likelihood we get a starter with those picks are extremely low.

I'm more upset we couldn't get a meaningful rotation player. Say what you want about Richards but he had value around the league. Seems like we settled.

PHX got a starter we didn't. We loss this trade imo.

[MasterIchiro]

We swapped Nuggets 2025 at 54 for Nuggets 2026 which can't be much worse, probably a wash within a range of 6 slots.

We traded Nick Richards on an option for next year for Okogie unguaranteed for next year. So we are not stuck with Okogie. We can now move Martin and survive injuries as we tank out the year. Okogie is a warm body.

And we added 2 distant second round picks owed by old rosters.

We could spare pick 54 in 2025 because we also control picks 32 and 33. Only so many roster spots and 2-way spots.

It's not a HR deal but at least we drop Nick Richards who was toxic. He led the NBA in moving screen fouls. That is the great deflator of a possession.

Peterson needs a stretch big at this point. Plenty of candidates out there who can compete with Diabaté for minutes. Plenty of resources to acquire one.

[SWedd523]

Like I do not give half a **** about picks 50 and later.

Well I have good news for you - we traded a pick that almost certainly would be there for two from likely rebuilding teams.

(maybe)

Denver has won 45+ game in each of the last 7 years with an 8th likely on the way

Phoenix at 45+ over the past 4 with a good chance they'll make it 5.

I'm never betting against Jokic and Booker is only 28. Far more likely they flip Beal and Durant and head into a quick retool than they turn into a dumpster fire.

[HornetJail]

Like I do not give half a **** about picks 50 and later.

Well I have good news for you - we traded a pick that almost certainly would be there for two from likely rebuilding teams.

(maybe)

Denver has won 45+ game in each of the last 7 years with an 8th likely on the way

Phoenix at 45+ over the past 4 with a good chance they'll make it 5.

I'm never betting against Jokic and Booker is only 28. Far more likely they flip Beal and Durant and head into a quick retool than they turn into a dumpster fire.

you know those picks are 6.5 years away right? and that neither team has any assets to improve their teams for the foreseeable future to extend their windows? Both teams are headed to pretty long and difficult rebuilds when their windows eventually close 2-3 years from now

[MasterIchiro]

Well I have good news for you - we traded a pick that almost certainly would be there for two from likely rebuilding teams.

(maybe)

Denver has won 45+ game in each of the last 7 years with an 8th likely on the way

Phoenix at 45+ over the past 4 with a good chance they'll make it 5.

I'm never betting against Jokic and Booker is only 28. Far more likely they flip Beal and Durant and head into a quick retool than they turn into a dumpster fire.

you know those picks are 6.5 years away right? and that neither team has any assets to improve their teams for the foreseeable future to extend their windows? Both teams are headed to pretty long and difficult rebuilds when their windows eventually close 2-3 years from now

The Suns especially have hit a wall. Their 2025 second sits at 40. All uphill from here. And we can trade it next year or two years from now when their position is even worse. We don't have to wait for them to retool before we leverage the asset.

It's a fine trade. I'm so happy I don't have to watch Nick. Couldn't stomach him since last year. Hate how he makes such terrible mistakes then whines and pouts. He takes himself out of the game because he cries so much. He sulks. He's like Embiid but not as demonstrative.

[HornetJail]

my main point is that I would have valued Richards at a single pick in the 35-45 range. The hope is we got two of them but have to wait a while to get them. Hard not to be happy with that.

[SWedd523]

Yeah I don't agree with that at all.

We aren't talking about the Hornets here. Teams are generally able to go from good team to good team within a 7 year span, especially when they flip stars for picks for stars over and over again.

Flip Durant and Beal for picks within the next year or so and they're suddenly able to turn those picks into a star to play next to Booker or a guy to sign in FA.

The fact that we're trying to call it a good trade by rationalizing second round picks 6 years from now is a fun thought exercise though lol