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I'm a huge J-Rich fan and I was upset when he was struggling earlier this season. But man, these last five games.....he has been on a tear, posting All-Star caliber numbers.


Last five games.

28.4 PPG
4.8 RPG
2.4 APG
52.1 FG%
85.7 FT%
52.6 3FG%

he and wallace have really been playing great the last two weeks.

Wallace has been coming really close to a triple-double a few times lately as well. It would help this team out a lot if he can become a creator for other players, because we don't have too many guys like that now.

23/8/11
23/7/7
32/8/9

I never pegged him as our first guy to get a triple-double, because he never seemed the type to be able to rack up 10 assists, but he's come close lately.

After not seeing the team in over a month, it was refreshing to see JRich's work rate last night. Not that he was a slouch in Nov, but he was really working hard off the ball last night.

I especially liked the base line weak side cut that resulted in an easy reverse lay up and basket.

He has a pretty high ball IQ IMO. We just need everyone to catch up with him. I think having him around is improving Crash's BBIQ and he's not as much of a black hole any more.

All in all, JRich is doing just what we hoped he would when we brought him in.

Its pleasing to see JRich string together some good games it appears as if he is fully settled in with the other players. Now all we need is consistancy from the likes of Mek and Felton

I am happy to see J-Rich getting those numbers, but I also would like to see these numbers lead to wins......Go J-Rich

Bowens wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

Ok now you're all over the place.

First you're telling us JRich has been outstanding, and now you're searching for excuses why he's disappeared late in games. Come on gramps, you can do better than that.

And if you watched the Pacers game, Crash completely took over midway through the 4th and overtime. Oh wait, I do remember JRich getting involved on one play when he made a nice pass.


*waits for next round of misdirection from grandpa spectre*

*hearing through the grapevine, grandpa intends to put up stats showing JRich's outstanding 4 quarter numbers during his freshman year of high school*

Hmmm, how about this:

And while Richardson admitted he was sore, suffering from a headache and experiencing some blurred vision, staying in the game and helping the Bobcats to a 107-103 overtime victory justified his temporary discomfort.

My point wasn't that he'd helped, but that he came out and gave effort even though his face was swollen and his vision was blurred. IMO that showed HEART...this should preclude him from any complaints about "disappearing" in the 4th. Up until then he'd played a pretty darn good game and he came back regardless of the injury to do whatever he could to help his mates.

You keep blasting him about defense...no one is playing team D with any semblance of a plan most of the time. Jason has NEVER been considered a good defender and no one should expect one. When we're beat and everyone is trying to compensate he's not going to recover like Crash or Felton would...he's just not as fast laterally. This is not going to change. When the team works as a unit it doesn't happen as often...get that going consistently and we cover individual weaknesses a lot better.

What we can look from JRich is effort on D and excelling in the things he can do...like shoot a high %, rebound and block an occasional shot. Without his shooting (especially in the last 8 games) we wouldn't have been in any position to sniff a victory.

Just like with Ammo...if you expect a Larry Bird clone you are sure to be continually disappointed. You have to realize what's there and what's possible. Not doing more isn't on him, it's on you.

If only I'd just quoted the next two posts behind mine...

I haven't caught many Bobcat games, but from the stat-lines it appears you only have two players. How come Okafor is not getting offensive touches?

crzyyafrican wrote:I haven't caught many Bobcat games, but from the stat-lines it appears you only have two players. How come Okafor is not getting offensive touches?

This is a question that should be asked in one of the many, many Okador threads.

This is a thread about JRich.

spectre_ wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



My point wasn't that he'd helped, but that he came out and gave effort even though his face was swollen and his vision was blurred. IMO that showed HEART...this should preclude him from any complaints about "disappearing" in the 4th. Up until then he'd played a pretty darn good game and he came back regardless of the injury to do whatever he could to help his mates.

You keep blasting him about defense...no one is playing team D with any semblance of a plan most of the time. Jason has NEVER been considered a good defender and no one should expect one. When we're beat and everyone is trying to compensate he's not going to recover like Crash or Felton would...he's just not as fast laterally. This is not going to change. When the team works as a unit it doesn't happen as often...get that going consistently and we cover individual weaknesses a lot better.

What we can look from JRich is effort on D and excelling in the things he can do...like shoot a high %, rebound and block an occasional shot. Without his shooting (especially in the last 8 games) we wouldn't have been in any position to sniff a victory.

Just like with Ammo...if you expect a Larry Bird clone you are sure to be continually disappointed. You have to realize what's there and what's possible. Not doing more isn't on him, it's on you.

If only I'd just quoted the next two posts behind mine...

I know what your point was. But that is just one game, there have been many games where he's disappeared for long stretches.

Also, someone cannot be considered "outstanding" when their knocking down shots, while being horrid on the other end. Defensively in the Bulls game, he was getting beat constantly by Gordon which led to many easy baskets from not only Gordon, but the Bulls big men too.

Tonight he was raining jump shots, but letting VC score at will. Point being, for all the good JRich does shooting the ball, he gives it up on defense AND A WHOLE LOT MORE.

Another thing that bothers me about him, a lot of times he stands still on defense with his back to the opposing team as the shot goes up and he's boxing out nobody. When the shot is missed, JRich is standing flat footed as opposing player does cartwheels and backflips over him and easily slams the ball home. Happens at least 5 times every game. Bulls game it must have happened at least 10 times. lordy lordy. Just watch and see what I'm talking about.

Now you can blame everyone else for their poor defense which is definitely fair, however last I checked, nobody else on our team is making 13 million dollars a season. And for that amount of money, I expect good all around play. I expect leadership and someone who brings it every game. Someone who doesn't disappear and stand still while staring into space when the shots goes up.

Also I have a problem with you criticizing me for getting on individual players. Unless it's ALL Sam Vincents fault, (which is I seriously doubt) then the players need to be accountable too. This is the NBA, not college and they get paid a FORTUNE of money to play to the best of their abilities and WIN games. Are we winning games? Uh no. So whats your problem with me? I mean God forbid I get on JRich, "Mr. 13 million dollar man" for not being able to get in front of his man and at least slow him down! You know, so Mek can rotate over and prevent another easy basket.

I really do not like fans like you. Nothing personal, but it's fans like you who make it easy on ownership to do nothing. To sit tight and let a crappy team skate by. To hire an unproven NBA coach because fans like you are very patient and are just happy to have a team. You are Bob Johnson's ideal fan cause you never criticize the team. Listening to you, you'd think we were 10 games over .500. Whatever. Have fun watching a loser for the next 10 years.

Bowens wrote:Also I have a problem with you criticizing me for getting on individual players.

Heh, I wasn't the one that labeled you the board's "hater", tho I certainly agree with it. You must have a problem with a lot of people on this boad. What was the quote in the gameball thread?

"How can anyone give JRich the gold hammer when he missed 16 shots (one more than Crash took for the entire game) and let VC drop 30 on him?"

Doesn't appear that you're in the majority...or even consititute a "group".

Bowens wrote:I really do not like fans like you.

The feeling's mutual.

Tonight he was raining jump shots, but letting VC score at will. Point being, for all the good JRich does shooting the ball, he gives it up on defense AND A WHOLE LOT MORE.

I share your frustration with the team but it is preposterous to fault Richardson for these losses.

I was also one of the first people to call him out for his mediocre play after the first month in the season because he wasnt living up to expectations.

http://wwww.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=740474

Since that time, he has really taken his game to another level and I have very little to complain about.

This is someone who over the last 5 games is averaging 29.6 pts per game on over 50% shooting to go along with 5.8 rebounds and nearly 3 assists. Over this span, it is evident that he has really spent some extra time on his foul shooting which has never been one of his strong points: He's shooting 87% from the line. the only real criticism i can make is that he needs to cut back on the silly fouls.

As for his defense, sure it could be better. But, as of late, that can apply to almost everyone on the team. We knew when we acquired richardson that he was no lockdown defender but he is nowhere close to being as inept as you make him out to be.

Vince Carter routinely has 30 point games on everybody. Plus, several of his and jefferson's buckets came on matches against mcinnis while richardson was at the three and SV foolishly continued to play felton and mcinnis together at 1-2.

If you could have played any other shooting guard since the Bobcat's inception against Carter, in all likelihood, Vince would have still had 30 points or more. The only difference is whichever shooting guard you chose most certainly would not have scored 33 points and single-handedly carried the team offensively for stints.

Vince Carter's defense has always been one of his mediocre points also and he is making 2 million more than richardson this year.

We lost to NJ for alot of reasons (out coached, too many turn overs, crazy ass lineups by vincent, triple double from one of the top 3 point guards in the game) but by and large, richardson was not one of them. Had Jrich not played tonight and we had carroll and anderson in his place, instead of a 6 point loss, it would have been an unmitigated blowout.

spectre_ wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



The feeling's mutual.

Ahhh the irony in you having a cheerleader as your avatar. Speaks volumes.

Got pom-poms?

that's not just a "cheerleader", that is natasha.

Bowens wrote:-= original quote snipped =-



Ahhh the irony in you having a cheerleader as your avatar. Speaks volumes.

Got pom-poms?

Your attempts at humor are almost as good as your player critique. Try working on comedy instead...who knows, you might actually become competent in that one day.

Fats...he's not going to "get" Natasha just like he hasn't "gotten" anything else yet. Just another poor individual who has to resort to insults when all else fails. He sees what he sees and is always caught by surprise when everyone else disagrees with him.

Kinda sad really.

I'm sorry Bowen...I take it back. I really do like you...truly!

u dont know shiet bowens....

spectre_ wrote:-= original quote snipped =-





Your attempts at humor are almost as good as your player critique. Try working on comedy instead...who knows, you might actually become competent in that one day.

Fats...he's not going to "get" Natasha just like he hasn't "gotten" anything else yet. Just another poor individual who has to resort to insults when all else fails. He sees what he sees and is always caught by surprise when everyone else disagrees with him.

Kinda sad really.

I'm sorry Bowen...I take it back. I really do like you...truly!

Wait hold on, YOU and your little pom-pom waiving "minions" have been attacking me and anyone who dares to criticize the players. I'm curious as to how much Bob Johnson's been paying you cause whatever it is, it ain't nearly enough. Your unconditional love for Bobcats in the toilet bowl is truly remarkable.

So you can continue attacking and criticizing anyone you disagree with, but it's not going to stop me from holding our players accountable. If all the fans were like you, our building would be sold out every night. It's not, because the fans here aren't idiots and they won't pay for garbage.

And, if you want to continue earning that Bobby J paycheck, you need to round up more SUCKERS who think the way you do. Apparently...you're not doing a very good job.

he he

Score one for A-C-C-O-U-T-A-B-I-L-I-T-Y

gswforlife wrote:u dont know shiet bowens....

awww how cute, a Warriors fan who prefers to live in the past and not let go of mediocrity. awwww

u criticize players but you dont watch the game nuff said...

can we get this thread back on track.... jrich.