Is Sam staying?

[SamBone]

Haven't read anything about our loser coach. I saw a couple odd player quotes, but the papers didn't say anything. Is Sam staying or going? I heard a few firings and nothing from our team!

[W_HAMILTON]

They will probably take a bit to take everything in and evaluate him, then make an announcement one way or the other.

The fact that he didn't get swept up in the wave of initial firings leads me to believe they will either retain him, or are in some negotiations as to what the future holds, ie, see if he would prefer to resign gracefully, or whether or not they keep him depends on if they have another coach in the wings (maybe someone like Larry Brown), etc.

We'll have to wait and see.

[BigSlam]

If they do go in another direction with a coach, I sure hope they don't do what they did last year and wait months before they appoint somone killing the chance of us landing a high quality coach because all the "good guys" have already been locked up.

Besides, I want a new head coach in as quick as possible to hopefully try and earn some of EO50's trust and help with negotiating his new deal as well as help with the draft process and talk with the players and let them know what he expects of them when they come back from thier summer.

I've always felt they didn't spring into action nearly quick enough with the appointment last year.

In saying that, my money is on Sam being our head coach next season.

[TheBobcatDan]

This is exactly what I feared! Finishing the last two months of the year with a winning record might keep that moron here! Ugh!

[Rich4114]

I'm sure he'll be here next season. But what if the rumors of Sam Mitchell getting fired are true? You gotta believe Bernie would be pushing Jordan to swap coaches then.

I think the bigger question is if we do keep Vincent, will he learn from his mistakes and then stick to his word? If I were in control this clown would've never been hired, but unfortunately we've got a bunch of ass hat's running the show which means he'll be back and we risk having another under achieving season.

[Walt Cronkite]

so we root for an Orlando sweep?

[amcoolio]

This wait scares me. Either Michael is lazy and not on the ball, or they are really bringing back this clown. We'll have an open revolt and the players will stage a sit-in if Vincent is back for next season.

Larry Brown is sitting there, antsy for this job. I cannot believe this.

Then again, in the perfect offseason thread, Vincent will resign tomorrow. If it happens, then I should be proclaimed "Prophet of the Bobcats".

[August Us Seazr]

The front office may be anxious to be playoff bound next year, but it seems that pulling the trigger is not something that most of the powers that be are comfortable with. My opinion: if you HAVE to think and re-think what you are doing, you have a real problem when it comes to building a team. Any architect worth his salt recognizes when x material is incompatible with the building he has designed. Such should be the Bobcat GM's recognition. He who hestitates is lost. Such was last off season and just look at the results. We Bobcat fans have no free agents won last year, massive holes in at least two prominent positions, a rookie coach charged with and failing to make the playoffs, a team that bonds together at the end to win IN SPITE OF the coach, our "face of the franchise" having a deplorable contract year, need I continue?

Front office should get a plan and implement it. Empty seats in the arena will be the price for neglecting this duty.

Claw on true Bobcats Fans!

[fatlever]

i think its time that everyone here starts getting used to the idea that sam will be our coach next season, albeit on a short leash.

[Battery]

Although Sam should never have been hired, I put most of the blame on Okafor and Felton. You could even throw Carroll in the mix. Those 3 didn't show up to start this season ready to play and that sent us into a tailspin. Okafor was a whiny bitch for most of the season and Ray looked like he was playing scared until he finally woke up, of course too late to save the season. And the entire team did not put forth the effort on defense. Blame the players first.

[chrbal]

I blame just about everyone.

Team needs more experienced players, that can actually still play. Anderson and Harrington combined to play 50 games.

Jeff played all right while he was here, but he was a settle guy. That and he played way too much (pretty much the Bobcats equivalent to the Knicks using Quentin Richardson 65 games this season).

Coaching staff needed just more. Phil Ford is OK, but; Capel was a holdover, Mokeski (i think) was a 1st timer, and so on.

The Pistons Flip Saunders has former head coaches Terry Porter and Dave Cowens on his staff.

The managment handed away two expirings to get Mohammed. Mind you, Nazrs a good fit...but that was just a bad move. Not to mention, they needed other moves and hardly did anything. Unless you count forcing Sam to stop using Jeff by waiving Jeff and then signing Earl Boykins.

[amcoolio]

I believe the playing of McInnis had more to do that we had no PF on the roster that was ready to play. Playing McInnis allowed everyone to slide down so that Wallace can play PF. That resulted in playing an extra guard - It was either McInnis or Carroll - and for some reason, Sam didn't like Carroll that much or didn't see the use in playing him.

[chrbal]

I guess. See but my problem is that it was known that Sean May was going to need time, regardless. The teams one real add to the frontcourt was Davidson.

They keep putting themselves in posistions where they eventually get screwed because they never prepare.

[Rich4114]

Sam's inconsistancies with his rotations, brain farts during critical moments of games, not calling timeouts when the other team was on a run, and using all of our timeouts with like 2 mins remaining are some of the main reasons why he sucks. Not to mention using guys in the wrong positions and then taking guys out of games as soon as they get hot. How many times did we see Okafor or Felton start playing really well and then Ice Man Sam Vincent replaces them with a bench player and they come back 10 mins of playing time later?

The assistant staff absolutely does not help. What is Capel doing here still? How about that big clown who used to be on the Bucks? I honestly think we would've been better off with JB Bickerstaff eventhough he was a bit young and immature yet. But any good coach has a good assistant staff around them. Silas was practically begging for a job, he would've been a great assistant to help this team learn how to rebound and play some D. You could solve it all by bringing Larry Brown or Rick Carlisle in and just let them assemble the staff. I just don't get it, I don't understand why we have the NBDL attitude towards everything. They made one awesome trade (the J-Rich trade) and have done nothing else to try and win.

I personally would love to see them make a coaching change, but I agree with Fats, we better get used to Sam Vincent at least for one more year. Who knows, maybe he learns from these mistakes and impresses us. Problem is that's a big IF and an even bigger risk, I'm not so sure it's wise to risk another losing or non-playoff season for the fickle fan base of Charlotte. You want to put pepople in the seats and gain corporate sponsors? Then put a winning product on the court, listen to the public, and most of all stop cutting corners.

Bob Johnson likes to complain about lack of corporate sponsorship and what not, and I agree that Charlotte hasn't done a whole lot beyond actually putting the arena there - but it's not like NYC or LA or Chicago where no matter what you're gonna fill the place up. It used to be that way, but people in Charlotte expect to win and if their team isn't winning then they don't come to support them. It's actually similar to Philadelphia now (minus the lack of class of course). The organization needs to understand this and just make the right moves to get us to where we need to be. Maybe that involves making a big trade, but something as simple as putting a good proven coach in place should be a given and instead we went NBDL.....

[chrbal]

The assistant staff absolutely does not help. What is Capel doing here still? How about that big clown who used to be on the Bucks? I honestly think we would've been better off with JB Bickerstaff eventhough he was a bit young and immature yet. But any good coach has a good assistant staff around them. Silas was practically begging for a job, he would've been a great assistant to help this team learn how to rebound and play some D. You could solve it all by bringing Larry Brown or Rick Carlisle in and just let them assemble the staff. I just don't get it, I don't understand why we have the NBDL attitude towards everything. They made one awesome trade (the J-Rich trade) and have done nothing else to try and win.

The Bobcats should use MJs' connections and hire Patrick Ewing away from the Rockets (?) and if hes not available, then hire Herb Williams (he can't possibly survive another head coaching change, can he?).

I won't ( was going to say wouldn't, but lets be honest) mind another year of Vincent, but FOR THE LOVE OF GOD "learn from your mistakes and also hire a better assistant staff". Hire and old experienced guy to help you along. I'm guessing former Bulls coach (one of the best NBA IQ guys ever AND one of the most intense) Doug Collins wouldn't mind becoming an assistant for this team.

Doug can in-game manage a game like no one else. And letting his former PG (when they were Bulls) learn from him would immaculate.

[W_HAMILTON]

I think Ewing is with the Magic now.

And I can't imagine Collins would leave his cushy TV job for an assistant coaching spot with us.

[Rich4114]

I actually am shocked at the fact that this organization doesn't just hire Hakeem to come here and be our big man coach. He already works out and coaches Okafor in the off-season - why not bring him here to help continue developing Okafor into a better player? Look at what Ewing's done for Howard since his name was brought up.

Out of all the assistants, I just can't stand Capel. I mean c'mon, he looks like a prop most of the time. What the hell does he even ever say or do? Is he there to make Vincent look like the second dumbest guy on our bench?

[bobcatters]

Out of all the assistants, I just can't stand Capel. I mean c'mon, he looks like a prop most of the time. What the hell does he even ever say or do? Is he there to make Vincent look like the second dumbest guy on our bench?

Depends, only when Ford is sober is Vincent the second dumbest guy on the team.

[fluffernutter]

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Depends, only when Ford is sober is Vincent the second dumbest guy on the team.

That's a pretty crappy thing to say about somebody who has apparently been sober every day since 1999 (with great difficulty) and who is very involved in AA.

I'd suggest you grow up.

Or you can make fun of people with AIDS next. Or, keeping with the Bobcats theme, diabetes.

I'll start.

"Hey Steve, gobbled down a few dozen doughnut holes recently?"

See, isn't that just hilarious?

I'll let you continue.

[Rich4114]

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Depends, only when Ford is sober is Vincent the second dumbest guy on the team.

Hahaha, I knew a Capel bashing would bring you out of hiding, where the heck have you been.