I'm not sure how they do it in the NBA, but at UNC at the end of every season, you'd meet with the coach and he would give you a list of things to work on during the summer. What would be your to do list for the cats players?
Meka:
1. Sign up for a dodgeball league, dont leave until you catch 80% of the balls thrown at you
2. 5' jumpers. all angles, turning, pivoting, fading away, you name it. either you make that shot or you learn to dunk vertical from 5' out. no more of those eyes shut airballs
Ray:
1. Lock yourself in a gym and line the 3 point arc with a 6' fence. do not leave gym until youve made 10000 shots over the fence.
2. remove fence and place a giant life size "operation" cut out of yourself 3' from the basket, do not leave until you are able to jump through cutout without hitting the sides and make layup.
GW:
1. Find empty gym and fill it completely with pillows. just go crazy man. dive for loose balls, whatever you want. just get it out of your system.
2. go to crossroads and challenge the devil to a game of horse. do not leave gym until youve beaten the devil.
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]DaBassSource wrote:I would rather Ray focus on the midrange shot and floater....He could be a very good midrange shooter... He does not really shoot that many 3s and I like it that way....
He started rocking that nice little tear drop floater down the lane over the last month of the season. I agree, if he can add that and hit it at a high clip it would be a huge help.
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ok... i'll do mine. i wont even try to be funny. i cant compete with unc on this one.
felton - mid-range game. conditioning and strength.
richardson - handles, playmaking, post up game.
wallace - as always... jumpers, handles.
okafor - conditioning, fts, baseline jumper, finishing through contact.
dudley - conditioning, quickness, mid range game
ammo - rehab knee, conditioning, weight training, defense, get mojo back.
may - not being fat
carroll - ball handling, triple threat, shooting off dribble
nazr - rest old man knees
all others just work on making the team.
felton - mid-range game. conditioning and strength.
richardson - handles, playmaking, post up game.
wallace - as always... jumpers, handles.
okafor - conditioning, fts, baseline jumper, finishing through contact.
dudley - conditioning, quickness, mid range game
ammo - rehab knee, conditioning, weight training, defense, get mojo back.
may - not being fat
carroll - ball handling, triple threat, shooting off dribble
nazr - rest old man knees
all others just work on making the team.
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Felton:
(1) Give back to the community, and spend the next month inviting in locals to participate in your daily shoot-around. Kids, men, women, young people, old people, out of shape people, legally-blind people...turn away no one.
Then spend the next two hours watching them miss over and over, and think to yourself how this might correlate to what happens during actual games.
If by chance you find someone that doesn't miss over and over, and actually makes some shots, ask them for advice on how they do it.
(2) Stand at the basket, pretending to be a big man. Get someone, preferably inexperienced, to perform 50 layups. If they miss, be sure to rebound the ball before it touches the ground.
HOWEVER, one* of those 50 times, the player will pass it.
Real hard.
At your face.
Be ready.
And don't bobble it!
* To Felton's credit, when he gets into the lane, he passes it more than just once in 50 times, I think.
(1) Give back to the community, and spend the next month inviting in locals to participate in your daily shoot-around. Kids, men, women, young people, old people, out of shape people, legally-blind people...turn away no one.
Then spend the next two hours watching them miss over and over, and think to yourself how this might correlate to what happens during actual games.
If by chance you find someone that doesn't miss over and over, and actually makes some shots, ask them for advice on how they do it.
(2) Stand at the basket, pretending to be a big man. Get someone, preferably inexperienced, to perform 50 layups. If they miss, be sure to rebound the ball before it touches the ground.
HOWEVER, one* of those 50 times, the player will pass it.
Real hard.
At your face.
Be ready.
And don't bobble it!
* To Felton's credit, when he gets into the lane, he passes it more than just once in 50 times, I think.
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Yes.
A Felton homer listing a "to-do" list, and of course starting it with Okafor, and telling him to fix something he's never had a problem with before, all the while telling Felton "hey, kid, all you need to do is work on making some more of those many shots you take!" elicits a "reaction" in me.
A Felton homer listing a "to-do" list, and of course starting it with Okafor, and telling him to fix something he's never had a problem with before, all the while telling Felton "hey, kid, all you need to do is work on making some more of those many shots you take!" elicits a "reaction" in me.
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W_HAMILTON wrote:Yes.
A Felton homer listing a "to-do" list, and of course starting it with Okafor, and telling him to fix something he's never had a problem with before, all the while telling Felton "hey, kid, all you need to do is work on making some more of those many shots you take!" elicits a "reaction" in me.
You dont even watch the games do you Ham?
your opinion is dead to me.
contunuing...
Ammo:
1. Rehab, rehab, rehab.
Jrich:
1. Sign up to be Britneys bodyguard. with all the papa around and idiotic ideas in that girls head if you can learn to defend her from herself, basketball will be childsplay
Dudes:
1. beach volleyball all summer long. How do you think Vince Carter got those ups? he grew up in Daytona and played volleyball all summer. jumping in sand good, make you strong, jump high like kite.
Puddin:
1. Rehab. seriously man, frikkin rehab. if your having trouble getting motivated or the club didnt shut down till 4, whatever, just get healthy.
find a black van with 4 middle aged dudes with heavy artillery. If you need help and you can find them, maybe you could hire them to whip your ass into shape.
Nazzy:
1. Find fountain of youth. jump in. rinse, repeat.
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Even if someone never watched one game of our's, you could judge whether or not it was a problem back then by seeing if you all bitched about it as much then as you do now.
You didn't.
That's because it wasn't a problem.
And if you watched the games, you'd have already realized that.
You didn't.
That's because it wasn't a problem.
And if you watched the games, you'd have already realized that.
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edit for wallace
wallace - learn how to stretch, get in shape over the summer and dont wait until training camp this time.
so that's basically 5 players i listed as needed to improve conditioning, 6 if you count may. pretty much the entire team. i just dont get the impression our guys are in top shape. if we were a soccer team, we'd get run off the pitch.
wallace - learn how to stretch, get in shape over the summer and dont wait until training camp this time.
so that's basically 5 players i listed as needed to improve conditioning, 6 if you count may. pretty much the entire team. i just dont get the impression our guys are in top shape. if we were a soccer team, we'd get run off the pitch.
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Felton-Watch Chauncy Billups game tapes from the title year. Prepare yourself to be challenged. Shooting is not a necessary area for improvement, Felton's long range shooting is fine. He should work on his form some, but he's been a good shooter from 3 in the past, a lot of the misses were because he was shooting off of the dribble and taking poor shots in general.
Okafor-Free throws! Windsprints! Learning what constitutes as a travel
Richardson-low post moves, continue practicing shots from high post. Work on midrange jumper from the wings.
Wallace-learn how to stretch. Watch game tape from the Piston's title season, specifically focusing on Rasheed Wallace with a minor focus on Tayshaun Prince.
Dudley-Improve handles, work on conditioning, study Tayshaun Prince.
Hammer- prepare for LB's offense, you'll be an important piece but you can't be a liability on defense. Work in tandem with Jrich.
Ammo- focus on team defense, buy a facemask and pretend you're Richard Hamilton
May-Talk to Antonio McDyess. Do something positive about your weight, take preventative measures, be proactive. Find God, Sean.
Nazr-Take it easy, mentor Hollins and Davidson
Hollins-increase BBIQ
Davidson- work on team defense
Okafor-Free throws! Windsprints! Learning what constitutes as a travel
Richardson-low post moves, continue practicing shots from high post. Work on midrange jumper from the wings.
Wallace-learn how to stretch. Watch game tape from the Piston's title season, specifically focusing on Rasheed Wallace with a minor focus on Tayshaun Prince.
Dudley-Improve handles, work on conditioning, study Tayshaun Prince.
Hammer- prepare for LB's offense, you'll be an important piece but you can't be a liability on defense. Work in tandem with Jrich.
Ammo- focus on team defense, buy a facemask and pretend you're Richard Hamilton
May-Talk to Antonio McDyess. Do something positive about your weight, take preventative measures, be proactive. Find God, Sean.
Nazr-Take it easy, mentor Hollins and Davidson
Hollins-increase BBIQ
Davidson- work on team defense
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Walt do you think we will become a Detroit clone... I would be disappointed if we did....Don't get me wrong I would love the improvement and a chance at a championship...but I hope LB can take our strengths and add/teach his knowledge of the game...Walt Cronkite wrote:Felton-Watch Chauncy Billups game tapes from the title year. Prepare yourself to be challenged. Shooting is not a necessary area for improvement, Felton's long range shooting is fine. He should work on his form some, but he's been a good shooter from 3 in the past, a lot of the misses were because he was shooting off of the dribble and taking poor shots in general.
Okafor-Free throws! Windsprints! Learning what constitutes as a travel
Richardson-low post moves, continue practicing shots from high post. Work on midrange jumper from the wings.
Wallace-learn how to stretch. Watch game tape from the Piston's title season, specifically focusing on Rasheed Wallace with a minor focus on Tayshaun Prince.
Dudley-Improve handles, work on conditioning, study Tayshaun Prince.
Hammer- prepare for LB's offense, you'll be an important piece but you can't be a liability on defense. Work in tandem with Jrich.
Ammo- focus on team defense, buy a facemask and pretend you're Richard Hamilton
May-Talk to Antonio McDyess. Do something positive about your weight, take preventative measures, be proactive. Find God, Sean.
Nazr-Take it easy, mentor Hollins and Davidson
Hollins-increase BBIQ
Davidson- work on team defense
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Seeing as how Okafor has improved season-by-season with the types of moves he's added, you can rest assured that he will probably continue to develop in the offseason, and continue to add more moves to his game.
Hopefully he'll be included in the offense so he can show them off next season. Even though with the addition of Brown, I'm quite sure he will be
Hopefully he'll be included in the offense so he can show them off next season. Even though with the addition of Brown, I'm quite sure he will be
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I've always read while on this board that from the beginning the FO wanted to build the team similarly to the Detroit title team, so yea, I do think that it's the direction Brown should focus his efforts. Solid team defense, good bench players, defined roles, smart shots, balanced offense.
I love Billups as a prototypical PG, think Rip is a pretty good example of what a SG should do, love the forward combo of Prince and Wallace and think the big man should concentrate on scoring efficiently, rebounding and being an anchor on defense.
PG:Felton is capable of being a high quality starting PG that guards the smallest player on the other end.
SG: Richardson must play bend-but-don't-break defense on the perimeter
SF: I actually think Dudley is more similar to Prince than Wallace. This is a glue position and is ideally an above average defender.
PF: Wallace gets banged up playing bruiser 4s, but those guys rarely can take people off the dribble, so I think we'd go with Mohammed and Okafor in those situations and let Gerald play more instead of Dudley. Offensively I think he's a less skilled, more athletic Rasheed (obviously smaller)
Emeka is comparable to Ben Wallace/Rasheed/McDyess
Fats has always tried to get people to think Ammo could be effective if used similarly to Richard Hamilton. If someone can make this so (at least offensively) it's Brown. If not, I'm sure Carroll can take the role.
I love Billups as a prototypical PG, think Rip is a pretty good example of what a SG should do, love the forward combo of Prince and Wallace and think the big man should concentrate on scoring efficiently, rebounding and being an anchor on defense.
PG:Felton is capable of being a high quality starting PG that guards the smallest player on the other end.
SG: Richardson must play bend-but-don't-break defense on the perimeter
SF: I actually think Dudley is more similar to Prince than Wallace. This is a glue position and is ideally an above average defender.
PF: Wallace gets banged up playing bruiser 4s, but those guys rarely can take people off the dribble, so I think we'd go with Mohammed and Okafor in those situations and let Gerald play more instead of Dudley. Offensively I think he's a less skilled, more athletic Rasheed (obviously smaller)
Emeka is comparable to Ben Wallace/Rasheed/McDyess
Fats has always tried to get people to think Ammo could be effective if used similarly to Richard Hamilton. If someone can make this so (at least offensively) it's Brown. If not, I'm sure Carroll can take the role.
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While I agree that we could become a pretty good defensive team...but I really would like to see us run and score more...I hope we do not end up being a team that averages 80~90pts per....Walt Cronkite wrote:I've always read while on this board that from the beginning the FO wanted to build the team similarly to the Detroit title team, so yea, I do think that it's the direction Brown should focus his efforts. Solid team defense, good bench players, defined roles, smart shots, balanced offense.
I love Billups as a prototypical PG, think Rip is a pretty good example of what a SG should do, love the forward combo of Prince and Wallace and think the big man should concentrate on scoring efficiently, rebounding and being an anchor on defense.
PG:Felton is capable of being a high quality starting PG that guards the smallest player on the other end.
SG: Richardson must play bend-but-don't-break defense on the perimeter
SF: I actually think Dudley is more similar to Prince than Wallace. This is a glue position and is ideally an above average defender.
PF: Wallace gets banged up playing bruiser 4s, but those guys rarely can take people off the dribble, so I think we'd go with Mohammed and Okafor in those situations and let Gerald play more instead of Dudley. Offensively I think he's a less skilled, more athletic Rasheed (obviously smaller)
Emeka is comparable to Ben Wallace/Rasheed/McDyess
Fats has always tried to get people to think Ammo could be effective if used similarly to Richard Hamilton. If someone can make this so (at least offensively) it's Brown. If not, I'm sure Carroll can take the role.
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Yikes, a longer-term study will be hard, but here's the pace ranking for Brown's teams, picking up with the Nets in 81-82:
81-82 Nets - 103.1 (4th)
82-83 Nets - 104 (6th)
88-89 Spurs - 104.1 (6th)
89-90 Spurs - 98.5 (11th)
90-91 Spurs - 98.6 (10th)
91-92 Spurs - 96.2 (14th) (Bob Bass coached half this season)
91-92 Clippers - 96.5 (13th) (Mike Schuler coached hafl this season)
92-93 Clippers - 99.1 (7th)
93-94 Pacers - 93.3 (22nd)
94-95 Pacers - 90.0 (25th)
95-96 Pacers - 89.3 (27th)
96-97 Pacers - 89.0 (20th)
97-98 Sixers - 90.4 (13th)
98-99 Sixers - 88.6 (19th)
99-00 Sixers - 92.7 (16th)
00-01 Sixers - 90.6 (19th)
01-02 Sixers - 88.9 (25th)
02-03 Sixers - 91.4 (13th)
03-04 Pistons - 87.9 (24th)
04-05 Pistons - 87.2 (29th)
05-06 Knicks - 90.8 (16th)
So there you have it... basically, after those crazy days of the 1980s, he's settled into a pattern of ~90 possessions per game. That is actually approximately average of the NBA right now. Sometimes he's dipped lower (the Pistons) but usually he's a slightly-below-average tempo coach.
81-82 Nets - 103.1 (4th)
82-83 Nets - 104 (6th)
88-89 Spurs - 104.1 (6th)
89-90 Spurs - 98.5 (11th)
90-91 Spurs - 98.6 (10th)
91-92 Spurs - 96.2 (14th) (Bob Bass coached half this season)
91-92 Clippers - 96.5 (13th) (Mike Schuler coached hafl this season)
92-93 Clippers - 99.1 (7th)
93-94 Pacers - 93.3 (22nd)
94-95 Pacers - 90.0 (25th)
95-96 Pacers - 89.3 (27th)
96-97 Pacers - 89.0 (20th)
97-98 Sixers - 90.4 (13th)
98-99 Sixers - 88.6 (19th)
99-00 Sixers - 92.7 (16th)
00-01 Sixers - 90.6 (19th)
01-02 Sixers - 88.9 (25th)
02-03 Sixers - 91.4 (13th)
03-04 Pistons - 87.9 (24th)
04-05 Pistons - 87.2 (29th)
05-06 Knicks - 90.8 (16th)
So there you have it... basically, after those crazy days of the 1980s, he's settled into a pattern of ~90 possessions per game. That is actually approximately average of the NBA right now. Sometimes he's dipped lower (the Pistons) but usually he's a slightly-below-average tempo coach.
