POR - CHAR

BeesWax · Post #1 » by **BeesWax** » Thu May 22, 2008 2:45 pm

I was looking at rumors and would said Portland would want to move up for Augustin. I was thinking about a trade like this.

Frye, Jack and 13

for

Morrison and 9

This gives Brown a tall PG with some strength. I am not sure how Frye would fit into his plans but it is a big man who can hit the mid range jumper. Plus at 13 we could still get a athletic 4 to play along side EO.

Post #2 » by **BigSlam** » Thu May 22, 2008 3:03 pm

I'd be down.

But I like Spectre's trade idea with the Jazz a whole lot more!!

BeesWax · Post #3 » by **BeesWax** » Thu May 22, 2008 3:25 pm

Could you not do both. Something along this line.

Cats Trades:
Morrison, Wallace, Nazr, 8, filler

Get:
Boozer, Harpring, 23, Jack, Frye

Jazz Trades:
Boozer, Harpring, 23

Get:
Wallace, Nazr, 13

Port Trades:
Jack, Frye, 13

Get:
Morrison, 8

Our lineup would be
Felton/Jack - or switched battle in camp
J-Rich/Carroll
Harpring/Dudley
Boozer/Davidson/23rd pick
EO/Frye

Nice mixed group plus Frye can play late in close game for his FT shooting which we need from a big man.

chrbal · Post #4 » by **chrbal** » Thu May 22, 2008 4:09 pm

I like the 1st trade, not sure on the 2nd.

spectre_ · Post #5 » by **spectre_** » Thu May 22, 2008 4:29 pm

My amended trade was Nazr/Crash 9th for Boozer and Brewer. If we could talk the Jazz into taking the 13th instead (and there's no guarantee they'd even do the 1st) I'd certainly be down.

I'd be doing it for Frye though. Jack is much more a combo (POR fans have said he lacks court vision and pretty much sucks in running sets) and I doubt he'd get a lot of burn at the 2 if we got Brewer. I guess he'd be ok for spot minutes backing Felts...but I doubt he'd be happy just regulated to that.

BeesWax · Post #6 » by **BeesWax** » Thu May 22, 2008 4:35 pm

I think court vision was also the knock on Billups before Detroit. The stats from their first three years for the two are pretty similar as are body types. I am not sure we could get Brewer but if we changed it to Almond I think we might have a chance with the 13, Wallace and Nazr.

Post #7 » by **BigSlam** » Thu May 22, 2008 4:40 pm

spectre_ wrote:My amended trade was Nazr/Crash 9th for Boozer and Brewer.

I think this would be an amazing deal for us.

Felts - FA?
Brewer - Hammer
Swish - Dude - Ammo
Boozer - McMay - Davidson
EO50 - 2nd rd pick (DeVon Hardin?) - Hollins

Gives us the on ball defender with handles we long for as well as a big who can play the pick and pop as well as the pick and roll.

I love it.

:clap:

Post #8 » by **BigSlam** » Thu May 22, 2008 4:40 pm

jdm3 wrote:Could you not do both. Something along this line.

Cats Trades:
Morrison, Wallace, Nazr, 8, filler

Get:
Boozer, Harpring, 23, Jack, Frye.

Got to have Ronnie Brewer coming our way or the deal isn't nearly as attractive IMO.

Badd_Intentions · Post #9 » by **Badd_Intentions** » Thu May 22, 2008 4:42 pm

in a freakin hearbeat

I like the Portland trade to. Love Channing Frye and Jack is steady.

Not sure Utah would trade Booz away.

spectre_ · Post #10 » by **spectre_** » Thu May 22, 2008 4:47 pm

BigSlam wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I think this would be an amazing deal for us.

Felts - FA?
Brewer - Hammer
Swish - Dude - Ammo
Boozer - McMay - Davidson
EO50 - 2nd rd pick (DeVon Hardin?) - Hollins

Gives us the on ball defender with handles we long for as well as a big who can play the pick and pop as well as the pick and roll.

I love it.

Y'know, adding in Jack and Frye (for the 55 games or so May is out) does balance the roster better. Jack can play the 2 and in a pinch Hammer could slide to the 3. LB has also liked the half court game in the past which does makes Jack more useful.

Slam, which do you like better...Jack/Frye or TT? This deal does net us depth at PG.

spectre_ · Post #11 » by **spectre_** » Thu May 22, 2008 4:49 pm

Badd_Intentions wrote:in a freakin hearbeat

I like the Portland trade to. Love Channing Frye and Jack is steady.

Not sure Utah would trade Booz away.

Yeah, no telling how their management is feeling. Their fans however are still pissed from the playoffs so emotions are coming into play.

They all seem to love Crash though and feel Nazr will give them very productive minutes.

Post #12 » by **BigSlam** » Thu May 22, 2008 4:50 pm

spectre_ wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Slam, which do you like better...Jack/Frye or TT? This deal does net us depth at PG.

I prefer the TT deal with us selecting either DJ or Westbrook at #9

Post #13 » by **BigSlam** » Thu May 22, 2008 4:52 pm

spectre_ wrote:-= original quote snipped =-
Yeah, no telling how their management is feeling. Their fans however are still pissed from the playoffs so emotions are coming into play.

They all seem to love Crash though and feel Nazr will give them very productive minutes.

And they also want AK47 at his more natural and productive position at the 4 - which wont happen with Boozer there.

BeesWax · Post #14 » by **BeesWax** » Thu May 22, 2008 4:55 pm

You could make it so that we get brewer and not harpring. I mean you could do both trades. I am just not sure Utah would trade Brewer. Ideally our lineup could be:

Felton/Jack
Brewer/Carroll
JRich/Dudley
Boozer/Davidson/23rd pick
EO/Frye

It works in trade machine on ESPN. So I mean if Spectre's trade was cool with Utah no reason we could not do both and improve our starters and our depth.

spectre_ · Post #15 » by **spectre_** » Thu May 22, 2008 4:56 pm

BigSlam wrote:-= original quote snipped =-

I prefer the TT deal with us selecting either DJ or Westbrook at #9

Sorry, should have clarified. Which would you prefer:

Nazr/Crash/9th/Ammo out

for

Booz/Brewer/Jack/Frye

or

Booz/Brewer/TT

Our pick would be going out to Utah (or POR if we went that route and Utah would settle for the 13th) in either case.

BeesWax · Post #16 » by **BeesWax** » Thu May 22, 2008 5:01 pm

If we go the TT route then we will need to find a backup center somewhere.

Post #17 » by **BigSlam** » Thu May 22, 2008 5:22 pm

jdm3 wrote:You could make it so that we get brewer and not harpring. I mean you could do both trades. I am just not sure Utah would trade Brewer. Ideally our lineup could be:

Felton/Jack
Brewer/Carroll
JRich/Dudley
Boozer/Davidson/23rd pick
EO/Frye

It works in trade machine on ESPN. So I mean if Spectre's trade was cool with Utah no reason we could not do both and improve our starters and our depth.

If we pulled off something like that I would filp my wig!!

I'd go into the season accepting nothing less than playing in the finals.

Post #18 » by **BigSlam** » Thu May 22, 2008 5:25 pm

spectre_ wrote:Nazr/Crash/9th/Ammo out
for
Booz/Brewer/Jack/Frye

or

Booz/Brewer/TT

Ahhhhhhh, I see.

I'd go with Booz/Brewer/Jack/Frye for sure. Like jd has been saying, a lot more depth and NBA experience. Plus it addresses our back up PG problem.

Post #19 » by **BigSlam** » Thu May 22, 2008 5:25 pm

jdm3 wrote:If we go the TT route then we will need to find a backup center somewhere.

POB for next to nothing or Diop for the MLE.

kwohlge · Post #20 » by **kwohlge** » Thu May 22, 2008 10:28 pm

ok, no one really explains how Utah would ever shop Boozer; Sloan treats Boozer like the second coming of Karl Malone in their offense -- why would they ever give him up for an expiring contract, an injury prone swingman, and a draft pick (sloan doesn't play rookies that much); this is not even discounting losing one of their ONLY good defenders (outside of AK, who do they have? Ronnie Brewer?!) in Harpring

this is a team that is one season removed from the western conference finals, a team that made it to the second round, playing tough against a loaded lakers team -- they're not going to want to lose half of their rebounding and 1/4 of their scoring on a chance like Crash and a draft pick