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which free agents would you like to see us target in order to add more depth to the team. i am talking about players we could add for the MLE or less.
i posted this at BCP but i thought this deserved some more discussion...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/stor ... FreeAgents
free agents that i like for our team (all MLE value or less, imo)
not in order of desire, just going down the list...
needs (that we can get for MLE or less): back up pg, combo guard, wing defensive stopper, athletic power forward
tony allen (r) - for those that like westbrook in the draft, allen is a worst case scenario version of westbrook. injury and knucklehead concerns should keep his value low.
chris duhon - of course all the boozing rumors are a major concern.
brandon bass - (r) - probably not a chance in hell dallas lets him get away
eduardo najera - could guard quicker pfs. seems like a LB kinda guy, but also seems to duplicate what we have with dudley. beats the hell out of harrington though.
bobby jones (r) - known as a defensive stopper. nothing more than a 12th man though.
anthony carter - solid veteran backup pg. better than mcinnis. also seems like an LB kinda guy.
walter herrmann (r) - would love to have walter back. and seeing as how vincent pretty much killed his value, could be had for much less than his is worth.
austin croshere - dont laugh. he'll finally get a contract that he is worth (like 2mil per). would give us a pick and pop option with felton, which has been lacking lately.
patrick o bryant - not bad if you can get him for less than 3mil per. he's young w/ upside (more than hollins). could be a decent back up center for the next few years.
carl landry (r) - not much of a chance houston lets him go, but could be that pf we are looking for. maybe worth an early high bid (around MLE) at the beginning of FA to see how serious houston is about matching offers.
quinton ross - a defensive specialist who would play sparringly. not bad for depth though.
josh powell (r) - solid young big man with post moves. agent is apparently from the area and i have a gut feeling that josh would like to be here. not bad for depth.
ronny turiaf (r) - see carl landry. lets give ammo a buddy.
juan carlos navarro (r) - only because i love me some euros that are smart and can shoot.
ryan gomes (r) - a lot like dudley, but would also be a big LB favorite. is capable of guarding pfs most of the time.
craig smith (r) - how many young guys can the t-wolves afford to keep around?
bostjan nachbar - i'd rank him right up there with landry and turiaf as top of my offseason wish list. and he's not restricted.
darrell armstrong - he never looks old to me. let him finish his career in NC. dude ran circles around mcinnis earlier this year.
carlos arroyo - put in him a pick and roll offense and watch him shine... as a backup that is.
keyon dooling - will probably get offered more money than he is worth, but he would solve 3 of our holes (backup pg, combo guard, wing defender).
louis williams (r) - probably would cost way too much to be a backup pg. i would imagine the sixers would match anything MLE or below. but he's young and can ball.
kevin ollie (r) - only as a 15th man at the vet min. One of LBs guys.
damon stoudamire - random addition. i wonder how he would do as felton's primary backup. certainly it beats getting zero minutes in san antonio, right?
good player in the MLE (or less) range that i would not target:
beno udrih - too much to pay for a guy to compete for a starting spot. i'd only do this if we decided to trade ray.
tyronn lue - too many injury problems for my liking.
matt barnes - would probably come at great value, but duplicates too much of what wallace and dudley bring.
mickael pietrus - would probably not be happy being a situation defensive stopper. no way he gets more than 5-10 minutes a game. too much money wrapped up in sgs.
chris mihm - see tyronn lue
desagana diop - will get way too much money for what he brings. i would only consider if okafor left and even then i would be hesitant.
jannero pargo - i'm on the fence with him. too streaky, too much of a gunner. no real playmaking skills.
brian skinner - pretty much a lesser nazr.
kurt thomas - dont bother, he'll be ring hunting.
francisco elson - if we really needed a backup center then sure, go for it. we have bigger needs.
rasho nesterovich - see diop/elson
carlos delfino - only if we can bring back walter and then unleash my "team argentina" trade assult where we trade the rest of our team for nocioni, manu, oberto and scola.
roger mason - if we needed some cheap sg depth i'd be all over this guy. i liked him at virginia and i still like him.
i posted this at BCP but i thought this deserved some more discussion...
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/stor ... FreeAgents
free agents that i like for our team (all MLE value or less, imo)
not in order of desire, just going down the list...
needs (that we can get for MLE or less): back up pg, combo guard, wing defensive stopper, athletic power forward
tony allen (r) - for those that like westbrook in the draft, allen is a worst case scenario version of westbrook. injury and knucklehead concerns should keep his value low.
chris duhon - of course all the boozing rumors are a major concern.
brandon bass - (r) - probably not a chance in hell dallas lets him get away
eduardo najera - could guard quicker pfs. seems like a LB kinda guy, but also seems to duplicate what we have with dudley. beats the hell out of harrington though.
bobby jones (r) - known as a defensive stopper. nothing more than a 12th man though.
anthony carter - solid veteran backup pg. better than mcinnis. also seems like an LB kinda guy.
walter herrmann (r) - would love to have walter back. and seeing as how vincent pretty much killed his value, could be had for much less than his is worth.
austin croshere - dont laugh. he'll finally get a contract that he is worth (like 2mil per). would give us a pick and pop option with felton, which has been lacking lately.
patrick o bryant - not bad if you can get him for less than 3mil per. he's young w/ upside (more than hollins). could be a decent back up center for the next few years.
carl landry (r) - not much of a chance houston lets him go, but could be that pf we are looking for. maybe worth an early high bid (around MLE) at the beginning of FA to see how serious houston is about matching offers.
quinton ross - a defensive specialist who would play sparringly. not bad for depth though.
josh powell (r) - solid young big man with post moves. agent is apparently from the area and i have a gut feeling that josh would like to be here. not bad for depth.
ronny turiaf (r) - see carl landry. lets give ammo a buddy.
juan carlos navarro (r) - only because i love me some euros that are smart and can shoot.
ryan gomes (r) - a lot like dudley, but would also be a big LB favorite. is capable of guarding pfs most of the time.
craig smith (r) - how many young guys can the t-wolves afford to keep around?
bostjan nachbar - i'd rank him right up there with landry and turiaf as top of my offseason wish list. and he's not restricted.
darrell armstrong - he never looks old to me. let him finish his career in NC. dude ran circles around mcinnis earlier this year.
carlos arroyo - put in him a pick and roll offense and watch him shine... as a backup that is.
keyon dooling - will probably get offered more money than he is worth, but he would solve 3 of our holes (backup pg, combo guard, wing defender).
louis williams (r) - probably would cost way too much to be a backup pg. i would imagine the sixers would match anything MLE or below. but he's young and can ball.
kevin ollie (r) - only as a 15th man at the vet min. One of LBs guys.
damon stoudamire - random addition. i wonder how he would do as felton's primary backup. certainly it beats getting zero minutes in san antonio, right?
good player in the MLE (or less) range that i would not target:
beno udrih - too much to pay for a guy to compete for a starting spot. i'd only do this if we decided to trade ray.
tyronn lue - too many injury problems for my liking.
matt barnes - would probably come at great value, but duplicates too much of what wallace and dudley bring.
mickael pietrus - would probably not be happy being a situation defensive stopper. no way he gets more than 5-10 minutes a game. too much money wrapped up in sgs.
chris mihm - see tyronn lue
desagana diop - will get way too much money for what he brings. i would only consider if okafor left and even then i would be hesitant.
jannero pargo - i'm on the fence with him. too streaky, too much of a gunner. no real playmaking skills.
brian skinner - pretty much a lesser nazr.
kurt thomas - dont bother, he'll be ring hunting.
francisco elson - if we really needed a backup center then sure, go for it. we have bigger needs.
rasho nesterovich - see diop/elson
carlos delfino - only if we can bring back walter and then unleash my "team argentina" trade assult where we trade the rest of our team for nocioni, manu, oberto and scola.
roger mason - if we needed some cheap sg depth i'd be all over this guy. i liked him at virginia and i still like him.
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Here are the guys I what
hermann (please!!!)
nachbar (if we can't get walter)
anthony carter (not a bad backup)
louis williams (doubt we could get him- he could be a impact player in this league off of the bench)
craig smith (nice banger type player)
any combo of 2 of these guys I would really like ( especially walter and louis williams)
in fact an offseason of
adding walter and williams
healthy ammo (hopefully with confidence)
draft darrell arthur or anthony randolph
resign okafor for 10-12 mil
would be a good start for us
hermann (please!!!)
nachbar (if we can't get walter)
anthony carter (not a bad backup)
louis williams (doubt we could get him- he could be a impact player in this league off of the bench)
craig smith (nice banger type player)
any combo of 2 of these guys I would really like ( especially walter and louis williams)
in fact an offseason of
adding walter and williams
healthy ammo (hopefully with confidence)
draft darrell arthur or anthony randolph
resign okafor for 10-12 mil
would be a good start for us
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powerforward wrote:Here are the guys I what
hermann (please!!!)
nachbar (if we can't get walter)
anthony carter (not a bad backup)
louis williams (doubt we could get him- he could be a impact player in this league off of the bench)
craig smith (nice banger type player)
any combo of 2 of these guys I would really like ( especially walter and louis williams)
in fact an offseason of
adding walter and williams
healthy ammo (hopefully with confidence)
draft darrell arthur or anthony randolph
resign okafor for 10-12 mil
would be a good start for us
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Well said. The only 2 things I would add would be Brandon Bass on the FA end (if we could) and I think i would put Love in there with Arthur and Randolph. Especially after Pre-Draft Camp, Love was solid with his jumpers. If we can get a PF that can not only play inside, but can bring the opposition out near the 3 pt line, that opens it up for Okafor inside and it opens the lane for Crash, J-Rich and Ray to drive the lanes.
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Since we need a backup point I would go with Udrih and play him strictly as a backup. I love teams that have two good point guards because that dropoff doesnt happen from first to second team. Take for example the Kings when they had Bibby and Bobby Jackson or the Suns with Nash and Barbosa.
If not Udrih then I guess Anthony Carter and at an all else fails, Chris Duhon.
For a big I like Turiafs game alot and then Najera and lastly O'Bryant if hes super cheap. Any one of those I think could help the team.
Would anybody make a run at Josh Smith this summer, I dont know where to put him and I don't want anybody to block Ammo's upcoming breakout season but if we had a chance at him.
If not Udrih then I guess Anthony Carter and at an all else fails, Chris Duhon.
For a big I like Turiafs game alot and then Najera and lastly O'Bryant if hes super cheap. Any one of those I think could help the team.
Would anybody make a run at Josh Smith this summer, I dont know where to put him and I don't want anybody to block Ammo's upcoming breakout season but if we had a chance at him.
the FAs thread
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the FAs thread
Sooner or later we will be suggesting Fas who we should target and I think it would be nice to have all these debates in one thread rather than trying to remember in which thread someone came up with this or that.
I 'm gonna start.
As i mentioned somewhere already, Clippers' Livingston is gonna be UFA (they will probably sign him for less money but still) - is it an interesting option for us? Right now we have only one PG under contract so I think we will gamble at this poasition anyway. If we are gonna bring a serviceable back-up PG, Larry's type of player and person, we could afford to waith for Shaun (well, troubled knee is an irrelevant think for us so far. May be).
I would really like Walter Herrmann back. I doubt he is inclined to sign with us, unless it was all Sam Vincent think, perhaps Bernie could talk him into it.
Waht do you say?
I 'm gonna start.
As i mentioned somewhere already, Clippers' Livingston is gonna be UFA (they will probably sign him for less money but still) - is it an interesting option for us? Right now we have only one PG under contract so I think we will gamble at this poasition anyway. If we are gonna bring a serviceable back-up PG, Larry's type of player and person, we could afford to waith for Shaun (well, troubled knee is an irrelevant think for us so far. May be).
I would really like Walter Herrmann back. I doubt he is inclined to sign with us, unless it was all Sam Vincent think, perhaps Bernie could talk him into it.
Waht do you say?

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doc - i started a similar thread about a week ago...
http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=794877
i'll merge the two
http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?t=794877
i'll merge the two