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Chad Ford got me thinking.... 

Post#1 » by misterglover » Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:40 pm

On ESPN insider today Chad Ford writes.....

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- bobcats have a promise to westbrook (based on process of elimination)



That has me giddy all way around as NOBODY in this draft impresses me as I see no one other than Beasley thats ready to step in and help an NBA team thats not already a contender but Westbrook is by far my favorite prospect. Ford then goes on to write:

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- gerald wallace is on the block along with others including richard jefferson

If Gerald is indeed on the block and we are targeting Westbrook what do you guys think of a 3 way sign and trade if we could pull it off:

CHA: Antawn Jamison
LAL: Gerald Wallace
WAS: Lamar Odom

plus what ever fillers needed to make it work, as I think Lakers now feel as if they need a defensive presence at SF who better than Crash, LO would give WAS more versatility he can play SF & PF were they have Caron Butler and an improving Andray Blatche. Plus it allows them not to lose Jamison for nothing and Odom is a good player. Jamison is the type of player I think this team needs a big who can rebound as well as quick enough to check the jump shooting PF's outside the box which Emeka definetely cant do all this is of course thinking along the lines that returning home to play is appealing to him. I think trading Wallace would hurt us(the fans), more than it would the team especially if we get Westbrook who we could slide to SG(along w/ Carroll) at times with JRich at SF and I dont think we lose alot(maybe energy?!...)
Our new lineup:
pg: Felton/Westbrook
sg: Carroll/JRich/Westbrook
sf: JRich/Dudley/Morrison
pf: Jamison/Okafor/May/Davidson
c: Okafor/Nazr
theres alot of versatility and options to that lineup

And finally in Chad's latest mock draft yesterday he wrote:

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- bobcats are very high on ajinca

Hopefully this means if we cant get Westbrook we are exploring or thinking of trading down and from what I have seen on websites of Ajinca I like him he's a skilled 7 ft guy with a soft jumper and very athletic think he would compliment Okafor nicely....Portland has the 13th, 33rd & 36th pick maybe they interested in trading 2 or 3 to move up they cant add 4 rookies to that already young and improving roster.

What ya'll think?
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Re: Chad Ford got me thinking.... 

Post#2 » by Pass_The_Sticks » Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:16 pm

Terrible.

Trade away a talented young 25 year old guy for a 33 year old who plays no defense.
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Re: Chad Ford got me thinking.... 

Post#3 » by doc.end » Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:32 pm

When was it the last time Ford was right? Hey, I could make up these things too.
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Re: Chad Ford got me thinking.... 

Post#4 » by misterglover » Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:51 pm

Pass_The_Sticks wrote:Terrible.

Trade away a talented young 25 year old guy for a 33 year old who plays no defense.


I can respect your opinion but I disagree...its not terrible when the 33 yr old is more talented and helps your team more than the 25 yr old especially if your mindset is win now I mean I wouldnt trade Emeka for Jamison lateral move there is no significant difference in what they do what Im talking about is trading a wing for a big(keep in mind we have JRich, Carroll, Dudley & Morrison all competing for time at the wing and Gerald probably has the highest trade value). Hell it doesnt even have to be Jamison in particular just a PF with the same attributes(double digit scorer, good rebounder, able to guard quicker bigs) Jamison was just the subject of this idea since he is local and a free agent and fits the criteria of what I think we need. I love Gerald but his jumpshot is garbage, he is injury prone and should not be a top 2 scorer on any contending team & he plays a position where he can be easily replaced plus I dont think it is lost on management that the team played better while he was out last year we as fans TRULY overvalue this guy, he is a good role player on a truly good team yet we treat him like he's a perennial allstar or 1st team NBA....what this team needs is a PF that can rebound(jamison = check), and guard quick perimeter minded PF's(jamison=check). I dont think we give Gerald away for nothing but I will not buy any argument that says we would be a worse team with Antawn versus Gerald...both good players I just feel that with JRich now entrenched as our leading scorer and able to play SF, Antawn has more value to this "team" Gerald has more value to this fan base
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Re: Chad Ford got me thinking.... 

Post#5 » by BigSlam » Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:23 pm

Pass_The_Sticks wrote:Terrible.

Trade away a talented young 25 year old guy for a 33 year old who plays no defense.


and the 33 year old who plays no defense is also searching for a nice, long fat financial commitment from a team for his last big pay day AND as a PF only shot over 50% from the floor once in 10 seasons with a career average of 45%.

I'm with PTS - I think this would be terrible. I'd rather go with Spectre's idea and trade Crash for Odom while hanging on to the 9th pick.
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Re: Chad Ford got me thinking.... 

Post#6 » by Walt Cronkite » Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:30 pm

My post got ated.

The Wallace blurb is out of context. The SFs on the market are mentioned b/c Phoenix apparently wants to move up in the draft so they can take one of Rush/Alexander/Westbrook or out entirely to pick up a veteran to spell Grant Hill. They're dangling the 15, Barbosa and Diaw.

I don't really think we'd be interested in a Barbosa/Felton backcourt and I personally find the acquisition of Diaw a very risky one. Would we really be willing to trade Wallace for the 15 and a trade exception?
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Post#7 » by BigSlam » Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:39 pm

The thing that I found interesting was this:

The Suns and a number of other teams are talking to the Minnesota Timberwolves, New York Knicks, Los Angeles Clippers, Milwaukee Bucks, Portland Trail Blazers and Nets about trading up in (or out of) the draft.

The Wolves seem especially ready to make a deal if Michael Beasley isn't on the board at No. 3. They like several of the bigs in this draft, including Brook Lopez, Kevin Love and Danilo Gallinari, but none of them is worth taking at No. 3.

It appears the Wolves won't take back veterans, though. Several GMs told me that Kevin McHale is looking for young players only.


If Lopez did fall to us at #9, could we package him with "stuff" and get Mayo back in return?
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Post#8 » by BigSlam » Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:41 pm

Lifted from Ford's on0line chat today:

Gary(Charlotte): Chad what are the chances of Gearld Wallace being moved?

Chad Ford: (2:03 PM ET ) Larry Brown likes to shake things up. I hear he's available. I think someone will show interest. They really want a center.

Ian (Charlotte, NC): Do you think there is any chance Kevin Love falls to the Bobcats? If not, do you think they take Brook Lopez or try to trade back and take Koufos, Anjica, or Hibbert?

Chad Ford: (1:50 PM ET ) I think Love goes No. 5 to Memphis. If he doesn't, the Bobcats are a likely destination. If he's gone, I think they look at Brook Lopez, Russell Westbrook, DeAndre Jordan and Alexis Ajinca.

Gary(Charlotte): Chad what are your thoughts on Alexis Ajinca, who would you compare him to, I have read LaMarcus Aldridge and KG.

Chad Ford: (2:24 PM ET ) Aldridge is a good comparison, though he's not as advanced offensively yet and he doesn't run the floor quite as well.
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Post#9 » by misterglover » Thu Jun 19, 2008 6:45 pm

You know Big Slam I would co-sign a Odom for Gerald trade too as I think Odom fits most of the same attributes as Jamison (maybe not as good of rebounder). I wasnt locked in on Jamison I was throwing a name of a "type" of player I think we need.....Odom fits the bill and is younger, works for me......
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Post#10 » by W_HAMILTON » Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:23 pm

Is anyone seeing replies half cut off?

Like in the first post, I see:

"We have, it appears, our first known promise of the draft. Multiple sources say that UCLA's We"

It's annoying, I can't read half of the threads on these new boards.
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Post#11 » by chabber » Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:28 pm

The rest of it was about Felton. Believe me you didn't miss anything. :P

Nah, seriously what browser are you using? I haven't had any problems other than my login issue which was just my fault I guess for not changing the url in my bookmark.
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Re: Chad Ford got me thinking.... 

Post#12 » by BigSlam » Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:30 pm

W_HAMILTON wrote:Is anyone seeing replies half cut off?

Like in the first post, I see:

"We have, it appears, our first known promise of the draft. Multiple sources say that UCLA's We"

It's annoying, I can't read half of the threads on these new boards.


We set that up so it would only happen to you W_Hamilton. Everyone else can see posts in their entirety.




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Post#13 » by W_HAMILTON » Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:31 pm

Also, even though I could be wrong since I can't read half of the messages, but I thought someone said that Westbrook didn't want to work out with us? If so, why would we have given him a promise? It's more likely that he was given a promise by LAC, which makes a lot more sense if he's from UCLA. Also, is Westbrook the guy with Tellem as his agent? I thought I read that somewhere as well.

Either way, it makes a lot more sense that LAC would have given a promise. Even if they want Mayo, it wouldn't preclude them from telling Westbrook that they would draft him if he was available and they weren't able to move up to get Mayo.
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Post#14 » by W_HAMILTON » Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:35 pm

I use IE, but I have my font setting sized to "larger," so I don't know if that is causing it or not. I tried to switch it to "medium" yesterday, and it didn't seem to affect the font size here at all. Maybe I need to close out the window and change it to "medium" and try to open these boards up in a new window and see if that works.
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Post#15 » by W_HAMILTON » Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:41 pm

Well, that fixed it, but it's kinda annoying. I usually put my monitor at the back corner of my desk, and I usually lean back when reading, so it's kinda tougher to see the smaller font. Oh well, maybe that's something they'll eventually fix at well.
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Post#16 » by BigSlam » Thu Jun 19, 2008 7:46 pm

W_HAMILTON wrote:Well, that fixed it, but it's kinda annoying. I usually put my monitor at the back corner of my desk, and I usually lean back when reading, so it's kinda tougher to see the smaller font. Oh well, maybe that's something they'll eventually fix at well.


Sorry to break it to you, but that's old age!! Nothing that RGM can do will fix that!!

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Post#17 » by fatlever » Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:09 pm

guys... please remember that you cant directly quote sources that are paid material like espn insider. also, all quotes should at least have a link.
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Post#18 » by fatlever » Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:26 pm

BigSlam wrote:The thing that I found interesting was this:


If Lopez did fall to us at #9, could we package him with "stuff" and get Mayo back in return?


i would trade #9 and next years first round pick (unconditional) for minny's #3.
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Post#19 » by W_HAMILTON » Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:27 pm

Well, Bonnell posted a blog that said we worked out Westbrook today, so maybe I was getting him confused with someone else. Wasn't there another guard type who was projected to go top 10, who's agent is Tellem, and who wouldn't work out with us?
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Post#20 » by fatlever » Thu Jun 19, 2008 8:32 pm

ham, there is a change the font size buttom at the top right of the board.

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