Charlotte Phoenix Trade

NashtyNas · Post #1 » by **NashtyNas** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:43 pm

Charlotte - Phoenix Trade:

Phx Trades:
Boris Diaw
2nd Round pick
DJ Strawberry

Charlotte Trades:
Gerald wallace
Sean May

Why for Phoenix:
They get the wing defender and 3rd scorer they want, basically replacing EVERYTHING that shawn did. This is a cheaper and smarter version of "THE MATRIX." Apparent from how much we have missed his perimiter defence, theres no question this is a neccessity on our team. We also acquire a solid backup PF for stoudemire that put up some good numbers before being injured. This is ofcourse taking in consideration that he is healthy and able to paly next year (Sean May that is).

Why for Charlotte:
They have had injury problems with Wallace AND May and are looking to resign EO50. Also, they feel the games of J-Rich and CRASH are too similar to have them on the same team and need to make space for Adam Morrison, and with the recent success of J-Rich, he is untouchable, therefore CRASH must go. They acquire a backup SG, a 2nd round pick in a DEEP draft, and a SF/PF that can start and contribute to their game immediatly. Especially with a center like EO50, Diaw can run his finnesse game VERY effeciently.

nfcchamp2004 · Post #2 » by **nfcchamp2004** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:01 pm

Post #3 » by **Walt Cronkite** » Thu Jun 19, 2008 11:03 pm

Doesn't work in ESPN or RealGM's trade checkers.

Gonna take the 15 instead of a 2nd rounder, as well.

Try again.

NashtyNas · Post #4 » by **NashtyNas** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:19 am

it doesnt work in the trade checkers but i thought the salaries match pretty evenly. i dont understand why it doesnt work. also, your FO decided wallace needs to leave, and this is one of the best deals imo. another is rasheed wallace from detriot but then again, do you want a 33 year old that has attitude problems or a young forward who was huge on the big stage (2 games he was amazing when the suns needed him). You also get a backup PG/SG with tremendous potential. I dont see how this deal is bad for you guys or us. We take away your "injury bug" hit players, and you get a nice value for both in return. + I dont really think the 48th pick is that bad in this draft. You have a nice opportuinity to draft a decent backup big and get him some minutes in your front court.
What if the suns included Alando Tucker?

Rich4114 · Post #5 » by **Rich4114** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:21 am

Um no

Post #6 » by **Walt Cronkite** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 12:47 am

Alando Tucker?

Try harder.

NashtyNas · Post #7 » by **NashtyNas** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:05 am

I guess you guys are just not interested. Thanks anyways guys, i will post again if i can think of anything else. Btw WC, dont insult players. Have you ever seen the kid play? he has amazing potential, go watch some Albequrue Thunderbirds games if you havent, because hes the REALLY POOR MANS lebron james, just needs to develop a lot more. You may think im over exaggerating, but watch in 5 years. If this kid gets the playing time, he can be the next LBJ. Its just that we need talent NOW because our window of Shaq+Nash+Bell+Hill is CLOSING. FAST.
Just remember, Kobe was a nobody for his first two-three seasons...

Pass_The_Sticks · Post #8 » by **Pass_The_Sticks** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:19 am

Do you guys even watch Basketball?

I mean seriously, this has to be one of the worst trades ever.

Post #9 » by **BigSlam** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 2:17 am

sd1306 wrote:Btw IWC, dont insult players.

SD - how about you don't insult our posters with such bad trade offers?

also, your FO decided wallace needs to leave

Says who?

another is rasheed wallace from detriot but then again, do you want a 33 year old that has attitude problems or a young forward who was huge on the big stage

That would be the same young forward who signed his big fat contract with the Suns then turned up after the summer even bigger and fatter than the crazy contract is that you guys gave him?

NashtyNas · Post #10 » by **NashtyNas** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:17 am

like i said, if you were "insulted" by my idea, im sorry. I felt that it was fair, clearly you disagree. I am entitled to my opinion, but i didnt insult your players did I? Also, did you not see the playoffs? 3-D showed up when it mattered, who cares about the regular season? We make the playoffs tyvm... if you really are interested in flaming, then do it through msging. i dont want to spam your boards.

Post #11 » by **BigSlam** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:22 am

Thinking you could get:

Gerald wallace
Sean May

for

Boris Diaw
2nd Round pick
DJ Strawberry

Is insulting our players - hence the response from everyone of our fans above.

And then you have the nerve to call Walt out?

Togo · Post #12 » by **Togo** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:36 am

Sorry....Barbosa/15 is close I think. (I think we all agreed about that is a former thread). Diaw has negative value.

Post #13 » by **fatlever** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:19 am

spicy!

NashtyNas · Post #14 » by **NashtyNas** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:14 am

i didnt know you guys didnt care about players "value" diaw has great value but you seem to hold **** agaisnt him. i didnt insult your players i value them hence the propositition.

WaydownSouth · Post #15 » by **WaydownSouth** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:32 am

Diaw doesn't hold much value to anyone not name Mike D'Antonio.

Post #16 » by **Paydro70** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 1:07 pm

He's also making 9m a year. The trade is ridiculous dude, don't take it personally. Nobody even insulted your players, saying "try harder" is actually a very gentle way of saying how ridiculous offering a d-leaguer is.

chrbal · Post #17 » by **chrbal** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:29 pm

Diaw is rumored to be going to Toronto for the often injured TJ Ford and the 17th overall pick.

Your "offer" is for Charlotte to trade one of its best players and Sean May for the overpriced Boris Diaw (who no longer fits Phoenix style, which means YOU HAVE TO trade him), DJ Strawberry (Whose NBA career highlight is playing 5 minutes in a playoff game) and a 2nd round pick.

Do you see the difference?

I'll counteroffer your trade with Sean May, Othella Harrington, Nazr Mohammed, and a condtional draft pick for Amare Stoudmire.

Post #18 » by **Walt Cronkite** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 3:45 pm

sd1306 wrote:Have you ever seen the kid play? he has amazing potential, go watch some Albequrue Thunderbirds games if you havent, because hes the REALLY POOR MANS lebron james, just needs to develop a lot more. You may think im over exaggerating, but watch in 5 years. If this kid gets the playing time, he can be the next LBJ. Its just that we need talent NOW because our window of Shaq+Nash+Bell+Hill is CLOSING. FAST.
Just remember, Kobe was a nobody for his first two-three seasons...

You realize that this "kid" Alando was a 24 year old rookie, yea? I highly doubt that in 5 years, when Alando is 29 and LeBron is 28 there will be any discussion as to whom is the better player.

Anyway, I wrote "try harder" because you didn't respond at all to my points that the trade would require the 15 instead of a 2nd rounder and that it still didn't work in either trade checker.

spectre_ · Post #19 » by **spectre_** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:18 pm

Y'all are being way too nice. This trade idea flat out sucked and a GM would have to be both brain dead AND out to screw the owners as badly as possible to even consider this.

Rich4114 · Post #20 » by **Rich4114** » Fri Jun 20, 2008 6:12 pm

I'm surprised the thread didn't get locked honestly.