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Building the Prototype Bobcat Player - Point Guard

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Building the Prototype Bobcat Player - Point Guard 

Post#1 » by August Us Seazr » Mon Jun 23, 2008 10:42 am

I'm starting a new seven part series to give us something else to think about as we go forward in the building process of the team. What qualities would the "Ideal" Bobcat point guard have. Since this is a position of need in the upcoming draft, it is a relevant thing to think about.

First, a little disclaimer. It is not my intention to break this down into an indictment of Brevin Knight, Ray Felton, Jeff McInnis or any other player that has served in the position of point guard for the Bobcats. This is a build for the future exercise. (Note to mods- I consider negative comments about current players in this thread to be OFF TOPIC!) So stay focused, guys. We are building, not tearing down.

Now, I have come up with a few qualities that I want you to rank in order of importance from 1 to 26. Just to give me and my spreadsheet something to do, I will be keeping a running score of our results and will record them from time to time. This will not be a daily poll, rather I'm keeping this open-ended because there is a lot to digest and prototypes take time to build. If I have left out a vital quality or have a redundant one in here, please let me know, so that we can fix the model.

Just so you know, we will do centers, power forwards, combo forwards, small forwards, shooting guards and combo guards at a later time. Right now, let's focus on that all important point guard position.

So here are the qualities you will have to rank:

Has Good Forward Speed
Has Good Lateral Speed
Durability
Clutch Shooter
Good Passer
Good Defender-One on One
Good Defender-Disruptor
Good Shot Selection
Good Shot Percentage-Inside the Arc
Good Shot Percentage-3 Pointers
Good Free Throw Shooter
Draws a Lot of Fouls
Good Basketball IQ
Good Practice Player
Good Locker Room Guy
Good Floor Leadership
Good Offensive End Rebounder
Good Defensive End Rebounder
Good at Boxing Out in the Lane
Good Post Up Game
Good Leaping Ability
Good Transition Player
Makes His Teammates Better Players
Plays Well Without the Ball
Coachable Player
Good Citizen Off the Court

and two other items not involved in the ranking part:
Ideal Height Range:
Ideal Weight Range:

There it is, Bobcat Nation! Working parts. Now tab A goes into slot B........... Oh! Give this one your best shot for the team!
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Re: Building the Prototype Bobcat Player - Point Guard 

Post#2 » by SCBobcat » Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:55 pm

Here you go August:

Good Basketball IQ
Makes His Teammates Better Players
Good Floor Leadership
Coachable Player
Good Passer
Has Good Lateral Speed
Durability
Clutch Shooter
Good Transition Player
Good Defender-One on One
Good Practice Player
Good Shot Selection
Good Free Throw Shooter
Has Good Forward Speed
Good Defender-Disruptor
Draws a Lot of Fouls
Good Shot Percentage-Inside the Arc
Good Defensive End Rebounder
Good Shot Percentage-3 Pointers
Good Locker Room Guy
Plays Well Without the Ball
Good Leaping Ability
Good Citizen Off the Court
Good Offensive End Rebounder
Good Post Up Game
Good at Boxing Out in the Lane

Ideal Height Range: 6'2"-6'5"
Ideal Weight Range: 185-210
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Re: Building the Prototype Bobcat Player - Point Guard 

Post#3 » by Paydro70 » Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:24 pm

I think this exercise is interesting for the sake of learning about my fellow posters, but I am pretty sure these things are going to be similar on most ballots... passing for PGs, boxing out for big men, etc. The only thing that I don't really like is the leadership/off court stuff... I mean, if no one on the team can lead, that's bad, but it's not necessarily the PG's job to do it. Similarly, I don't care really what someone does off the court, but if the whole team is always in trouble, that's bad.

For the sake of my own sanity, I'm going to treat "Makes his teammates better players" as "ability to create easy baskets," which I see as something of a combination of "bbiq" and passing ability.

Good Passer
Good Basketball IQ
Makes His Teammates Better Players
Good Defender-One on One
Good Shot Selection
Good Shot Percentage-3 Pointers
Good Shot Percentage-Inside the Arc
Good Free Throw Shooter
Draws a Lot of Fouls
Good Transition Player
Good Floor Leadership
Has Good Forward Speed
Has Good Lateral Speed
Durability
Good Defender-Disruptor
Good Offensive End Rebounder
Good Defensive End Rebounder
Good Post Up Game
Good Leaping Ability
Good at Boxing Out in the Lane
Plays Well Without the Ball
Coachable Player
Clutch Shooter
Good Locker Room Guy
Good Citizen Off the Court
Good Practice Player
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Post#4 » by BigSlam » Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:31 pm

I really dig what you are doing here Seazr. Looking forward to the next 6 installments.

Good Basketball IQ
Makes His Teammates Better Players
Good Passer
Good Shot Selection
Good Floor Leadership
Coachable Player
Durability
Good Locker Room Guy
Good Defender-One on One
Good Defender-Disruptor
Good Shot Percentage-Inside the Arc
Good Shot Percentage-3 Pointers
Good Free Throw Shooter
Has Good Forward Speed
Has Good Lateral Speed
Good Transition Player
Good at Boxing Out in the Lane
Plays Well Without the Ball
Good Offensive End Rebounder
Good Defensive End Rebounder
Draws a Lot of Fouls
Clutch Shooter
Good Post Up Game
Good Leaping Ability
Good Practice Player
Good Citizen Off the Court


and two other items not involved in the ranking part:
Ideal Height Range: 6’1” – 6’4”
Ideal Weight Range: 185lbs – 210lbs
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Re: Building the Prototype Bobcat Player - Point Guard 

Post#5 » by Paydro70 » Mon Jun 23, 2008 1:40 pm

Forgot about ideals. Umm... well, my ideal point guard is probably 6'8" 260 pounds and still handles and runs like a guard. It's really more of how athletic someone can be at the size they are. So I guess a "realistic" answer is probably Baron Davis: 6'3" 215.
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Re: Building the Prototype Bobcat Player - Point Guard 

Post#6 » by fatlever » Mon Jun 23, 2008 4:02 pm

August Us Seazr wrote:First, a little disclaimer. It is not my intention to break this down into an indictment of Brevin Knight, Ray Felton, Jeff McInnis or any other player that has served in the position of point guard for the Bobcats. This is a build for the future exercise. (Note to mods- I consider negative comments about current players in this thread to be OFF TOPIC!) So stay focused, guys. We are building, not tearing down.


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Re: Building the Prototype Bobcat Player - Point Guard 

Post#7 » by fatlever » Mon Jun 23, 2008 5:06 pm

i added one to your list - "Hails from Europe or Argentina". That is always the most important thing in a basketball player. :lol:


Hails from Europe or Argentina
Makes His Teammates Better Players
Good Basketball IQ
Good Floor Leadership
Good Passer
Clutch Shooter
Good Shot Percentage-Inside the Arc
Coachable Player
Good Defender-One on One
Good Shot Selection
Durability
Good Free Throw Shooter
Good Locker Room Guy
Good Transition Player
Plays Well Without the Ball
Good Citizen Off the Court
Good Shot Percentage-3 Pointers
Has Good Lateral Speed
Has Good Forward Speed
Good Defender-Disruptor
Good Defensive End Rebounder
Draws a Lot of Fouls
Good Practice Player
Good Post Up Game
Good at Boxing Out in the Lane
Good Leaping Ability
Good Offensive End Rebounder
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Re: Building the Prototype Bobcat Player - Point Guard 

Post#8 » by Rich4114 » Mon Jun 23, 2008 7:41 pm

Good Floor Leadership
Makes His Teammates Better Players
Good Basketball IQ
Good Passer
Clutch Shooter
Durability
Good Shot Selection
Coachable Player
Good Free Throw Shooter
Good Locker Room Guy
Good Defender-One on One
Good Defender-Disruptor
Good Transition Player
Good Shot Percentage-Inside the Arc
Good Shot Percentage-3 Pointers
Good Free Throw Shooter
Has Good Forward Speed
Has Good Lateral Speed
Good Transition Player
Draws a Lot of Fouls
Good Citizen Off the Court
Good Post Up Game
Good Leaping Ability
Good Practice Player
Good at Boxing Out in the Lane
Plays Well Without the Ball
Good Offensive End Rebounder
Good Defensive End Rebounder

I'd also add good penetrator and creative playmaker to the list if given the opportunity.
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Re: Building the Prototype Bobcat Player - Point Guard 

Post#9 » by August Us Seazr » Tue Jun 24, 2008 3:45 am

[quote="fatlever"]i added one to your list - "Hails from Europe or Argentina". That is always the most important thing in a basketball player. :lol:


Hails from Europe or Argentina


George Carlin LIVES! :lol: Who said all of your jokes just went out the window. That was funny. True, but funny!

I will be posting my list tomorrow.
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