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G Wallace

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 12:33 pm
by cedric76
is he healthy?
why people want to trade him?

Re: G Wallace

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:09 pm
by Bassman
Wallace is a stud, and yes he's perfectly healthy. No one WANTS to trade him, but he is the most valuable trade chip we have (short of J-Rich who is not an option). Therefore any potential deals for significant players often involve speculative trades with Crash included. Fact is Brown sees Wallace, Felton and J-Rich as his key leaders on this team, with Okafor as the foundation block. Our need for a starting PF is significant. If we could aquire one with players other than those mentioned (and stay healthy) we would have a serious run towards the playoffs.

Re: G Wallace

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:13 pm
by Felton for Pres
People don't really WANT to trade him. He has the most trade value on our team given his contract. We are in such dire need of an athletic PF, folks around here have become reluctantly willing to part with him for the right player.

I don't think anyone here has bad things to say about Crash, outside of his appropriate nickname. However, the team has a need and we have some (keyword: some) depth at the 3 spot. I'd love for management to figure out some way to bring in some size without losing him, but I don't expect that to happen.

Re: G Wallace

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 1:20 pm
by cedric76
thx,i though he was still injured

Re: G Wallace

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 3:06 pm
by countryboi
Felton for Pres wrote:People don't really WANT to trade him. He has the most trade value on our team given his contract. We are in such dire need of an athletic PF, folks around here have become reluctantly willing to part with him for the right player.

I don't think anyone here has bad things to say about Crash, outside of his appropriate nickname. However, the team has a need and we have some (keyword: some) depth at the 3 spot. I'd love for management to figure out some way to bring in some size without losing him, but I don't expect that to happen.


only way we do that is to show case morrison or may for the first part of the season and then ship one of them to a team that think they still have potential.

Re: G Wallace

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 4:00 pm
by fluffernutter
I've watched GWall a long time, and my major concern is, yes, health.

One more concussion and he might be done for the year. One more after that, maybe done forever on the basketball court. Concussions stack up in nasty ways like that. He makes me nervous watching him play.

The other issue: integrating him in the team. I've never really been sold on GWall as a good team player. Maybe it is because our coaches have just sucked. Quite possible. But he's pretty poor at passing, and does not have a good sense for when to take it "1 vs 1 or 2 or 3" vs. swinging it to the other side, drive and dish, etc.

I love the guy, and if Larry Brown and fit his style of play into the team concept, he will be great.

If he stays healthy.

Re: G Wallace

Posted: Mon Aug 18, 2008 5:55 pm
by Rich4114
Fluffer pretty much hit it on the head for how I look at the situation too. The one thing other than his health that worries me about Wallace is his ability to fit into a team concept. He's best utilized offensively if we put him in the post (higher risk of concussion) or run isolation plays for him. He's sort of a high risk, high reward type of player on a pretty nice contract for what you get. If we didn't have the depth we do at the 3 (J-Rich, Ammo, Dudley) then I wouldn't really want to trade him. However, since we need a quality PF so bad, he would be the most valuable trade asset that is most replacable using our current players.

We could move J-Rich to SF and use Carroll as a SG, we could keep J-Rich at SG and use Dudley or Ammo as a SF, etc. One thing I know we can't do though is use Wallace as a PF and is May isn't healthy this season then that's what's going to happen.

There's also some high profile PF's out there we could potentially pickup for Crash - like a Boozer or Odom. If we replaced Wallace with a player like that, we're more fit to compete. In the NBA, strong PG play and dominating big men win. I think we've got a strong PG (Felton + DJ) and we've got a dominating DEFENSIVE big man in Okafor, but there's that missing element of a dominating offensive big man if May can't bring it.

Re: G Wallace

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 12:37 am
by BobsBuddy
:eek1: :droop: :eek2: :meditate: :noway: :banghead: This isn't going to be a popular post .....but sometimes the truth hurts. Wallace is an outstanding player and.. if he was on a contender like Detroit, LA. Utah,Phoenix, Boston, Dallas, San Antonio, Chicago etc I don't think the "crash and Burn" factor might be so high with them as with the Bobcats. Don't take me wrong Gerald is definitely a core player here and overall a good person. Its just that he too oftenrisks his own well being and future value to our team when he goes in for a "highlight" play of the game. Hes worth 60 million but not long term to us. I thought for sure by now Larry Mj and Bob would have traded him for a veteran 4. I hope they do because I don't want to be there the night they carry Gerald out on a stretcher off the court for the last time.

Re: G Wallace

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 12:52 am
by EventHorizon
Would you be interested in trading him to the Raptors for a veteran or two?

Re: G Wallace

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 1:07 pm
by BigSlam
EventHorizon wrote:Would you be interested in trading him to the Raptors for a veteran or two?

Would you be interested in trading Bosh for a veteran or two?

Re: G Wallace

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:01 pm
by spectre_
BigSlam wrote:
EventHorizon wrote:Would you be interested in trading him to the Raptors for a veteran or two?

Would you be interested in trading Bosh for a veteran or two?


Hmmm...Bosh = veteran, Crash = veteran, Hammer = veteran.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/features/t ... &te=&cash=

Re: G Wallace

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 2:59 pm
by ohara
I'd jump on it. But I dont think Raptors will.

Re: G Wallace

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 3:16 pm
by fluffernutter
Yeah, it was a joke.

After these Olympics, Bosh is going nowhere, probably ever.

Re: G Wallace

Posted: Thu Aug 28, 2008 6:43 pm
by EventHorizon
I thought J Rich was your franchise not Wallace.

Re: G Wallace

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 7:35 am
by SteveMorrison15
EventHorizon wrote:I thought J Rich was your franchise not Wallace.


Morrison is the franchise player.

Re: G Wallace

Posted: Fri Aug 29, 2008 10:46 pm
by fatlever
SteveMorrison15 wrote:
EventHorizon wrote:I thought J Rich was your franchise not Wallace.


Morrison is the franchise player.


amen brother. AMMO is back and he's taking names.... get on board choo choo

Re: G Wallace

Posted: Sat Aug 30, 2008 4:42 pm
by Pointguard#1
You tell em Fats. Kidds are sleeping on Ammo. He struggled before, because he was a rookie thrown into a position that would have been difficult for anyone. Now that he will no longer be the focus of the defenses he is going to be torching dukes.

Re: G Wallace

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 5:50 pm
by Paydro70
Hmm... as usual, I have trouble telling when someone is being sarcastic about Ammo or not. Personally in my head everyone's always kidding, but I guess I know they aren't.

Re: G Wallace

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 10:55 pm
by fluffernutter
Paydro70 wrote:Hmm... as usual, I have trouble telling when someone is being sarcastic about Ammo or not. Personally in my head everyone's always kidding, but I guess I know they aren't.


Hope, you know. Hope. It's really all we have left.