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Bobcats Season preview. 

Post#1 » by SeabassP » Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:35 pm

Whats up everyone, over at my blog, I posted a season preview for the Charlotte Bobcats, just wanted to get Bobcats' fans' take:

http://halfcourtheave.com/2008/10/15/hch-team-previews-charlotte-bobcats/

Oh and added Bonus, there is a D.J. Augustin hazing pic...a pretty good one.
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Post#2 » by Felton for Pres » Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:39 pm

Couldn't disagree more about the coaching. LB is night and day compared with Vincent and that will only cause things to get better. I'm not saying he'll get us in the playoffs, but I certainly do not expect us to regress.
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Post#3 » by SeabassP » Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:47 pm

Felton for Pres wrote:Couldn't disagree more about the coaching. LB is night and day compared with Vincent and that will only cause things to get better. I'm not saying he'll get us in the playoffs, but I certainly do not expect us to regress.


I totally understand your point, and this is kinda why I posted it here, im no where near Charlotte so I haven't seen too many press confrences of Larry's this offseason, Im just going on reputation, and the reputation is he is VERY tough on young players. I think its going to be like this though...if it works out, it will really work out (fighting for the 8 seed) if it doesn't they will bomb (regress). Thanks for your opinion!
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Re: Bobcats Season preview. 

Post#4 » by BigSlam » Thu Oct 16, 2008 6:48 pm

Worst preview ever.
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Post#5 » by SeabassP » Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:04 pm

BigSlam wrote:Worst preview ever.


You mind backing up your opinion? Not trying to be hostile, just curious...
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Re: Bobcats Season preview. 

Post#6 » by fatlever » Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:17 pm

not really much of a preview. you only mention one player (wallace) and spend the rest of the time making cliche statements about larry.

if we regress, it wont be due to coaching. sam vincent was the worst coach in the league has season and we're not just saying that as delusional fans.

give us some real reasons why you think we will only win 28 games.
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Post#7 » by Walt Cronkite » Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:26 pm

I'm tired of bringing it up, so I won't go too in depth, but it's a misconception to claim that Brown has been tough on young/talented players. Whenever he's had a young player with talent that deserved to play, they've played. He doesn't play youngsters that can't contribute though.
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Post#8 » by SeabassP » Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:28 pm

fatlever wrote:not really much of a preview. you only mention one player (wallace) and spend the rest of the time making cliche statements about larry.

if we regress, it wont be due to coaching. sam vincent was the worst coach in the league has season and we're not just saying that as delusional fans.

give us some real reasons why you think we will only win 28 games.


Hey man thanks for the input, like I said, im looking for ways to improve these...I was going for the quick hitting type of previews, but I guess I was going about it the wrong way. As for coaching I know Sam Vincent was TERRIBLE and Larry is a great coach, but if it doesn't mesh it usually doesn't end well i.e. NY (Though the Knicks handled it terribly.) So I think my stuff about Larry wasn't really cliche. Also his coaching style is breaking you down (another reason i think your team will regress) before building up and usually the third year he is with a team is the "breakthrough" year.

As far as personel, you guys have a solid players in three spots (Felton, Emeka, & Wallace) but nobody else really. J-Rich is terribly overrated in my opinion (just my opinion) and with no solid bench (Dudly could be a spark) you guys will be outmatched most games (it is my opinion that bench play plays a huuuuge roll most games).

Again, this is just my opinon, please keep this going, I am enjoying this debate and would like to hear from you guys some more!
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Re: Bobcats Season preview. 

Post#9 » by SeabassP » Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:35 pm

Walt Cronkite wrote:I'm tired of bringing it up, so I won't go too in depth, but it's a misconception to claim that Brown has been tough on young/talented players. Whenever he's had a young player with talent that deserved to play, they've played. He doesn't play youngsters that can't contribute though.


That could very well be true, but I also think that Larry looks down on rookies...just my opinion though...
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Post#10 » by Walt Cronkite » Thu Oct 16, 2008 7:55 pm

Nate Robinson, Channing Frye and David Lee got a TON of minutes. Lee should've gotten more, but I feel pretty confident with the assessment that LB played so many different lineups in an attempt to show Dolan how terribly misconstructed Isiah's Knicks were. John Salmons got a lot of minutes behind Iverson/McKie/Snow and Buckner. Speedy Claxton got loads of minutes(~23pg). Jumaine Jones got a lot of minutes at age 21 (year 2) on an NBA Finals caliber team. Larry Hughes got nearly 1000 minutes as a 20 year old rookie in the lockout year and a year later repeated the feat in as many games before being traded. A 20 year old rookie Tim Thomas played almost 1800 minutes next to 22 year old sophomore Allen Iverson (3150 minutes). A sophomore Travis Best played +2000 minutes on a team that featured a rookie season Erick Dampier playing 1000 minutes.

Seriously, continue if you'd like but I just presented you with data from a little over a decade proving my point. Your opinion is based on Darko not getting minutes on 2 NBA Finals teams--one of which won the title...
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Re: Bobcats Season preview. 

Post#11 » by BigSlam » Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:49 pm

SeabassP wrote:
BigSlam wrote:Worst preview ever.

You mind backing up your opinion? Not trying to be hostile, just curious...

Looks like you have put no time, thought or reseach into your subject matter and instead have thrown together a very short piece that isn't informative, insightful, thought provoking, interesting or even humorous.

It was pretty much a waste of time reading something with such little substance. It's like you are a 12 year old kid who had 4 weeks to do a project for school and instead of giving it the time it deserves and requires, you spent 3 weeks and 6 days looking at how captivating paint drying is and then on the morning your project is due in, you threw something together using as much haste as possible.

Maybe I'm being harsh on you, but by nature of you coming here and tooting your own blogs horn, you are going to be compared with others who have done the same thing and this is the sort of standard you are going up against:

viewtopic.php?f=53&t=840422

and to be totally honest, your piece doesn't hold a candle to something like that.
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Re: Bobcats Season preview. 

Post#12 » by fatlever » Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:17 am

like i mentioned, i'm ok with anyone predicting we will only win 28 games as long as they back it up with some solid points.

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why the bobcats will only win 28 games

pg: it will take a few months before larry brown figures out that felton is the same player he has been for the past 3 years. ray has shown no real improvement in terms of decision making, shooting, leadership or shot selection. felton excels in pick and roll situations where he can attack the rim but he falters any time he is asked to run an offense that requires him to get others the ball in certain spots. dj is a rookie and will take several months or even a year before he is ready to start and even then, dj will be a liability on defense.

sg: jrich will be asked to drive more and play better defense this season, two things that are not his strengths. he posted career highs in 3pt % and ft % last season. the bobcats are hoping the increased percentages are not an aberation. carroll has struggled in the preseason and carroll off the bench does not provide the type of energy, ball handling and defense to compliment jrich.

sf: wallace is more effective as a pf, but he's also one concussion away from eating soup for the rest of the year. at sf wallace is asked to play more on the perimeter where his lack of handles, passing and jumper are a problem. wallace is at his best when he is aggressive and attacks the rim on isos and fast breaks, but when asked to play within a deliberate half-court offense wallace often tends to fade away, making bad passes and taking too many 3s. behind wallace, the bobcats have adam morrison who quite possibly the worst player in the team's rotation but as a former top 3 pick brown will be under pressure to play him or trade him. look for the latter to occur at some point.

pf: the bobcats are counting on may at pf which is a huge mistake. may wont be able to play more than 50 games and even then he is so out of shape that he cant seem to play more than 20 minutes w/out losing steam. may is also a poor defender and an average rebounder. behind may the bobcats have a bunch of soft unproven youngsters.

c: okafor, like felton, has shown little improvement as a bobcat. his offense is limited to close range baskets, put even then, okafor has a bad habbit of going up soft. he is among the lead leaders in getting his shot blocked. defensively okafor struggles to guard quicker players as well as bigger more powerful players. he has the speed of a center in the body of a power forward.

rebounding: the bobcats are a bad rebounding team and they have done nothing to improve this area of their team. okafor is the only reliable rebounder in the frontcourt.

coaching: brown is light years better than vincent but it will take time for the players to pick up his system. the bobcats are not the knicks. they will work hard and listen, but even then it might not be enough to win games. brown will most likely ask for a few trades in order to get a team that matches his style a little better.

intangibles: the bobcats play for an apathetic fan base which has been slow to support the team. given the current financial climate it will be hard for the bobcats to put fans in the seats until they start winning, which might not be this year. dont expect much of home court advantage from the fans.

overall: the bobcats are built around finese players, which contrast with what brown wants to do. it might take a year or so before brown can get dj up to speed at pg, get jrich to player tougher, trade morrison or carroll, find a tough rebounder at power forward and figure how to best utilize okafor on offense. until these things happen, expect some growing pains to occur under larry. the bobcats are in a better position this year than they were last year, but it might not show in the standings.
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Post#13 » by Paydro70 » Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:57 am

Well, Fats pretty much summed it up... there are a crapload of reasons why the Bobcats might fail, but even if Brown is a total implosion he cannot be worse than Sam Vincent. If your preview has exactly one point, and it's extremely dubious, you will get harsh reactions.
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Re: Bobcats Season preview. 

Post#14 » by doc.end » Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:30 pm

Troll, Knicks fan or ... something even worse.

I don't think I should write more as an answer to this "preview".
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