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DAL-CHA trade

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 10:58 pm
by taiyed
Thoughts on this?

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Due to Dallas, Minnesota, Toronto and Charlotte being over the cap, the 25% trade rule is invoked. Dallas, Minnesota, Toronto and Charlotte had to be no more than 125% plus $100,000 of the salary given out for the trade to be accepted, which did happen here. This trade satisfies the provisions of the Collective Bargaining Agreement.
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Dallas Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players
Rashad McCants
Andrea Bargnani
Sean May
Raymond Felton
Adam Morrison

Outgoing Players
Dirk Nowitzki

Minnesota Trade Breakdown

Incoming Players
Gerald Wallace

Outgoing Players
Rodney Carney
Rashad McCants
Corey Brewer
Randy Foye

Toronto Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players
Corey Brewer
Randy Foye

Outgoing Players
Andrea Bargnani

Charlotte Trade Breakdown
Incoming Players
Dirk Nowitzki
Rodney Carney

Outgoing Players
Sean May
Raymond Felton
Adam Morrison
Gerald Wallace

Why they do it?
Dallas: They're the trickiest of the bunch, but their run is clearly over and Dirk needs to go. The trio of North Carolina players are 3 good sized expiring contracts. McCants and Felton need a change of scenary desperately. They basically have a 3/4 season tryout with the Mavs. If they succeed, they're nice young talent to lock-up. If not, they expire. Same thing goes for Morisson and Bargnani--they just get another season. All 5 players come off the books by the big 2010 FA period where the Mavs would undoubtedly be able to make a big splash and get right back in to contention. If any of the 5 suddenly decide to blossom into their potential, all the better.

Minnesota: Minnesota has a log-jam of young talent at 2/3 that has yet to really do anything. They unload these 4 young unprovens for one proven commodity. This definitely makes sense.

Toronto: They're looking for young wing players. Bargnani has been a major dissapointment thus far. In exchange, they get Corey Brewer who has a high ceiling as a defensive stopper, and Randy Foye. Foye is an excellent outside shooter and has been struggling in Minnesota trying to play the 1. In Toronto, Foye would be allowed to play his natural position, the 2, and be the nasty perimeter threat that Toronto is looking for.

Charlotte: They unload a bunch of busted picks and the redundant Wallace for a true franchise player in Dirk. With J-Rich at the 2, Dirk at the 4, Okafor at the 5 and young DJ Augustin taking over the point, they have a nice core and roster space to make future moves.

Re: DAL-CHA trade

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 11:18 pm
by amcoolio
Of course the Bobcats would do that, but there is no way Dallas, Minny, OR Toronto would do that trade.

Re: DAL-CHA trade

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:33 am
by Walt Cronkite
DONE!

Re: DAL-CHA trade

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 3:50 am
by Battery
Why would Dallas do that trade? Felton and McCants are due for new contracts next season. And if they are going with Felton then that tells their fan base they made a HUGE mistake trading Devin Harris for J Kidd. And Harris is better than Felton. Also Felton and McCants would give Dallas a small backcourt. Bargani is soft.

If Dallas trades Dirk, they need more sure things than that dysfunctional group you want to give them. At the very least if Dallas can't get good young talent back, they will need a bunch of first rounders so they can reshape their team.

For our team, Dirk only makes us marginally better right now because we still need someone to get him the ball. The jury is still out on Augustin. And Dirk is soft on defense.

Re: DAL-CHA trade

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:01 am
by Paydro70
It is totally hilarious to suggest that this trade would not be the best thing ever to happen to the Bobcats franchise. Dirk doesn't have to be "hard" on defense (not that he's a bad defender by any means), Emeka would be guarding any bangers. All Dirk has to do is score and rebound.

Of course, no one else would agree to this trade except perhaps Toronto.

Re: DAL-CHA trade

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:08 am
by fatlever
dj, jrich, dudley, dirk, okafor

sign me up.

Re: DAL-CHA trade

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 6:55 am
by Rich4114
oh wow, yeah I'm in. We'd need to find some warm bodies somewhere so we can have a full roster though.

Re: DAL-CHA trade

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 4:12 pm
by taiyed
amcoolio wrote:Of course the Bobcats would do that, but there is no way Dallas, Minny, OR Toronto would do that trade.


Being a Minnesota fan, we would definitely, definitely do that.

Why would Toronto not? I think it makes the most sense for them.

Battery wrote:Why would Dallas do that trade? Felton and McCants are due for new contracts next season. And if they are going with Felton then that tells their fan base they made a HUGE mistake trading Devin Harris for J Kidd. And Harris is better than Felton. Also Felton and McCants would give Dallas a small backcourt. Bargani is soft.

If Dallas trades Dirk, they need more sure things than that dysfunctional group you want to give them. At the very least if Dallas can't get good young talent back, they will need a bunch of first rounders so they can reshape their team.

For our team, Dirk only makes us marginally better right now because we still need someone to get him the ball. The jury is still out on Augustin. And Dirk is soft on defense.


Expiring contracts. Hello? Read the breakdown. They would definitely not be retaining the entire group. Any one that breaks out, they think about it. They either get a bunch of young, break-out talent, a tonage of cap space going into the best FA signing period in history or a combo of both.

Re: DAL-CHA trade

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2008 5:40 pm
by doc.end
So our roster would loook like

DJ- S.Brown
J-Rich - Carroll
Dudley - Carney, Johnson
Nowitzki - A.Brown, Ajinça
Okafor - Mohammed, Hollins

Does it work in trade checkers?

Re: DAL-CHA trade

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:21 pm
by punee_25
NO WAY would we do that trade you kidding me we (toronto) would not give such a rising star such as bargani for foye and corey brewer we allready have calderon and who the **** is corey brewer some scrub?

Re: DAL-CHA trade

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 5:41 pm
by fatlever
punee_25 wrote:and who the **** is corey brewer some scrub?


not that i am some big corey brewer fan or anything, but is that a serious question? if you answered yes, then your basketball credibility just went into the toilet.

Re: DAL-CHA trade

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 6:43 pm
by Pointguard#1
Fats whoever that person was his basketball credibility went into the toilet the second he hit submit on that intelligent post.

Re: DAL-CHA trade

Posted: Sat Nov 15, 2008 7:04 pm
by fatlever
hey pointguard, havent seen you around in ages.