Augustin who will start when J-Rich is back

[amcoolio]

Augustin? or Felton?


To me its a no brainer....and...felton is gone, because his gigantic ego will never let him come off the bench.

Good game tonight tho Ray.

[Rich4114]

Brown will start Felton, he trusts him more with the ball. DJ is playing great lately, but Brown is not going to start him over Felton. If someone wants to give us a quality PF for one of them plus a backup PG I don't think anyone will complain. But until then, it's Felton as starter.

Also, Felton only has an ego according to this board. I haven't ever really seen him do or say much that could give him an ego label.

We'll certainly see plenty of the Felton + DJ back court when J-Rich or Wallace rest, but let's not get crazy here.

[BigSlam]

What on Earth would possess you to say that Felts has a gigantic ego????

He might try too hard at times for what he thinks is the good of the team to a point of fault, but I read him as having nothing even close to a gigantic ego.

[spectre_]

It would be easy to assume Raymond Felton feels threatened by rookie D.J. Augustin starting. Just the opposite is true, based on his actions. Felton is using more of his energy on defense now that Augustin can pick up some scoring and playmaking duties. Felton’s seven steals and nine rebounds versus the Bucks define hustle.

Bonnell's blog.

Coolio has gotten into the habit of declaring a lot of things as "fact" lately. I kind of hate that.

Who knows who'll end up starting. DJ is pretty damn good and I think his shot will be way more consistent. Felton has been looking real comfortable, esp. in this game. As someone mentioned in another thread going 3 players at 2 positions for most of the minutes should keep everyone satisfied. Not to mention Swish can play some 3 as well.

Either way, this is what I envisioned when we first brought DJ in; a strong PG duo that can learn and work off each other. Bought time we had some quality depth at one position and I'm not ready to give up on that.

[ohara]

I actually think they both start. I see it as DJ, Ray, J-Rich, Crash and Okafor. I just think that they present a problem for opposing defenses. That said, would not surprise me at all if all this talk regarding trading for a PF puts Ray up on the block since we didn't get takers for Crash. I think DJ is so far ahead of the learning curve that LB will have the faith in turning the reins over to him if we get a quality PF and decent reserve PG out of the deal. Likely would add Ammo or Carroll to any deal of Ray if that is what happens. But LB may just plan to play them together a while and see what a smaller lineup brings us once J-Rich returns.

[CarolinaCash]

No matter who starts I finally feel good about a draft pick. I thought Augustin was a very good pick bc he understands the point guard position and he can shoot (the anti Felton). If Felton improves and learns the game under Brown then even better. The last two years in my opinion we did well in getting JRich and Augustin threw the draft. Morrison will be a factor IMO if we keep him. I say we trade Wallace and Carroll if we good some good bigs. Also, I would trade Okafor the second the team can.

[DaBassSource]

Yeah I hate when people say things like Ray has an ego problem when he has NEVER had any issues with ego!!! Please don't pull stuff out of your arse...make a point and keep moving...

As for the question... I think Ray will continue to start with both on the court for long periods of time. Like others have said if a deal that gives us a quality big and a servicable backup PG then Ray is probably gone... I think Ray's over all game is under appreciated by a lot of people on the board while he is nothing like CP3 he could turn out to be a very good PG under LB...Which would make him great trade bait.

[amcoolio]

Sorry I've had a really crappy night. gf left me.

Felton just comes across as a guy who will sulk on the bench, like he did under Bickerstaff. He also was quoted to saying "I am the point guard of this team. no one else" 99 percent sure of it.

Felton has picked it up, but I don' thtink it will work out. I'd say we still get the best value out of it.

[CarolinaCash]

amcoolio.......what happen to the girlfriend?

[amcoolio]

not for talk here. i'm sorry for making this hate thread. LOL

[CarolinaCash]

I'll call Sean May up if you want to drink your sorrows away and then go to the Uptown Cabaret for some dances........never mind I forgot that he now is a VIP client at the Gold Club on Old Pineville Rd.

[Felton for Pres]

To me, the more interesting question is: who is in at the end of the game? I don't think that question is as clear cut. I think Felton will almost certainly start, but is he on the court at the end? Eh...not so sure. That's probably when we put Crash at the 4 and have both play.

[BigSlam]

To me, the more interesting question is: who is in at the end of the game? I don't think that question is as clear cut. I think Felton will almost certainly start, but is he on the court at the end? Eh...not so sure. That's probably when we put Crash at the 4 and have both play.

Really good point FFP. I'd also like to see both of them on the court in the final min or so of each qtr.

[DaBassSource]

To me, the more interesting question is: who is in at the end of the game? I don't think that question is as clear cut. I think Felton will almost certainly start, but is he on the court at the end? Eh...not so sure. That's probably when we put Crash at the 4 and have both play.

Really good point FFP. I'd also like to see both of them on the court in the final min or so of each qtr.

Ray, DJ and Ammo makes for a good offensive end of quarter attack

[ohara]

When you calculate in tonights numbers, DJ will be about 12.5 pts and 4.3 assists per game. Pretty darn impressive for a kid in only his 13th game and his 4th in the starting lineup. That said, that youngster Rose in Chicago is nailing down 18.5 pts and 5.5 assists. That's just sick. From the illustrious draft a few years ago, Deron Williams is just a hair below CP3. Maybe DJ turns out to be just a hair below Rose. I'd be very very happy with that outcome.

[fatlever]

felton will start, but maybe LB slides crash to PF and starts both. doesnt matter DJ will play 30mpg and be on the floor in the 4th quarter (ususally with felton, jrich, crash and okafor).

[BobsBuddy]

There is talk on Clipper board and on espn news about a Kamen for Richardson
trade. *If this is true and Mobiley passes his physical with Knicks , the bobcats could be big winners if they sign Tinsley.
Augustine/Tinsley
Felton/Brown/Carroll
Wallace/Morrison/ Dudley
Kamen/ajinica/Jones/May
Okafore/nazr/hollins
Can play Felton at 1 or 2. Hes shown he is best as an undersized 2 with speed, defense and shooting ability
Still have Wallace that can be traded later in season for 2009 1st rounded and solid player from contender.and we are creating more cap space

[Vanderbilt_Grad]

As I said elsewhere Kamen just ins't nearly as good as JRich. Hands down JRich is the Cat's best player. It just wouldn't make sense for them to make a trade involving him even with the recent injury.

Tinsley is a poor fit for Brown.

The Cats and Clips have had discussions about what it would take to trade Kamen. I'm also sure that some Clips folks WANT JRich ... and may have even asked for him. But I'm also positive that the Cat's wouldn't bite on that particular "offer."

[BigSlam]

When you calculate in tonights numbers, DJ will be about 12.5 pts and 4.3 assists per game. Pretty darn impressive for a kid in only his 13th game and his 4th in the starting lineup. That said, that youngster Rose in Chicago is nailing down 18.5 pts and 5.5 assists. That's just sick. From the illustrious draft a few years ago, Deron Williams is just a hair below CP3. Maybe DJ turns out to be just a hair below Rose. I'd be very very happy with that outcome.

In the last week DJ has averaged:
21pts (on 50%, 82% and 2.5 threes a game)
3.5 boards
6.5 assists
1 steal
1.5 turn overs

[misterglover]

As I said elsewhere Kamen just ins't nearly as good as JRich. Hands down JRich is the Cat's best player. It just wouldn't make sense for them to make a trade involving him even with the recent injury.

Tinsley is a poor fit for Brown.

The Cats and Clips have had discussions about what it would take to trade Kamen. I'm also sure that some Clips folks WANT JRich ... and may have even asked for him. But I'm also positive that the Cat's wouldn't bite on that particular "offer."

OHHH do I beg to differ....if you ever read almost anything Ive posted then its obvious that I am not a big JRich fan and I for one would do a Kaman/JRich trade in a second if they are the only components of substance...meaning we dont have to include anyone else of our core(Felton, Crash, DJ, Emeka, Ammo, Ajinca). Kaman adds a post presence that this team has never had with both him and Emeka down low thats gonna create double teams which creates open shots for DJ, Felton, Ammo & Carroll. We would lose JRich scoring but on this team Kaman would be good for around 15pts 12rbs a night, that also frees up minutes for LB's new pet project of playing the 2 Pg's together more and frees up more minutes for Ammo, Carroll & Shannon Brown who I think can be a steal considering what we got him for if he can get more time on the floor plus Carroll & Ammo are shooters that have to have time to get a rhythm & a flow. If we get 15 & 12 outta Kaman, Carroll, Ammo & Brown all increase the PPG by just 3 pts per game than what do we really lose?? we actually gain in terms of rebounding, available playing time & post presence......

If theres any truth to this rumor sign me up quick & get it done!!!

BTW...I just did this exact trade on NBA 2k9...JRich & Dudley for Kaman & Hart and Im on a 5 gm win streak