Comparing DJ's stats with other Rookies

ohara · Post #1 » by **ohara** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 3:53 am

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/stats/bycat ... ualified=2

This young man is going to be a steal at #9 when it's all said and done. He is 4th in scoring and 2nd in assists. And he's only getting better. Very very good pick by LB and the FO.

doc.end · Post #2 » by **doc.end** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:09 am

I think his real FG% is actually a bit higher because a lot of those missed shots are kind of half layups putted near basket for a teammate to just tip in. Not that he is trying to miss these but I guess he would not go for these shots if a teammate wasn't at place.

Everyone who wanted Lopez over Augustin should slap himself/herself.

Post #3 » by **Paydro70** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:10 am

Here's a better list: http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/hollinge ... onType%3d2

We'll see about "steal," because it's not as if the guys picked in front of DJ aren't doing well.... Rose and Mayo are studs, Beasley and Love are playing well if not quite as well as immediately expected, and Westbrook is doing basically what DJ does but with better defense and a higher ceiling. If Gordon starts taking off with his new playing time there might only be 2 guys who clearly shouldn't have gone ahead of DJ.

Still, it's obvious we didn't botch the pick, we got a guy who looks to be a very good player.

ohara · Post #4 » by **ohara** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:12 am

Well, I questioned whether we should not have taken Lopez. And 9.3 pts and 7.5 reb is quite respectable for a Rookie. He's no slouch and will be a solid player. But I definitely did not see the potential that LB saw in DJ so I am very very happy. I happily admit I was wrong.

doc.end · Post #5 » by **doc.end** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:13 am

I've just noticed that Kyle Weaver is averaging 2.1 asissts in less than 7 mpg. Wow.

Post #6 » by **Paydro70** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 4:13 am

I wouldn't go too crazy about Augustin over Lopez... Lopez is at 15 PER himself, and is already out-rebounding Al Horford. He could be a really good player for a long time.

Now the pundits who had us taking Anthony Randolph... THEY can slap themselves.

countryboi · Post #7 » by **countryboi** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 12:20 pm

to be fair to Anthony Randolph i dont think he is getting a fair shot with the warriors.....put that with the fact he is like tyrus thomas 2.0....i think it was clear his rookie season was not going to be a barn burner

Post #8 » by **BigSlam** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 2:29 pm

Paydro70 wrote:Now the pundits who had us taking Anthony Randolph... THEY can slap themselves.

It's Nellie that should be slapped, not the people that liked Randolph. I still would have done anything to try and move up to #14 from #20 to take him instead of Lex in a nano second.

And I don't mind Lex.

Rich4114 · Post #9 » by **Rich4114** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 7:56 pm

I didn't have a problem with the DJ pick at the time, and it's promising to see a pick really looking like something early on for us finally. I do have a problem with picking Alexis over Aurther though. We needed a damn PF who could play right away so what do we do? Pick a project foriegn dude whose legs are as thin as my pinkies.

Post #10 » by **BigSlam** » Sun Dec 14, 2008 9:12 pm

Arthur isn't ready to play either and Lex has about a zillion times the potential than Arthur has.

I'm fine with what we did at #20.

H00PSTER · Post #11 » by **H00PSTER** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 1:00 am

I've been a fan of this guy since his freshman year at Texas. How does his defense look?

dmutombo321 · Post #12 » by **dmutombo321** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 2:16 am

His fundamentals are great. On the occasions where he does get beat though, it can usually be attributed to an opposing guard just being taller / bigger / more physical

Rich4114 · Post #13 » by **Rich4114** » Mon Dec 15, 2008 6:22 am

BigSlam wrote:Arthur isn't ready to play either and Lex has about a zillion times the potential than Arthur has.

I'm fine with what we did at #20.

Aurthur has a bit to go but at least he's got an NBA body and can bang down low. Lex is a project, believe me I hope he pans out but I'm having a hard time seeing it to be honest.

Dexmor · Post #14 » by **Dexmor** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 3:20 pm

We did screw up the 20th pick.
When it is all said and done I think DJ will be the 5th best player in this draft which is good since he went 9th but Lopez is arguably better. He has a shot to be a franchise Center.
I think the order will be

Rose
Mayo-Could be Mayo first though
Beasley
Lopez
DJ

e4Nf6 · Post #15 » by **e4Nf6** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:31 pm

Lopez is a nice player but I don't think he will ever score enough to be a "Franchise" center. His ceiling is Chris Kaman or Andrew Bogut or somebody like that. (Which is still great, don't get me wrong) DJ on the other hand could be a super-star. Darrel Arthur would have been okay at 20, and certainly better than Lex this year, but I don't mind gambling a bit when all you're giving up is Darrel Arthur.

Arthur's rebounding and defense could have been useful on this team but he brings nothing offensively. He is what Andre Brown would be if he didn't turn the ball over so much. As for his "NBA body" Lex is (according to the roster anyway) all of 5 pounds lighter and 3 inches taller. (It's probably more like 4 or 5, but that's what the roster says) It's hard to say but I think Arthur is only a little faster than Lex, if at all. And that extra wing-span makes up for speed.

Dexmor · Post #16 » by **Dexmor** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:44 pm

Did you say DJ could be a superstar? How many superstars are 5'10? What about in league history?
Come on.
Lopez will be better then Kaman and Bogut imo. Maybe even next year.
e4Nf6 how could you defend Lex. Come on. The guy is a joke. He will probably be out of the league after his contract is up.

Post #17 » by **BigSlam** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 4:46 pm

What makes Lex such a joke?

e4Nf6 · Post #18 » by **e4Nf6** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 5:22 pm

DJ is listed at 6'0 incidentally and I have no reason not to believe that.

Just off the top of my head:

Chris Paul 6'0
Alan Iverson 6'0
Tony Parker 6'2
TJ Ford 6'0
Jordan Farmer 6'2
Isaiah Thomas 6'1
John Stockton 6'1
Nate Archibald 6'1
Mark Jackson 6'1

If you move the bar up to 6'3 I could name 80% of the good PG's ever...

6'0 is a little short for a PG but not ridiculous....

And how is a 20 year old rookie a joke because he hasn't set the world on fire, do you remember what Andrew Bynum or Jermaine O'neil did in their first years in the league? Give him a year or two to learn before he is a "joke,"

freakon0mics · Post #19 » by **freakon0mics** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:21 pm

DJ has potential but I wouldn't anoint him to being an all-star or even a superstar. He's that type of player that can become an all-star when the team is winning. I'm talking about a winning team that is like 5 to 10 games over .500 not a team that is barely hovering over .500. All that said, I love the young fella already. He plays with heart and is understanding the pro game pretty fast. He still make those bonehead rookie plays but he'll improve on that, especially with a coach like LB around.

Post #20 » by **fatlever** » Fri Dec 19, 2008 11:33 pm

we dont need dj to be a superstar, we just need him to be really good starting pg, who makes his teammates better.

there is no reason to think that dj cant be a top 10 pg for the next 5-8 seasons.

dj was a great pick, regardless of what lopez does in his career.