TI: For McCants

[Dexmor]

O.K. Rashard gets no pt now because of Carney. There not gonna sign him and they would surely trade him. He doesn't really have value but we need fans which is why we drafted May and Felton. Now May clearly is not gonna be resigned by us he will just be an expriring and there thinking about trading Felton which I think would be a mistake.

They can't get anything for Mccants and we still need more fan favorites and more fans espially if were thinking about trading most people's favorite Bobcat in Gerald. There are options for us to get Mccants and with us we can give him many minutes.

We can give

May-He is coming off the bobcats
Brown-Maybe Brown can crack the rotation being able to play the 1 a little bit to and if not he is coming off the books.
A second round pick

In this scenerio they get a guy who can replace Mccants and more money off the cap with a pick.

Trade 2

Lex
May

They get expiring cap room which is only a little more then Mccants but a little is better then nothing. They also get a Center who would earn minutes there with them having Collins as there center.


Both of those trades make sence for both teams. Trading for Mccants makes all the sence in the world. WIth Felton and Mccants coming off the bench for DJ and Bell instead of having a horrible backcourt we have a pretty good one.

There not gonna use him for anything more then just cap expiring and we can give them that. It makes no sence to not get him. I hope if were so stupid we don't trade for him I hope we sign him for the midlevel or part of it and we keep Felton. It would be really nice if McMay lost some weight and we were able to put Felton, McCants and May as backups. If we drafted May and Felton to get fans as a pr move which it is obvious we did why not get Mccants when it would be so easy. Im sure it would get us at least another 500 fans which makes it worth it. And the thing is we need a young talented sg and he has nice size. He is 6'4 but has a wing span of somebody 6'9 and is very very strong. He does have starter potential also.

This recent trade rumor about Felton has gotten me really upset. You never know what you have until it's gone and I really hope I don't have to fully learn that leason and see Felts on another team.

[Liver_Pooty]

Teams make trades to make the team better, not to gain fans. Last thing we need here is another Tarheel. Ajinca is probably almost as untouchable as Augustin only because we gave up a first round pick to get him. May has a decent amount of value because of his expiring contracts. We need fans, but not that bad.

[Dexmor]

Yeah but Mccants is better then any backup sg we have. MCcants averaged 10 points in 26 mins last year and 15 points the year before. Our best sg is Bell and our backup is Carroll. McCants is way better then all our backup sg's put together. Plus the bottom line is it is a good pr move and we have done it when we drafted Felton and May or do you think that was a coincedence?
The trade makes perfect sence.
Even if you take away Lex we can get it done.

[spectre_]

Yeah but Mccants is better then any backup sg we have. MCcants averaged 10 points in 26 mins last year and 15 points the year before. Our best sg is Bell and our backup is Carroll. McCants is way better then all our backup sg's put together. Plus the bottom line is it is a good pr move and we have done it when we drafted Felton and May or do you think that was a coincedence?
The trade makes perfect sence.
Even if you take away Lex we can get it done.

Personally I'd rather just give S. Brown the PT...but I agree our SG depth is pretty much crap. I don't see McCants as a solution either...the boy's head isn't exactly screwed on right and he's up and down on D.

Still, I'd give any of May, Hammer, Ammo, Nazr and/or a couple of 2nds. I'd give nothing of real value.

BTW, I don't care what school they went to so long as they can play ball.

[Liver_Pooty]

I beg to differ, and think it would be a horrible PR move. If we could get a trade done by giving up almost nothing, sure.

On the other hand we have already made enough trades, and signings for backups, hence Mohammed, and Carroll.

[Liver_Pooty]

I dont care what school they went to either, but if someone as Dexmor pointed out earlier is going to make a trade just because he is a UNC guy then that wont put more fans in the stands, but will do nothing short but make people mad.

[Dexmor]

I don't think so. Out of all the sg's on the team besides Bell he has showed the most promise. I also think they will lose no fans from it and gain some. There are still alot of nc fans that love those guys. Plus McCants is not a scrub. The guys we give up for him are.

[spectre_]

Ah, you're focusing on what Dexmor said. I usually just ignore him anyway...so that's why I confused your meaning.

It's usually all about value for me. I think McCants has more than all those guys I listed, and he'd have the chance to get some meaningful PT with us. I really don't think he'd work out, but none of those I'm willing to trade probably won't either.

Just like I don't care where someone played...I wouldn't want to be taking someone just because of where they played either. FWIW I don't think Bernie did that in '05. He was always pretty open on what he was going to do. I knew it was going to be whichever one of the 3 PGs fell and one of CV or May...and that's exactly what he did. There was a small chance he'd go with CV at 5, but then the next viable PG was Jack, and at the time there was a huge dropoff between Felton & Jack.

j/k Dexmor. You're good people.

[Liver_Pooty]

You wouldnt gain fans, but wouldnt necessarily lose fans in the process. I could care less about gaining or losing fans, but Im not a big fan of giving away expiring contracts for a thug.

[spectre_]

On the other hand we have already made enough trades, and signings for backups, hence Mohammed, and Carroll.

Are you saying we shouldn't try to upgrade the bench? Man, our bench sucks! On QCH Brett broke down the numbers since the Boris trade, and lineups featuring the starters and DJ have done very well. The bench players are the one's killing us.

[Liver_Pooty]

Eh I guess Im just letting my hatred for Mccants get the best of me. He grew up right down the street from me, and played at my highschool before eventually moving onto to a more well known school to get more recognition.

Hes just a terrible person, although his younger sister actually has some brains to go along with her athletic ability.

[Dexmor]

Well I think it couldn't hurt having the 3 players from that championship team espially since Mccants like I said before would be an upgrade.
NC is the biggest basketball state in the wold if you take out the nba so something should be able to get people to be watching. I mean don't you wish we would sell out most games and they would start to make some cash so maybe they could televise the Bobcats games like real teams do and have it televised every game instead of once a week. Chicago does once a week on cable for every state and the Cavs and Lakers are televised more on tnt and espn then the bobcats are in charlotte. They need to make a few changes and even if Mccants didn't go to nc it would be a good move.

[Rich4114]

This trade wouldn't do anything for us unless we could gain some sort of cap relief out of it.

[Dexmor]

Yes it would it would give us a young sg with potential who is weak at that position so would get plenty of pt. The kid is a scorer which is what we need.

[Dexmor]

You guys don't think there already trying to score brownie points with the whole unc theme? Do you think they hired MJ for his awesome gm skills?

[SamBone]

Plus McCants is not a scrub. The guys we give up for him are.

This is the NBA, not college. McCants was great at NC but Ammo was great at Gonzage, what does that mean today. You claim that McCants is no scrub and are backups are at that is were your argument falls apart. What has McCants done? His career numbers are not much different then Carroll.

McCants has 20.5 min per, 10 ppg, 43% from field, 37 3%, 74 ft%, 2 reb, 1.3 asts, .7 steals, 1.5 to
Carroll has 20.2 min per, 8.4 ppg, 42% from field, 40 3%, 85 ft%, 2.3 reb, .8 asts, .6 steals, .77 to

[BigSlam]

You guys don't think there already trying to score brownie points with the whole unc theme? Do you think they hired MJ for his awesome gm skills?

What are you talking about? They didn't hire MJ. He bought a large part of the team and he is not the GM.

Seriously man, sometimes I wonder what planet you are from!!

[Dexmor]

Well they let him do gm things and showcase him. Jay-Z bought some of the Nets but do you see him making moves?
And please stop with the little jabs. Come on now I told you guys from the begining I am a first year Bobcats fan so if he bought 51% of the franchise I am surprised and didn't know that. If it's a small % like im thinking like Magic has with Lakers and Jay-Z and Nellie you can clearly see a difference. You telling me Jordans not trying to be the face of the franchise for fans? Come on, maybe but I have a hard time believeing it.

[BigSlam]

You telling me Jordans not trying to be the face of the franchise for fans? Come on, maybe but I have a hard time believeing it.

Jordan has continually said he DOESN'T want to be the face of the franchise or be a part of any "dog and pony" show.

He's gone out of his way to shy away from that and it's only been this season that he's started showing up at games.

[zoned unc]

McCants is a just as well off mans joe forte.