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Who steps up? 

Post#1 » by Dexmor » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:07 pm

I believe the starting lineup will now be

DIop/Mek/Diaw/Bell/Felton

Felton will step up I am sure of it. He almost had a triple double last night.

The problem is if Mek and Diaw don't step up offensively were fcked.
This is what we get for being happy on the inside about Redd.

This starting lineup has no scoring whatsoever. DJ needs to come back, Diaw needs to step up and so does Mek and Felton must play like the man I believe he is.
Bell will probably end up averaging 18 a game which is not a good thing.
You could see a Felton for Howard swap.
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Post#2 » by fatlever » Wed Jan 28, 2009 4:12 pm

i know who wont step up... i'll give a hint. his name rhymes with WHORE IS DONE.

you guys like my new reverse psychology strategy for ammo? maybe if i talk enough crap about him on these boards it will make him play like a #3 pick.

BOOOOOOOOOOO AMMO BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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Post#3 » by Walt Cronkite » Wed Jan 28, 2009 5:26 pm

I think we'll do Felts-Bell-Diaw-Howard-Okafor tonight, but this is definitely a huge opportunity for Shannon. He's going to see an increase in minutes regardless of matchup, but when he makes his boneheaded plays what do we do? Throw Ammo to the wolves?

We really need Juwan and Diop to step up so we can use a lot of Diaw's minutes at the 3 (some phx fans are crazy, he does fine on the wing. He's most dangerous how we use him though, where he can shift in and out of the post w/o crowding someone elses game)
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Post#4 » by truthbtold21 » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:32 pm

Maybe im hopin to much or see in him what most others dont but,I see this as an opportunity for shannon aka sbeezy to step up and make a real name for himself on this team.Show LB and the FO that he can be our sg of the future,earn another contract with this team, with a coach like LB his game can go to another level.Diop needs to step up,so does suga ray and jhoward.

i couldnt agree more with your starting line-up dexmor,and you still have shannon,jhoward,nazr,and sean coming off the bench.
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Post#5 » by chrbal » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:39 pm

Good chance for Shannon Brown to show up, would be nice to think Morrison or McFatty could...but who would I be kidding?
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Post#6 » by Rich4114 » Wed Jan 28, 2009 7:49 pm

This is Ammo's chance to stop sucking so freakin bad. He's a train wreck out there and is playing with ZERO confidence at this point.
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Re: Who steps up? 

Post#7 » by Dexmor » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:48 pm

You know what is so bad, i didn't even think of Morrison stepping up. We have to be realistic not hopelessly optimistic. MJ threw away a #3 pick 3 years ago and its time to get over it.
Were close to making playoffs and should be realistic.
This is the time when we need to see if playing Mek at the 4 and Diaw at the 3 is the way to go.
This is a good time for Shannon Brown to score and step up and an opp for Felton to show he can carry a team.
Lets see if the french connection is a joke or something to be recking with. Maybe even Lexi gets some minutes because he is a scorer from what I here.
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Post#8 » by freakon0mics » Wed Jan 28, 2009 9:54 pm

Shannon Brown. He'll play a lot of minutes at the 2 while Bell would shift to the 3. This team needs Augustin back. He can spell time from both Bell and Felton.
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Post#9 » by Dexmor » Thu Jan 29, 2009 12:43 am

I would like Shannon Brown to be a hidden gem but I doubt it.
I think you want that to happen but if you put Bell at the 3 it takes away from some of his defense and well it makes us small.
If I know Larry Brown like I think I do it will be

C.Diop
PF.Mek
SF.Diaw
SG.Bell
PG.Felts

Morrison will get a chance to play he will mess it up by not playing any D and getting scored on alot and then Howard will get alot more pt.

Diop will make up for the rebounds and block shots, Diaw will be forced to score so he will, Felton like I said become the player I always hoped and wanted and will play himself into a 40 million dollar contract from us and then enter Juwan Howard.
Juwan Howard I said about 3 weeks ago is old yes but is just as good as he always was due to low miles.
He will take this advantage to play for a contract like he always does and average 10-13 points and 6 rebounds during Gerald's absence.
The Bobcats will not miss a beat as long as DJ comes back and hopefully if he is not back by the deadline we get to keep him for the rest of the year at minium.
Now I only say they won't miss a beat because the players will step up and overachive, for the long run this would be terrible if he was out for a year or something.

Everybody here will be a Raymond Felton homer by the end of Feb.
If DJ comes back at fullspeed and plays great LB just might go with a 3 guard rotation.

If Mek doesn't play good or better at the PF I believe this is a blessing in disguise because they won't trade Gerald for a crappy 5. Diop and Lexi is good enough.
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Post#10 » by JValone » Thu Jan 29, 2009 1:12 am

I'd like to believe in Ammo but realistically this is Shannon's time to shine, if anyone shines at all. He also happens to be the only option that could replace even a fraction of Crash's athleticism. I liked what I saw out of him last night. It would be nice to see him take advantage of this opportunity and get a better feel for the game so when Crash returns LB can trust him to come off the bench and provide quality rest for the starters.
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Post#11 » by Dexmor » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:26 am

Well Diop should make up for the dirty work like I said but I think there gonna come to turms with needing scoring up front so enter Juwan. Now when DJ comes back that will change and it will be his time to shine.
If DJ comes back fully I could see a starting lineup of Mek/Diaw/Bell/Felton/DJ
That is putting your best foot forward. LB also knows how to motivate people to rebound better also.
Lexi's athletism could help if he gets some pt.

I didn't realize just how important he was to the team until now.

DONT TRADE FELTON OR WALLACE.

Felton has become one of my top 5 favorite players which has made me go from a Bobcats fan by choice to bleeding orange and blue.
Even if Cuban offers Howard for him I would turn it down and hope they do to.
DJ is not meant to be a starter with his small body. He can't take the contact.
He is meant to be more like a Jason Terry off the bench or Bobby Jackson but with play making skills.
On a Larry Brown team it wouldn't hurt to have 2 awesome pg's and a pforward espially with no go to guy who can take over games with offense. This can make up for that until we get that guy.
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Post#12 » by Walt Cronkite » Thu Jan 29, 2009 4:38 am

Can the DJ is fragile talk stop, please? He's had what, a twisted ankle (that he played through, just not very well) and now an abdominal strain that he's missed time for. This is like when outsiders argue that Okafor is injury prone. Let's wait until there's something reoccurring, okay? Fair?
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Post#13 » by Dexmor » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:36 pm

Well he sprained his ankle 2x and when your that small you need to hit the weigt room. If he does and comes back next year bigger then I will surely stop.
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Post#14 » by carolinabred » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:55 pm

I agree with Dexmor.
C- Diop
PF-Okafor
SF Diaw
SG Bell
PG Felton
After last night I think Adam is cooked, he looks afraid out there and that is not good. S. Brown has a chance to show what he can do with more minutes Howard is solid but we are really missing DJ now. Singletary doesn’t impress me at all. Mohammad and Brown will need to step up. May needs to get healthy and get on the floor. I am sure he would help us out. The biggest thing I saw lacking last night was rebounding.
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74 points is a problem/ Larry Brown needs to read 

Post#15 » by Dexmor » Thu Jan 29, 2009 2:58 pm

This can go in the who is gonna step up so if you wanna merge it's cool.

I said it before Juwan Howard has go to be the man to step in, They can go for stretches of DIop/Mek/Diaw/Bell/Felts to see if they really need a center but not for a whole half.

Juwan Howard I have been telling you guys is basically as good as he has always been. His game never relied on athletism, he is healthy and has been logging big minutes for years now so has low miles.
We need scoring. In this league he has stuck around so long because he is a scorer. He got 9 points in 24 minutes which is on par of what I said he can give us if he started I said 13 and 6 at least.

We need scoring more then anything. Mek and Bell are defensive players and when they are the top scorers and the best options for games your in trouble,

They need to go with a lineup of

Mek
Howard
Diaw
Bell
Felts

That gives them somebody else to throw the ball into. Howard will catch all of Diaw's passes and Felts passes and finish. He is very smart, another veteran who can lead them threw this. Now because of his age he wouldn't be the answer for the long run but until Gerald gets back he is exactly what they need. If I know this WHY THE HELL DOES LARRY BROWN NOT KNOW?
I understand alot of Bobcats fans wanting Ammo to get a shot because they want that #3 pick to not have been a waste. A coach or a good coach can not think like that. He needs to see what they need and who is the best man to give it to them. They need to replace Wallace's rebounds and inside scoring which Howard can do both. Ammo is a shooter with no D. He should have not started and it was a terrible move that cost us a shot at the game.
If LB starts Ammo again over Howard I will seriously have to rethink the amount of respect I have for him which is a very high amount.
There is no reason I should call it and see it clear as day and he doesn't.
They need a scoring option, a proven scorer and Juwan's age means nothing like I said because for 2 months or whatever it is he can give us what we need.

I am so pissed we might lose our playoff chances because of this injury when we don't have to if we can just get the coach to wake the heck up. Ammo should be getting dnp's not Sean May.
Even May would have been better because he is just as bad as Ammo on D but he can at least score.
Either way this was an easy call, they should have started Diop or Howard and then let Howard get at least 32-34 minutes or as much as he can handle.
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Re: 74 points is a problem/ Larry Brown needs to read 

Post#16 » by Dexmor » Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:02 pm

It just seems obvious, Diop makes up for boards and blocks and D and Howard makes up for scoring.

there is no excuse for a coach to get caught up in drafted highly because if Ammo was drafted #30 he woud have never got the nod to start.
You have to expect more from the coach.
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Post#17 » by BigSlam » Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:17 pm

Dexmor wrote:They need to go with a lineup of

Mek
Howard
Diaw
Bell
Felts

I agree. This would seem the logical line up to me. Be handy if McMay could log some back up mins at the 4 spot so the 2nd unit was:

Diop
McMay
Ammo
Shannon
Singletary
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Post#18 » by carolinabred » Thu Jan 29, 2009 3:18 pm

Personally, they could start Diop, Nazzy, or Howard…it doesn’t matter to me because I think they need rebounding. With Gerald down you miss his points and rebounding, his driving to the lane and drawing fouls. Diaw can make up for this with his ability to create shots for others with his passing. Diaw is not as good as Gerald rebounding. I would agree that we could play Howard more (He is the better offenstive option of the three), but I would not start him. I would start Diop for his rebounding and D. Close the game with Howard at PF and Okafor at C.
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Post#19 » by W_HAMILTON » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:12 pm

We haven't played Okafor alongside Diop much, have we? We wouldn't get much offense, but I'd be interested to see (1) if those two playing alongside each other could control the defense boards and (2) how Okafor performs guarding PFs this time around.
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Post#20 » by BigSlam » Thu Jan 29, 2009 7:15 pm

W_HAMILTON wrote:We haven't played Okafor alongside Diop much, have we? We wouldn't get much offense, but I'd be interested to see (1) if those two playing alongside each other could control the defense boards and (2) how Okafor performs guarding PFs this time around.

If we were to do that then tomorrow night might be a suitable match up to try it out.

Diop Vs Nene
EO50 Vs Martin

We wouldn't face the type of mobile, long range shooting PF that we usually fear so we might be able to get away with a pairing of Diop and EO50 together.

Of course that means that Nazzy gets more burn - which I'm not a huge fan of.
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