The Making of a Leader - Raymond Felton Piece

Post #1 » by **BigSlam** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 12:50 pm

Great read in the Observer on Felts:

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/bobcat ... 18599.html

“I've started so many things that I don't want to leave. My family is here, and we're building something strong with this team,” Felton said.

“Work all this out in the summer, because this is definitely where I belong.”

Home team discount!!

Dexmor · Post #2 » by **Dexmor** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:19 pm

I would be deliourus if they got him for 5 years starting at 6 million. Maybe a 5 year 35 million dollar deal. That is normally a steal but in this economy it's also fair and it's long term.

Dexmor · Post #3 » by **Dexmor** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:21 pm

The question is if it does sign and it sounds like he will what do we do with DJ?
DJ was drafted just in case Felton couldn't handle Brown so now what?
Jason Terry role or trade?

Post #4 » by **BigSlam** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:31 pm

Dexmor wrote:I would be deliourus if they got him for 5 years starting at 6 million. Maybe a 5 year 35 million dollar deal. That is normally a steal but in this economy it's also fair and it's long term.

I'd be very ok with that deal and agree and think it's fair. Something like:

6mil - 6.5mil - 7mil - 7.5mil - 8.0mil

Post #5 » by **BigSlam** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:35 pm

Dexmor wrote:The question is if it does sign and it sounds like he will what do we do with DJ?
DJ was drafted just in case Felton couldn't handle Brown so now what?
Jason Terry role or trade?

"If" we could sign Felts for a 5/35 type deal then we would be out of our minds not to retain DJ for the length of his rookie contract - unless a "can't say no" trade was presented to us.

At the very least DJ would be a starting calilbre back up PG for the duration of his rookie contract. After living through McMinus and the Midget we all know how much we need him off the bench.

arh1109 · Post #6 » by **arh1109** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 4:52 pm

Not to mention how well he will play after this year of experience and is healthy again. I think he can be a good 15/5 guy off the bench at 30 minutes a night. Unless we're offered a potential allstar sg, then we're better off to benefit from his play because that will be great 6 man production.

Dexmor · Post #7 » by **Dexmor** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:04 pm

Maybe this year we won't draft Ty Lawson now. Were not deep enough to have one of our best players off the bench. Our starting lineup needs work.

ccbballin · Post #8 » by **ccbballin** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 5:42 pm

IMO DJ and Felton get along good. DJ looks up to Felton, he would probably be glad to see him resigned. Right now point guard is a strength with these two. Keep both for a few more years and then go from there. Maybe a three year contract for Felton is the best way to go.

Unless we can get a really good combo guard to come in and backup Felton and Raja. Maybe like Monta Ellis but not Monta Ellis.

Jeff Teague sounds good.

Dexmor · Post #9 » by **Dexmor** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 7:54 pm

Are you kidding me? If they had an Ellis type talent he would start. Bell shouldn't be a starter unless there are some serious scorers on the team and he is the 5th best on the starting unit.
Monta is alot better then Bell.
I hope we dont draft a 6'2 player. Derozen would be better or Henderson or Warren

Post #10 » by **BigSlam** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:23 pm

Dexmor · Post #11 » by **Dexmor** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 8:57 pm

Felton will sign a contract he will practice all offseason on his shot which will open up his game. If he was a good shooter people would have to get all up on him and his drives would be unstoppable. He would be unstopable.
Next year I see him averaging 20 points and shooting 44% from the field and 35 from 3. I see him getting about 8 assists to and getting 20 and 8 will make the 2005 draft year the best year for pg's ever. Jack was there to.

Post #12 » by **fatlever** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 9:58 pm

i would be happy to bet pretty much anything that felton does not average 20ppg on 44fg% next season.

arh1109 · Post #13 » by **arh1109** » Tue Mar 24, 2009 11:53 pm

Unlikely, but possible. A reliable jumpshot would really open up his offensive game, gotta put the work in felts.

ccbballin · Post #14 » by **ccbballin** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:23 am

Dexmor wrote:Are you kidding me? If they had an Ellis type talent he would start. Bell shouldn't be a starter unless there are some serious scorers on the team and he is the 5th best on the starting unit.
Monta is alot better then Bell.
I hope we dont draft a 6'2 player. Derozen would be better or Henderson or Warren

Warren is only one inch taller than Teague. I have never seen him play but I wouldn't disagree with drafting him. I'm betting Derozan is going to go top 5 and Henderson top 10. Since we'll probably be btw. 12 and 16 those two will be gone.

You said somthing about Barkley earlier being a great fat player. Dejuan Blair, he's only 6'6 but he has a 7'3 wingspan. He can't shoot like Barkley and he's probably not as quick but he had 4 games with more than 10 offensive rebounds. Wow! Rebounding is always a plus and to create a bunch of second chance points is very important. Kind of like the Cavs on NBA 2K9.

Oh yeah, re-sign Felton.

Rich4114 · Post #15 » by **Rich4114** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 2:37 am

fatlever wrote:i would be happy to bet pretty much anything that felton does not average 20ppg on 44fg% next season.

If he did, we would win like 60 games, lol. We're something like 12-1 when he scores 20 somehow.

Felton is one of those PG's who could really break out any year. He's been held back by the poor coaching the past few years, but another year under LB... he would just need to improve that jumper. We should have a shooting coach come in and just work on that part of his game with him. Not because we need him to be our scorer, but because it opens things up for everything else. The more guys have to worry about him making shots, the more it'll open up easy shots for everyone else.

Dexmor · Post #16 » by **Dexmor** » Wed Mar 25, 2009 3:27 pm

Yeah seriously he can break anybody down and is the fastest player on the court. It's easy to guard the drives because all you have to do is back off him and prepare for the drive and let him shoot. If you can't do that I am betting he will totally drive more at least 5x more a game. Now add his 40% to 44% and his scoring is up to 20.
He looks like a 20 point scorer and has the talent as one the shots just rattle out. Now if he does the work this summer which I think he will after coming so close to the playoffs, getting his money and having DJ in the back of his mind he will get his 18-20.

-Ian- · Post #17 » by **-Ian-** » Thu Apr 2, 2009 3:14 am

The Making of a Leader who shoots 7 out of 20.

ohara · Post #18 » by **ohara** » Thu Apr 2, 2009 3:22 am

Like Napolean led the French at Waterloo. Lots of heart, but judgment and execution was lacking at critical times. Ray Allen is like Wellington. He just rips our hearts out!

arh1109 · Post #19 » by **arh1109** » Thu Apr 2, 2009 12:59 pm

I love how everyone on our team seems to be complete opposites of eachother. Wallace and Diaw, Felton and Augustine. Seems like if they just learn the right things from eachother we could be great. I'm afraid Dj's gonna be our next injury prone player. Dude needs to go to the gym with Diaw while Felton and Wallace need to shoot like 2,000 shots a day. I hope we don't make the playoffs just so our players get motivated enough to go for the overkill next season.

freakon0mics · Post #20 » by **freakon0mics** » Thu Apr 2, 2009 8:31 pm

I'm not going to past judgment yet on Felton since some point guards take some time to develop. He has his ups and downs. He can make crucial decisions and at other times make some terrible ones. I do have to give him the benefit of a doubt since he has gone through 3 coaches and still kept his head up. However, I have to disagree with Dexmor for a bit. I don't see Felton becoming a regular 20 point scorer in this league. When I say regular, I mean someone that shoots over 45% every night and not someone who just chucks it up. He's a longs way from that probably never.