Pointguard Logjam...

[jhern87]

Just an observation. You guys have two young and really promising point guards on your roster. Do you think that one of them will be moved this summer (a la the Toronto PG situation with Ford & Calderon?)? If so who do you see being moved? What do you think you guys will be looking for in return?

[fatlever]

felton is a RFA, so hard to tell until that situation gets cleared up.

[jhern87]

felton is a RFA, so hard to tell until that situation gets cleared up.

Yeah definitely.. I wonder how much you guys would match?

I just wasn't sure how Charlotte fans saw the situation? Like if you guys felt Felton was better equipped to lead the team for the future or if you guys preferred Augustin? Any thoughts?

[Rich4114]

Well just look at what happened to Toronto. Everyone was drinking the Calderon juice because of how well he played off the bench after TJ Ford. They bought into it up in Toronto and felt they couldn't have two really good PG's on their team so they got rid of one. Result = significant drop in wins.

No to mention this franchise specifically knows what it's like to have ZERO depth at the PG spot... it's not pretty. Either Felton or DJ could go out and start on many NBA teams but I *think* the consensus is that we'd keep them both here long term unless it became a problem. Right now Felton is the better PG while DJ is the better shooter (really DJ's one of the best shooters in the league it looks like). So if we get rid of one, we lose play making and someone to run the team and if we lose the other we become worse at shooting or scoring.

At the end of the day, I think they'll resign Felton and see how it goes from there. I don't think they would risk getting rid of one of them unless it could net them a star at any position.

[thruthefire]

I'm not for trading either one. Niether has the ego that seems to have had an affect on moving Ford from Toronto, so I like having both. Two quality point guards is a nice luxury, in my opinion.

Hopefully, the FO resigns Felton. We were able to get contracts done with Wallace and Okafor so, i'm confident something will get done with Felton.

[BigSlam]

After having to suffer through guys like Burleson, McInnis and Boykins we welcome having two NBA standard PG's. Can't see any real reason to bust up that depth - unless our hand is forced.

[arh1109]

I feel like if we moved Felton for someone who could run the point just as well and play Felton's role on the team minus the takeover mentality and make key plays in the fourth besides a contested layup. Someone like Henrick would be perfect. Guard the 2 and run the point. Now how do we get him is the ?

[jhern87]

Well just look at what happened to Toronto. Everyone was drinking the Calderon juice because of how well he played off the bench after TJ Ford. They bought into it up in Toronto and felt they couldn't have two really good PG's on their team so they got rid of one. Result = significant drop in wins.

No to mention this franchise specifically knows what it's like to have ZERO depth at the PG spot... it's not pretty. Either Felton or DJ could go out and start on many NBA teams but I *think* the consensus is that we'd keep them both here long term unless it became a problem. Right now Felton is the better PG while DJ is the better shooter (really DJ's one of the best shooters in the league it looks like). So if we get rid of one, we lose play making and someone to run the team and if we lose the other we become worse at shooting or scoring.

At the end of the day, I think they'll resign Felton and see how it goes from there. I don't think they would risk getting rid of one of them unless it could net them a star at any position.

You also have to look at it from the opposite end though. What could a trade for Felton or Augustin net you guys? How could those pieces benefite you guys?

No biggie, just thought that would be something you guys would explore have to starter quality PG's.

[arh1109]

We already have 5 quality starters and a 6 man that could be a starter. Point guard position is the most important position in Larry Brown's system, therefore we're better off having 2 starting point guards instead of one starting point guard + whatever we can get for Felton. The first problem we've encountered on the team that really needs to be addressed is how small our team gets with Felton and Dj on the floor. The second should be establishing some one with the role of closing out games. We're not going to do work in the playoffs without a consistent offensive option at the end of games.

[jhern87]

We already have 5 quality starters and a 6 man that could be a starter. Point guard position is the most important position in Larry Brown's system, therefore we're better off having 2 starting point guards instead of one starting point guard + whatever we can get for Felton. The first problem we've encountered on the team that really needs to be addressed is how small our team gets with Felton and Dj on the floor. The second should be establishing some one with the role of closing out games. We're not going to do work in the playoffs without a consistent offensive option at the end of games.

I just can't remember the last time I've seen a two point guard rotation really work out.. I mean considering that you want your better players on the court as much as possible, it will naturally create math-up problems. I understand that Larry Brown's offense calls for strong PG play but Chauncey Billups seemed to handle that just fine in Detroit.

It just seems like maybe a player at a different position (maybe that could play multiple positions?) that could contribute a solid 30 minutes or so a game would help the Bobcats out more than having to play an undersized lineup for extended periods?

PG is the 2nd hardest position to fill out on a roster so that definitely helps boost trade value as well. Just a thought. Random trade scenarios get me thinking a lot for some reason haha..

[Rich4114]

I feel like if we moved Felton for someone who could run the point just as well and play Felton's role on the team minus the takeover mentality and make key plays in the fourth besides a contested layup. Someone like Henrick would be perfect. Guard the 2 and run the point. Now how do we get him is the ?

So you want someone who can run the PG position offensively, guard opposing SG's, not take over yet still dominate in the 4th and be sure to not take layups that are contested? Good luck with that.

[Rich4114]

You also have to look at it from the opposite end though. What could a trade for Felton or Augustin net you guys? How could those pieces benefite you guys?

No biggie, just thought that would be something you guys would explore have to starter quality PG's.

Oh I agree, if one of them could get us a big deal player then you've got to consider it. But we can only trade Felton in a S&T now, and it'll probably be harder to trade him once we've got a lot of money committed.

[Dexmor]

We already have 5 quality starters and a 6 man that could be a starter. Point guard position is the most important position in Larry Brown's system, therefore we're better off having 2 starting point guards instead of one starting point guard + whatever we can get for Felton. The first problem we've encountered on the team that really needs to be addressed is how small our team gets with Felton and Dj on the floor. The second should be establishing some one with the role of closing out games. We're not going to do work in the playoffs without a consistent offensive option at the end of games.

5 role players and no stars. Im a Felton guy myself because he only has 1 flaw in his game that is holding him back from being elite. DJ's size means he will always be flawed. WIth the fact that we only have role players I can't see them turning down a deal to get a premier player if it's possible and the most sought after guy next year could be DJ with his age and contract.

[chrbal]

Unless the league goes nuts for Felton, keep him. That and having DJ on his rookie contract would be a nice luxury to have. Solve the problem in 3 years when DJs' rookie contract runs out.

[Dexmor]

I agree. Give Felton at least another 2 years to learn to shoot before we brand him poor mans Andre Miller.
Felts has all the tools and making of a star he just can't shoot good enough yet.
DJ is good but as none of the makings to be a star.

[fatlever]

dj was disappointing last night. ugh... i'm never happy.

[Dexmor]

Your not happy for the same reason were all not. Were the only team in the league without a real star to look forward to watching. A guy who always has a good game. Our team takes turns of players playing well.
We need that guy, hell we need at least 2-3 to win a championship but it would be nice to get the first one. There has not been a allstar in Bobcats history.

[PerkinsFor3]

if the kings land griffin i'd try to land thompson in a deal for felton or augustin. if washington gets him, i can see antwan coming to charlotte. he's a nc guy.

[Dexmor]

What the heck makes you think we can get Jamison? We have nothing to offer for Jamison.

[ccbballin]

The best starter backup pg combo I can think of was when the Kings had Bibby starting and Bobby Jackson coming off the bench. It worked really well for them.

Nash and Barbosa has been good too.