MJ is not our GM - the official draft day thread

[fatlever]

2009 NBA DRAFT

Draft Links
http://www.nba.com/draft2009/ - official NBA draft page
http://www.nba.com/draft2009/prospects/archive/ - NBA prospects page
http://www.nba.com/bobcats/draft_central_2009.html - Bobcats Draft Central
http://www.draftexpress.com/
http://www.nbadraft.net/
http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm - rumors
http://twitter.com/TheRealTWill - where all the news breaks
http://bobcatalley.com/phpfreechat/ - bobcats chat room - thanks amcoolio

Bobcats Picks
#12
#40
#54

Potential Bobcats at #12
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ter ... liams-507/
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Ger ... rson-1042/
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Demar-DeRozan-1319/
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Earl-Clark-488/
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jordan-Hill-1222/
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Tyl ... rough-288/
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/DeJuan-Blair-5049/
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Austin-Daye-1316/
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/James-Johnson-5053/
http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jrue-Holiday-1108/

Realgm Bobcats Draft Preview
http://bobcats.realgm.com/articles/37/2 ... t_preview/

Bobcats War Room - according to realgm posters
viewtopic.php?f=53&t=899730

Past #12 Picks
2008 Jason Thompson Sacramento Sacramento
2007 Thaddeus Young New Orleans Philadelphia
2006 Hilton Armstrong New Orleans New Orleans
2005 Yaroslav Korolev L.A. Clippers
2004 Robert Swift Seattle Oklahoma City
2003 Nick Collison Seattle Oklahoma City
2002 Melvin Ely L.A. Clippers New Orleans
2001 Vladimir Radmanovic Seattle Charlotte
2000 Etan Thomas Dallas Washington
1999 Aleksandar Radojevic Toronto
1998 Michael Doleac Orlando
1997 Austin Croshere Indiana
1996 Vitaly Potapenko Cleveland
1995 Cherokee Parks Dallas
1994 Khalid Reeves Miami
1993 George Lynch L.A. Lakers
1992 Harold Miner Miami
1991 Greg Anthony New York
1990 Alec Kessler Houston (traded to Miami)
1989 Mookie Blaylock New Jersey
1988 Harvey Grant Washington
1987 Tyrone Bogues Washington
1986 John Williams Washington
1985 Kenny Green Washington
1984 Tim McCormick Cleveland (traded to Seattle)
1983 Darrell Walker New York
1982 John Bagley Cleveland
1981 Kelly Tripucka Detroit
1980 Mike Woodson New York

[fatlever]

please use this thread for discussion about today's draft. i am locking the old thread. its getting close to the max size allowed.

have fun.

[Walt Cronkite]

Only 11 pages to go. We were so close

[fatlever]

haha... sorry walt. but i didnt want to have to worry about creating a new one right in the middle of hte draft or something.

continuing topics from last thread.

regarding our worst case scenario. seems i left johnson and jennings off my list. seems like all of us had a different guy we wanted. thats not good.

regarding mj coming to the workout. did you see how pumped twill got about having mj around. this is precisely the reason i think it would be very beneficial for mj to get more engaged. his like a vampire that can glamour people. he just has that kind of affect on people.

regarding mj wanting james johnson... did he come to that conclusion after seeing him yesterday or the first workout... oh wait, he wasnt there. why johnson? to be honest, i havent been paying any attention to johnson this year, even though he is from wake.

[fatlever]

i love that dx interview w/ williams. he is really easy to like.

i hope i dont have to hate him at the end of the night.

than again, hearing gerald williams interview and he is also easy to like. dude sounds like a typical duke player.

[fatlever]

is it just me or does this draft seem to have the least amount of euro players projected in the first round in the past 5 years, or more?

[chrbal]

It does seem like it, especially with Brandon Jennings technically being one of them.

[fatlever]

espn - "jeff teague is the most undervalued player in this draft"

[Bowser]

Jeff Teague is terrible. He had one great game against Carolina (and let's not forget, as much as I love my Heels, slashing guards ate our lunch last year: Vasquez, McClinton, Teague, etc) and basically fell off the face of the Earth during the 2nd half of the season. He's a SG in a PG's body and that's never going to work.

[BigSlam]

Jeff Teague is terrible. He had one great game against Carolina (and let's not forget, as much as I love my Heels, slashing guards ate our lunch last year: Vasquez, McClinton, Teague, etc) and basically fell off the face of the Earth during the 2nd half of the season. He's a SG in a PG's body and that's never going to work.

I thought Lawson was meant to be some sort of super quick, lock down defender?

Why did any point guards eat UNC's lunch?

[nugentrk]

I hope Tyler Hansbrough or Brandon Jennings goes early


#12 - This is my big board
Jordon Jill
DeMar DeRozan
Terrence Williams

#40 -
Chase Budinger
Jermaine Taylor
Josh Heytvelt
Danny Green

#54 - draft a euro
Victor Claver
Vyacheslav Kravtsov

[BigSlam]

Multiple places reporting we are trying to package our 2 2nds to move back into the 1st for another pick, but cant find takers.

Where are you reading that ohara?

[BigSlam]

Anyone got any updates from TWill's Twitter page (I can see it at work)?

[Bowser]

Anyone got any updates from TWill's Twitter page (I can see it at work)?

Nothing particularly interesting from T-Will's twitter. The 2 2nd's for a late 1st is from Yahoo: http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=A ... &type=lgns

And Lawson was never considered a lock-down defender. He was a decent defender, but despite the notion of him being super quick, he's more north-south fast and not really laterally quick.

[BigSlam]

This is my big board

#12:
James Harden (hey, some are saying he's going to slide to #8 - so why not?)
Terrence Williams
Tyreke Evans
Gerald Henderson

#40:
Taj Gibson
Dionte Christmas
Wayne Ellington
Dante Cunningham

#54:
Jeff Adrien
Jodie Meeks
Alade Aminu
Jeff Pendergraph

[fatlever]

yeah, lawson wasnt very good on defense thru much of the year. he was beaten badly by some quick guards. he was much much better in the tounry. i think a lot of it with him was effort. he hasnt always appeared to be going 100% during regular season.

[Elden Payton]

Hey guys.. the draft is getting close and I'm excited..

Am wondering why people value TWill over Evans if Evans is still available at 12?
I really like Williams' intangibles and believe he has value at 12 but honestly Evans has the potential to be as much as a difference on defence as Williams with better scoring and play making ability.

Evans has the potential to be a superstar, will contribute in the NBA next year and is perfect in sharing a backcourt with DJ. Obviously it's a matter of Evans slipping past either 4,5,6 or 8 but stranger things have happened.

Also am wondering how serious we are(or the rumours) about moving into the late first round?.. am hoping we are serious about that and I would not mind drafting Collison to back up DJ which frees us up to move felton..

what value do we want in return for Felton.. am hearing Dalemberts name a bit.. I would not mind organising a deal in principle with Philly for S&T Felton 7-8mil and Mohammed or Diop for Dalembert and Jason Smith... what do you think?

[BigSlam]

What Bilas is saying about the local kids:

GERALD HENDERSON, DUKE
He could go 10, he could go 15. Super athlete. Big-time athlete. He measured out with a 6-10 ½ wingspan. I'm not sure he has as natural an understanding of the game as a guy like Curry, but defensively he can guard three different spots. He's a little small to guard a three, but he can guard a one and a two.

JAMES JOHNSON, WAKE FOREST
He's an older guy, so it's not like he's coming out at 18 and hasn't figured it out. He's one of the guys you might have to dial back a little bit. I'd rather have to dial them back than dial them up. He's super talented and super athletic. He'll just have to refine things. He's still a little bit raw, but he has good ball skills. He's going to need to become more consistent as a perimeter shooter, but he has a lot of potential to be good.

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/bobcat ... 98735.html

[BigSlam]

Am wondering why people value TWill over Evans if Evans is still available at 12?
I really like Williams' intangibles and believe he has value at 12 but honestly Evans has the potential to be as much as a difference on defence as Williams with better scoring and play making ability.

Evans has the potential to be a superstar, will contribute in the NBA next year and is perfect in sharing a backcourt with DJ. Obviously it's a matter of Evans slipping past either 4,5,6 or 8 but stranger things have happened.

I flip-flop on the two. I like Evans, but watching him play can be very frustrating at times when he attempts to do too much and stuffs it up or takes bad shots or goes for the flashy rather than the safe. He also has a very funky looking shot and I don't know if it can be fixed. He is young though and has a lot of upside.

TWIll just has so much personality and swagger about his game. He's been around a little longer and I think will adjust to the NBA a little quicker than Evans will.

Seriously though, at #12, I'd be fine with either.

[hotrod]

Chad Ford was just on ESPN radio and compared Lawson to Jacque Vaughn, basically a career back up. He also has his Mock 7.0 up and has us taking TWill and Hendo going to NJ.