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Around the weeks/days leading up to the draft there was a big debate about who the Bobcats should draft and so many people wanted Terrance Williams and I was steadfast against that...not just becuz I dont think TWill will amount to much(which I dont but thats not my point....) I also didnt want Henderson or any SG/SF type unless one of the top 6-7 players fell and happened to be a wing....I kept posting the 'Cats should go after Blair, Clark, Hansbrough, Daye, Mullens or any big....But my logic for that is exactly what is happening now, the 'Cats appear to be in the market for a backup PF but Bass wants the whole mid-level which we dont want to give him and Rasheed, McDyess, Birdman and those guys all wanna play for contenders so what does that leave the market looking like??

Like this:

Sean May -------------------------- Josh McRoberts
Solomon Jones -------------------------- Shavlik Randolph
Shelden Williams -------------------------- Drew Gooden (probably going to contender)
Joe Smith (probably going to contender) -------------------------- Leon Powe (injured)
Juwan Howard -------------------------- Melvin Ely
Stromile Swift -------------------------- Chris Wilcox
Ike Diogu

Wilcox or May are probably the best we could do outta that bunch, but honestly do any of them really stand out....On the other hand if we had taken a big in the draft look at the remaining wing players available to chose from and some of them will end up playing for alot lower salary then they expected but all of them are still I think in a price range, for whatever reason, that the 'Cats can afford

Allen Iverson -------------------------- Luther Head
Marquis Daniels -------------------------- Keith Bogans
Rashad McCants -------------------------- Rodney Carney
Dahntay Jones -------------------------- Desmond Mason
Gerald Green -------------------------- Matt Barnes
Von Wafer -------------------------- Morris Almond
Joey Graham -------------------------- Flip Murray

I dont want to knock Gerald Henderson cuz he hasnt played one game yet & may turn out to be a star but are any of us really convinced that he's guaranteed to be much better than all the guys on this list?! I think any of them could have come in and played Raja's backup effectively in the case of AI, Raja could have backed him up...

My logic going into the draft was draft big its always easier to find young, scoring wings unless one has star written all over them...I look at Gerald H. and I dont see star...I see solid, but I also look this list of wings and see solid.... My question is hindsight being 20/20 does anyone else now think it may have been a better idea to address the frontcourt in the draft by trading down or whatever but then finding the wing player in free agency instead of the way we did it??

cant fault that logic. easier to sign a sg as a FA then to sign a pf as a FA.

then again, i didnt want to get stuck with cartier martin at sg either.

It would be easier to sign or trade for a shooting guard but this team had a glaring weakness at the wing spots. Drafting guarantees those 2 positions to be filled more than free agency, where it seems like free agents are avoiding the Bobcats.

This wasn't a draft with alot of big men. Hansborogh might be great but I don't think his ceiling is that high. And who knows how much flack the FO would have gotten if they drafted another Carolina player. Specially if he doesn't pan out.

I liked Clark alot, but he's more of a three. James Johnson could prolly play at 4 but he's still more of a 3. Mullens is years away from contributing if ever. Daye's a twig and a 3.

None of those players aside from Hansbro really fit what we need which is a low post scoring 4.

They made the right choice drafting Henderson b/c he was the best 2 available. A position that is really important considering Raja's injury history.

IMO they should have made a trade and taken Blair too. Who knows why it didn't happen?

Also looking at the comparison btw ur PF list and ur SG list, I don't see much differnce in the talent btw the 2 lists.

ccbballin wrote:This wasn't a draft with alot of big men. Hansborogh might be great but I don't think his ceiling is that high. And who knows how much flack the FO would have gotten if they drafted another Carolina player. Specially if he doesn't pan out.

I liked Clark alot, but he's more of a three. James Johnson could prolly play at 4 but he's still more of a 3. Mullens is years away from contributing if ever. Daye's a twig and a 3.

None of those players aside from Hansbro really fit what we need which is a low post scoring 4.

They made the right choice drafting Henderson b/c he was the best 2 available. A position that is really important considering Raja's injury history.

IMO they should have made a trade and taken Blair too. Who knows why it didn't happen?

Also looking at the comparison btw ur PF list and ur SG list, I don't see much differnce in the talent btw the 2 lists.

I respect that opinion....but you dont see a difference between those 2 lists?!! Then that kills my whole point, there arent any bigs on the open market we can get thats gonna make that much of a difference or your gonna have to overpay someone and be locked into yet another bad contract whereas the list of wing players had some pretty good talent at a discounted rate.... you dont think so?!?

The only name on the small list that really has an impact is AI. I don't want AI. I think AI would disrupt the team environment too much. Barnes would be a nice addition, but I don't think he makes the Cats significantly better. Mason is okay, but old, and Flip would be okay in the second unit as a scoring punch off the bench.

The big I wouldn't mind are Wilcox, Gooden (dumb as a brick I know), and I'd like to see what Diogu and McRoberts have in the tank. May can just **** off... He had his chance and he screwed the pooch.

The only benefit of getting Shelden Williams would be his missus.

misterglover wrote:My logic going into the draft was draft big its always easier to find young, scoring wings unless one has star written all over them...

That theory didn't work out too well for a team like the Sonics.

MisterGlover I agree and disagree with you. On draft night I thought we would go out and get a big. When we picked Henderson I was not dissapointed because I like him as a player and believe he will be solid, but I couldn't understand why we got a backcourt player. Then I started thinking back to when McGinnis used to come off the bench and stink the place up!! Then I thought about when Raja got injured last year and killed our playoff hopes. This changed my focus. So I guess I feel you, but I feel Management as well.

We should have picked Tyler H and then offered Nate Robinson who is about to sign a 2.9 mil 1 year offer with the knicks. Now we should try to resign May and still go after Nate.

Nate Robinson? Good idea.

How about we bring back Boykins too?

Team needed a SG and needed bigs.

Blair- would have been nice to get a low 1st, slightly higher 2nd (I was really starting to think he would fall to Charlotte at 40. Damn you Spurs). There is no way in hell he should've been taken at 12 though.

Clark and Daye are projects. Projects are nice and all, but you can't really be bothered by losing out on them.

Tyler Hansbrough- Another Tarheel. Yay? Team needs an athletic PF, Tyler is not that.

Mullens- Sure, again if this team had a late 1st. BJ is not a lottery pick. Wasn't then, isn't now.

Also, look at the names you listed for Guards. Honestly, you'd want any of them? Dahntay Jones is really good at sweeping the legs. McCants could be interesting, could be Kareem Rush 2.0. I'm guessing the latter. Iverson.... Bogans- been there, done that. Not to mention he kind of sucks.
Marquis Daniels is a Shooting guard who can not shoot 3s, at all. Rodney Carney...will become Keith Bogans.

Then the two names that impress me the most. MR Project, Gerald Green and Luther Head. I do realize that Green put up great garbage time numbers for the Mavs last season, but I'm guessing 9.9 minutes weren't against the rotation players too often.

Luther Head. Is there a player in the NBA, outside of Green, that needs a 1st year expansion team to start more then him? Hes a 3rd guard/4th guard type who can help a team as depth, but he'll never be a starter for any team worth playing for.

Drew Gooden. I don't honestly see how hes going to a ring-chaser yet. I think he went to the Spurs because who would honestly want to play for the Kings if they didn't absolutley have to? As crazy as this might sound, I would honestly give him a 4 year (or 5 year contract) at about $4-4.5 Mil a year.

The fact that you wanted to go after Blair shows how flawed your logic is.

This draft was notoriously weak for bigs. The talent level dropped off tremendously from Blake to others like Thabust, Blair, and Hansbrough.