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- You have to fill out all the roster spots and cover all the criteria listed.
- You can fill the criteria in any order you wish.
- you must tell which category your selection is for at the time of the selection.
- No player can be selected by two different teams.
- The team is for next season, not a team to build for the future. The winner will be the team that has the best chance of winning an NBA title next year (as voted on by the other managers). 16 rounds.

Draft
- done via message board. dont sign up if you dont plan to visit the board several times per day. nothing is worse than waiting on one person for 3 days to make a pick.
- order will be random, determined after we get 10 teams.
- serpentine draft (i.e if you pick 10 you will also pick 11. if you pick 1 you wont pick again until 20)

winner
- after the draft each team will vote for the team that they think has the best chance at winning the finals in 2010.
- you cant vote for your own team.
- you get 3 votes (first, second, third). first is worth 3pts, second is worth 2pts, third is worth 1pt. most points wins.

The rules/criteria

Excluded player pool – Lebron james, Kobe Bryant, Tim Duncan, Kevin Garnett, Chris Paul, Dwyane Wade and Dwight Howard. All others are fair game.

Criteria that must be met (can be selected in any order)

1. one rookie from the 2009 draft
2. one European born player
3. one knucklehead - a player who has previously been suspended by the NBA.
4. one International born player (not from Europe - Israel will be included with International)
5. one player from the 2008 or 2009 All-Star game
6. one undrafted 2009 rookie
7. one player older than 35 (must be 35 by July 14th)
8. one non-lottery player from the 2008 draft
9. one player picked in the second round from the 2006 or 2007 draft.
10. one white American born player
11. one player 6'0" or shorter (using NBA.com for measurement)
12. one player 7'0" or taller (using NBA.com or fiba.com for measurement)
13. one player who has never played in the NBA all-star game.
14. one non-rookie who did not play a game in the NBA 2008-2009 (inured last season, overseas last season or retired - but most have previously played in the NBA)
15. one player who averaged less than 8ppg in 2008-2009.
16. one coach - who you want to coach your team

12 team limit.

Draft order for 1st round. 2nd round is reversed, so countryboi would pick 12 then 13, walt would pick 11 then 14 etc, doc.end would pick 1 then 24. 3rd round is same as first and so on...
1. doc.end
2. nugentrk
3. paydro
4. Slam
5. waydownsouth
6. amcoolio
7. olajuwon34
8. e4nf6
9. fatlever
10. jdm3
11. walt
12. countryboi

teams

Doc
1. 2009 rookie - Earl Clark
2. Euro - José Manuel Calderón
3. knucklehead - Elton Brand
4. international - Raja Bell
5. 08 or 09 allstar - Joe Johnson
6. undrafted 09 rookie - KC Rivers
7. 35 and older - Juwon Howard
8. non lottery 2008 - Ryan Anderson
9. 2nd round 07 or 06 - Ramon Sessions
10. white american - David Lee
11. 6ft and under - Ty Lawson
12. 7ft and over - Dirk Nowitzki
13. never played in allstar game - Gerald Wallace
14. nonrookie who didnt play in league last year - Josh Childress
15. less than 8ppg in 09 - Joel Przybilla
16. coach - Jerry Sloan

nugentrk
1. 2009 rookie - Brandon Jennings
2. Euro - Rudy Fernandez
3. knucklehead - David West
4. international - Mehmet Okur
5. 08 or 09 allstar - Chris Bosh
6. undrafted 09 rookie - Tyrese Rice
7. 35 and older - Gary Payton
8. non lottery 2008 - Javale McGhee
9. 2nd round 07 or 06 - Dominic McGuire
10. white american - Mike Dunleavy Jr
11. 6ft and under - T.J. Ford
12. 7ft and over - Specer Hawes
13. never played in allstar game - Kevin Martin
14. nonrookie who didnt play in league last year - Jamal Tinsley
15. less than 8ppg in 09 - Luc Mbah a Moute
16. coach - Gregg Popovich

paydro
1. 2009 rookie - Stephen Curry
2. Euro - Andrei Kirilenko
3. knucklehead - Nenê
4. international - Manu Ginobili
5. 08 or 09 allstar - Antwan Jamison (spelled per Paydro's request)
6. undrafted 09 rookie - Jeff Adrien
7. 35 and older - Grant Hill
8. non lottery 2008 - Mario Chalmers
9. 2nd round 07 or 06 - Craig Smith
10. white american - Luke Walton
11. 6ft and under - Kyle Lowery
12. 7ft and over - Pau Gasol
13. never played in allstar game - Rajon Rondo
14. nonrookie who didnt play in league last year - Antoine Walker
15. less than 8ppg in 09 - Marcin Gortat
16. coach - Phil Jackson

Slam
1. 2009 rookie - James Harden
2. Euro - Jorge Garbajosa
3. knucklehead - Lamar Odom
4. international - Samuel Dalembert
5. 08 or 09 allstar - Mo Williams
6. undrafted 09 rookie - Paul Harris
7. 35 and older - Jason Kidd
8. non lottery 2008 - Chris Douglas-Roberts
9. 2nd round 07 or 06 - Marc Gasol
10. white american - Mike Miller
11. 6ft and under - Brevin Knight
12. 7ft and over - Tyson Chandler
13. never played in allstar game - Kevin Durant
14. nonrookie who didnt play in league last year - Robert Horry
15. less than 8ppg in 09 - Bobby Simmons
16. coach - Slam

waydownsouth
1. 2009 rookie - Demar DeRozan
2. Euro - Tony Parker
3. knucklehead - Caron Butler
4. international - David Anderson
5. 08 or 09 allstar - Rip Hamilton
6. undrafted 09 rookie - Josh Shipp
7. 35 and older - Marcus Camby
8. non lottery 2008 - Courtney Lee
9. 2nd round 07 or 06 - Glen Davis
10. white american - Wally Szczerbiak
11. 6ft and under - Aaron Brooks
12. 7ft and over - Chris Kaman
13. never played in allstar game - Emeka Okafor
14. nonrookie who didnt play in league last year - Jason Williams
15. less than 8ppg in 09 - Jamario Moon
16. coach - Byron Scott

amcoolio
1. 2009 rookie - Ricky Rubio
2. Euro - Peja Stojakovic
3. knucklehead - Chauncey Billups
4. international - Andrew Bogut
5. 08 or 09 allstar - Brandon Roy
6. undrafted 09 rookie - Eddie Bermudez
7. 35 and older - Kurt Thomas
8. non lottery 2008 - George Hill
9. 2nd round 07 or 06 - Solomon Jones
10. white american - Chris Anderson
11. 6ft and under - Speedy Claxton
12. 7ft and over - Andrew Bynum
13. never played in allstar game - LaMarcus Aldridge
14. nonrookie who didnt play in league last year - Jannero Pargo
15. less than 8ppg in 09 - Nicholas Batum
16. coach - Larry Brown

olajuwon34
1. 2009 rookie - Jordan Hill
2. Euro - Ben Gordon
3. knucklehead - Gilbert Arenas
4. international - Hedo Turkoglu
5. 08 or 09 allstar - Yao Ming
6. undrafted 09 rookie - Dionte Christmas
7. 35 and older - Michael Finley
8. non lottery 2008 - Roy Hibbert
9. 2nd round 07 or 06 - Paul Millsap
10. white american - Jason Kapono
11. 6ft and under - Will Bynum
12. 7ft and over - Brook Lopez
13. never played in allstar game - Al Jefferson
14. nonrookie who didnt play in league last year - Vasileios Spanoulis
15. less than 8ppg in 09 - Dantay Jones
16. coach - Doc Rivers

e4nf6
1. 2009 rookie - Terrence Williams
2. Euro - Andris Biedrins
3. knucklehead - Josh Smith
4. international - Leandro Barbosa
5. 08 or 09 allstar - Devin Harris
6. undrafted 09 rookie - Dar Tucker
7. 35 and older - Bruce Bowen
8. non lottery 2008 - Marreese Speights
9. 2nd round 07 or 06 - Ryan Hollins
10. white american - Kevin Love
11. 6ft and under - Patty Mills
12. 7ft and over - Zydrunas Ilgauskas
13. never played in allstar game - Deron Williams
14. nonrookie who didnt play in league last year - PJ Brown
15. less than 8ppg in 09 - Anthony Randolph
16. coach - Mike D'antoni

fatlever
1. 2009 rookie - Blake Griffin
2. Euro - Boris Diaw
3. knucklehead - Carmelo Anthony
4. international - Anderson Varejao
5. 08 or 09 allstar - Paul Pierce
6. undrafted 09 rookie - Joe Ingles
7. 35 and older - Theo Ratlif
8. non lottery 2008 - Kyle Weaver
9. 2nd round 07 or 06 - Carl Landry
10. white american - Kyle Korver
11. 6ft and under - DJ Augustin
12. 7ft and over - Andrea Bargnani
13. never played in allstar game - Andre Miller
14. nonrookie who didnt play in league last year- Juan Carlos Navarro
15. less than 8ppg in 09 - Shane Battier
16. coach - Stephanie Ready (featuring the Dragon Slayer)

jdm3
1. 2009 rookie - Jonny Flynn
2. Euro - Mikael Pietrus
3. knucklehead - Danny Granger
4. international - Luol Deng
5. 08 or 09 allstar - Rashard Lewis
6. undrafted 09 rookie - Josh Heytvelt
7. 35 and older - Shaq O'Neal
8. non lottery 2008 - Robin Lopez
9. 2nd round 07 or 06 - Boobie Gibson
10. white american - Troy Murphy
11. 6ft and under - Jameer Nelson
12. 7ft and over - Nenad Krstic
13. never played in allstar game - OJ Mayo
14. nonrookie who didnt play in league last year - Gordon Giricek
15. less than 8ppg in 09 - Eric Dampier
16. coach - Rick Carlisle

LOD
1. 2009 rookie - Austin Daye
2. Euro - Carlos Boozer
3. knucklehead - Ron Artest
4. international - Luis Scola
5. 08 or 09 allstar - Rasheed Wallace
6. undrafted 09 rookie - Greg Paulus
7. 35 and older - Steve Nash
8. non lottery 2008 - Nikola Pekovic
9. 2nd round 07 or 06 - James White
10. white american - Kirk Hinrich
11. 6ft and under - Allen Iverson
12. 7ft and over - Brendan Haywood
13. never played in allstar game - Andre Iguodala
14. nonrookie who didnt play in league last year - Trajan Langdon
15. less than 8ppg in 09 - Joakim Noah
16. coach - Jack Reilly

countyboi
1. 2009 rookie - Tyreke Evans
2. Euro - Kelena Azubuike
3. knucklehead - Amare Stoudemire
4. international - Al horford
5. 08 or 09 allstar - Ray Allen
6. undrafted 09 rookie - Jerel McNeal
7. 35 and older
8. non lottery 2008 - Donte Greene
9. 2nd round 07 or 06 - Leon Powe
10. white american - Brad Miller
11. 6ft and under - Nate Robinson
12. 7ft and over - Greg Oden
13. never played in allstar game - Derrick Rose
14. nonrookie who didnt play in league last year
15. less than 8ppg in 09 - Danilo Gallinari
16. coach - Rick Adelman

Hell yes I'm in.

^Fantasy Draft spidey senses were tingling

I'm in.

Count me in.....

I'll play, first post but ive been lurking...

I am in if thats cool.

One question if we pick a player that meet more than one category can we pick which to apply them too?

jdm3 wrote:One question if we pick a player that meet more than one category can we pick which to apply them too?

definitely. that will be part of the strategy, deciding cat to use for players who are eligible for more than one.

Olajuwon34 wrote:I'll play, first post but ive been lurking...

welcome to the board. are you a bobcats fan? rockets fan? or just a hakeem fan?

Quick question...

Is the object to make the best possible 'talented' squad regardless of positions or is it to actually create a proper squad using positions.

EDIT: Sorry, another question, shouldn't we let the forum decide who wins, not just the participants??

Looks to me like we'll vote once everything is over on which team is most likely to win next season. I don't think positions matter, except that when I vote and there's no center or pg on your roster, I'm docking points. Regardless, I think it will be hard to fill the criteria without getting a position filled squad.

WaydownSouth wrote:Quick question...

Is the object to make the best possible 'talented' squad regardless of positions or is it to actually create a proper squad using positions.

EDIT: Sorry, another question, shouldn't we let the forum decide who wins, not just the participants??

the idea is to create a team that you think has the best chance to win the NBA championship next year. so think of it as if you are a gm constructing a team. how you go about that is up to you. if you want to focus on talent over positions or visa versa that is up to you. that being said, drafting a team of nothing but guards will probably cost you in the votes at the end.

i think once the draft is over, everone can put together their lineups and maybe share a brief explanation on their team style and philosophy. once that is completed we can have a vote.

i'm cool with putting the vote up to the forum. i just figured those that didnt participate wouldnt really care. anyway, i'm up for a forum vote or only participant vote. either if fine by me.

I'm in

I'm hyped......




I'm a little sick of the traditional 'fantasy' games... This one has some challenging criteria's

fatlever wrote:

jdm3 wrote:One question if we pick a player that meet more than one category can we pick which to apply them too?

definitely. that will be part of the strategy, deciding cat to use for players who are eligible for more than one.

Can we decide later? Israel is considered to be in Europe or Asia? Cases like Ginobili (country) can be used both ways, right?

12. and when such player does not have nba.com measurements? (how many of aboive 7-0 is in the league...there is no nba player in the criteria for reason I guess)
Are declared non-drafted player eligible to "be from a draft"?
Just in case age is considered today, 13th July (no, i dont have anyone in mind, just in case someone gets older meanwhile)

Sorry for obsedant formalism.
And of course I´m in.

one more, just to be sure - is rookie in this

14. one non-rookie who did not play a game in the NBA 2008-2009

crieria rookie of 08/09 who didnt play (like Oden before) or rookie of 09/10?

I discovered a major flaw - according to nba.com only 8 players from South America played in nba last year - way too less for 10-12 teams in this game. You should probably merge this category with "rest of the world" or something. There is not so many non-european international players to have them enough in more cats for all team of this game:( (or we would be force to take players inferior to T.Splitter not really having chance to make it to nba).

Check out how many players from the 2nd round of the 07 draft are in the league.. I think I came up with 3.

At least ten had a shot I guess.