a must read: why the bobcats have no idea what they're doing

[marialosmaria]

saw this on twitter

http://thesportcount.com/2009/07/29/the ... yre-doing/

some of it i dont agree with but the rest bummed me out!

[spectre_]

Editor & Owner | Anton Trees: Sydney, 24, a fan of Lamar Odom, the Lakers, and Bruce Springsteen. Once averaged 16.0 boards and 0.3 points over an entire season.

Is that the guy pushing for the Odom trade?

Weak stuff. He should stick to writing about the Lake Show.

[doc.end]

I won't even bother to read it.

[W_HAMILTON]

I don't watch many shows, so I can't make many analogies, but I got into watching this show called Trueblood on HBO. And if anyone is a fan, lately this one lady grows pig hands and does a shakey dance and makes all the people around her screw each other with black glazed over eyes.

Me, that truth guy, and Walt are like the ones that happen on the scene and are like "WTF," Larry Brown is like the pig-handed dancing lady, and you all have become the mesmerized people doing each other.

While that article might have missed a few points, it does point out the god awful waste that has been our draft history. And one of the very few brightspots, we just traded away.

I don't know when the people around here became such homers.

[arh1109]

Obviously some of this is true but there's many other franchises who have made far worse mistakes.

[thruthefire]

Walt Hamilton's post should go directly in the HoF.

Though, Rich, mutombo, e4, Paydro, and whoever else have also thought it was a terrible trade.

[arh1109]

I won't be memorized till we start winning, but this is a hit it or quit it season for us. If we don't make the playoffs, I'm all down for showing Larry the door.

[e4Nf6]

Walt Hamilton's post should go directly in the HoF.

Though, Rich, mutombo, e4, Paydro, and whoever else have also thought it was a terrible trade.

I Loved Ham's confused Metaphor as well....

I appreciate optimism as much as anybody, but If this trade had been proposed by a ball-boy a few days ago EVERYBODY would have panned it. Now that it has happened, everybody is trying to see the bright side. Suddenly we all rewrite history and Mek was useless.

We just traded a better player who has been an iron man for a worse player that has some serious injury issues. We did this while ADDING salary the next 2 years, making it slightly more difficult to sign Felton and or Iverson. As an extra slap in the face, This was probably only done to save Bob Johnson some money, and has nothing to do with Basketball reasons.

I sincerely hope I'm wrong, but I don't think so.....

[CatNation]

most draft picks dont end up as anything special, so it justs magnified on a team thats only been around 5 years. We aren't a free agent destination so we have to make due with the draft. While we've made poor decisions we've also been EXTREMELY unlucky. Combined 3 draft picks away from having CP3, Dwight, and Aldridge in our starting lineup. While we have missed a lot of good players, every team does. I think the guy is completely off about the Lopez thing also, many many people mistakenly think Okafor is a PF or we wanted him at PF and its completely wrong. An Okafor Lopez front court would have been a disaster..

Its a shame that we are being insulted for the shannon brown ammo/vladrad trade as well just because Shannon fits into their system better than he did ours. Anyone who saw him play here and Cleveland could tell he was a scrub with low IQ.

[doc.end]

I just checked what he wrote about our last year draft

In a stacked draft, the ‘Cats — desperate for a true centre to line up alongside Emeka Okafor, a natural power forward — inexplicably passed on Brook Lopez, opting for a miniature point guard with a shoot-first mentality

This was enough to me, he doesn't know anything about our team, pass on that article.

[Paydro70]

I demand to be included in any list of posters most opposed to the trade. That article is nothing I haven't thought or heard before.

[CatNation]

I think making a list of whos for and whos against would be great! possibility of having to eat crow make everything more fun and interesting! whos up for it?

[doc.end]

i would do it rather on bobcatsplanet because currently this board is/could be infested by stats happy troll experts and other bothering individuals (for the record to prevent misunderstandings i.e. outsiders not Bobcats' board members).

[CatNation]

well it could be done to only include board regulars. I don't even have an account on bobcatsplanet
I'm ashamed

[Rich4114]

I don't watch many shows, so I can't make many analogies, but I got into watching this show called Trueblood on HBO. And if anyone is a fan, lately this one lady grows pig hands and does a shakey dance and makes all the people around her screw each other with black glazed over eyes.

Me, that truth guy, and Walt are like the ones that happen on the scene and are like "WTF," Larry Brown is like the pig-handed dancing lady, and you all have become the mesmerized people doing each other.

While that article might have missed a few points, it does point out the god awful waste that has been our draft history. And one of the very few brightspots, we just traded away.

I don't know when the people around here became such homers.

LOL, I watch this too and you're completely right. Just make sure you're completely aware I think this trade sucks too though. A year ago, 2 years ago I might have punched a hole through the wall when learning of something like this. Now, I'm numb to it and can do nothing but laugh and stupidly pay for my league pass so I can watch us lose 70% of our games.

As a former hornets fan, I gotta say I've been REALLY spoiled. As much as it sucked having them trade their superstars, they always made the best out of their assets and were almost always a playoff team. The Bobcats? Other than getting lucky by having Wallace in the expansion draft, they haven't made a single positive move with the assets they've owned. I refuse to look at the positive side of this when everyone outside of this organization is basically saying "WTF".

Here's another article on Yahoo! about how they feel bad for us CLT fans.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_d ... nba,179236

[marialosmaria]

that yahoo article is great.

both articles posted here should be required reading for rod higgins.

[thruthefire]

Hollinger thinks we got shafted and so does Ford.

[spectre_]

Here's another article on Yahoo! about how they feel bad for us CLT fans.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_d ... nba,179236

Raja Bell(notes), Boris Diaw(notes), Vladimir Radmanovic(notes) - maybe. Dump those guys, if at all possible. I know it's tough, but try. And don't trade for them in the first place.

So you guys are just looking for columnists that agree with you no matter what now?

Hollinger thinks we got shafted and so does Ford.

LOL, the same guy who said Kerr should have worn a ski mask when we made the trade for Boris & Raja!

I didn't realize this was a "Let's Wallow In Our Misery" thread. I'll try and ignore it in the future.

[W_HAMILTON]

I appreciate optimism as much as anybody, but If this trade had been proposed by a ball-boy a few days ago EVERYBODY would have panned it.

Yes.

I even had one of those glass-is-half-full moments last night. But I had one of those after the Adam Morrison pick, too. This might be another one of those trades that doesn't turn out to be god awful for us, but yet again, we misuse assets by selling low and buying high. I'm sure people will get all giddy when Tyson scores an explosive 6 points, but people underappreciate Okafor for what he quietly did.

It's like I said before the Richardson trade; I'd almost rather lose with Richardson than win slightly more with Diaw/Bell. It's the same thing in this situation. I don't think Chandler propels us into the playoffs, and there's a good chance that wherever we are able to get with him, we could have done so with Okafor, too. Brown has come in and traded away our lovable losers for guys that aren't as lovable, and lose a little bit less.

As I said, I'd rather have a 33-win team full of guys that I like rather than a 37-win team full of guys that I barely even recognize.

[Walt Cronkite]

I watch True Blood, too. That was awesome.