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ty 4191 wrote:eyeatoma wrote:ty 4191 wrote:
The entire West is over .500 against the East this year.
The mental gymnastics. Lol.
You said "The West is ass". Yet, the East is beating them this year, overall. The West has a .484 winning percentage against the East this year.
Who's doing mental gymnastics? You are.
eyeatoma wrote:I thought we're not counting previous seasons?
ty 4191 wrote:eyeatoma wrote:I thought we're not counting previous seasons?
Name an MVP or DPOY who missed 26% of his team's games (that's Embiid this year).
Name an all time great player who missed roughly 323 of his team's 718 games ages 20-28.
He's never healthy. It's a shame because he's awesome. But he'll never be an all time great player until he starts playing 75+ game seasons, for an extended period of time, which is extremely unlikely.
WarriorGM wrote:Interesting how Curry was edited out of the poll and his votes were assigned to Durant.
bisme37 wrote:WarriorGM wrote:Interesting how Curry was edited out of the poll and his votes were assigned to Durant.
Durant needed to be there but I agree it's not ideal that he automatically got Curry's previous votes. But the thread will be locked when it gets around 100 pages, so there will be a new thread and poll soon anyway.
I understand my Dubs friends being grumpy about it but I don't think Curry has as good of a case for MVP as other players in the poll at the moment since he's out with injury and his team is below .500. But once he comes back we can look at it again and potentially put him back in.
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Sharkboy242 wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
Isn't that what Trae Young fans used to say about Luka, that he didn't make the conference finals? Passing is just another facet of offense, it's on the same side of the court Jokic is elite at, on the other side of the floor he hasn't been very good this season, certainly not as good as last season. There are 2 sides of the court, both are equally as important, one guy is elite on both sides, the other isn't. Smart people also know how to quote properly without furiously hitting submit so much that they keep doubling their replies.
Two view basketball as a dichotomy of two sides is just basic as hell and overtly simplistic.
Is rebounding not apart of defense?
Are steals/deflections not apart of defense?
Does making your opponent work when you're on offense not affect their defense?
Things are intertwined, to think otherwise is wrong. There’s a reason that stats dont paint jokic the way you’re trying to. also you still didn’t acknowledge how many Philly wins Embiid has actually contributed to. Keep ducking that fact homie.
Also, apologies for the formatting but this site isn’t exactly mobile friendly.
We won't agree, I'm not a fan of either team, but as an outside observer Embiid definitely has the edge on MVP this season, Giannis is the favorite. Jokic is great, but his defense will be his downfall, just as health is Embiids.
WarriorGM wrote:bisme37 wrote:WarriorGM wrote:Interesting how Curry was edited out of the poll and his votes were assigned to Durant.
Durant needed to be there but I agree it's not ideal that he automatically got Curry's previous votes. But the thread will be locked when it gets around 100 pages, so there will be a new thread and poll soon anyway.
I understand my Dubs friends being grumpy about it but I don't think Curry has as good of a case for MVP as other players in the poll at the moment since he's out with injury and his team is below .500. But once he comes back we can look at it again and potentially put him back in.
Not ideal is an understatement. It is basically a lie. At least 32 people voted for Curry. If the poll is to have any integrity whatsoever his name could not be taken out of it unless it was clearly restarted or notice clearly given. I don't see either having been done.
bisme37 wrote:WarriorGM wrote:Interesting how Curry was edited out of the poll and his votes were assigned to Durant.
Durant needed to be there but I agree it's not ideal that he automatically got Curry's previous votes (it's just what the poll did on it's own). But the thread will be locked when it gets around 100 pages, so there will be a new thread and poll soon anyway.
I understand my Dubs friends being grumpy about it but I don't think Curry has as good of a case for MVP as other players in the poll at the moment since he's out with injury and his team is below .500. But once he comes back we can look at it again and potentially put him back in.
eyeatoma wrote:bisme37 wrote:WarriorGM wrote:Interesting how Curry was edited out of the poll and his votes were assigned to Durant.
Durant needed to be there but I agree it's not ideal that he automatically got Curry's previous votes (it's just what the poll did on it's own). But the thread will be locked when it gets around 100 pages, so there will be a new thread and poll soon anyway.
I understand my Dubs friends being grumpy about it but I don't think Curry has as good of a case for MVP as other players in the poll at the moment since he's out with injury and his team is below .500. But once he comes back we can look at it again and potentially put him back in.
This poll is really dated man. Can't we just redo the thread? Lots of people have Jokic/Embiid/Giannis on top. Really feel like it doesn't represent where the teams are.
bisme37 wrote:WarriorGM wrote:bisme37 wrote:
Durant needed to be there but I agree it's not ideal that he automatically got Curry's previous votes. But the thread will be locked when it gets around 100 pages, so there will be a new thread and poll soon anyway.
I understand my Dubs friends being grumpy about it but I don't think Curry has as good of a case for MVP as other players in the poll at the moment since he's out with injury and his team is below .500. But once he comes back we can look at it again and potentially put him back in.
Not ideal is an understatement. It is basically a lie. At least 32 people voted for Curry. If the poll is to have any integrity whatsoever his name could not be taken out of it unless it was clearly restarted or notice clearly given. I don't see either having been done.
I mean it's a poll for fun on a basketball website and it's changed a bunch of times since the season started and everyone has their take on how it should be run. Sorry you are upset though. The poll will be restarted very soon and until then folks are free to change their vote at any time.
Sharkboy242 wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Sharkboy242 wrote:Jokic won the past two seasons because he had better individual stats than Embiid. What’s hard to understand about that?
Yes the sixers are 19-12… but Embiid has missed like 5 games. Does he get credit for those Ws? Why would you not subtract them from that win total?
And once again, regardless of team stuff Jokic has better individual numbers. Cry about it all you want, its facts.
When do you plan on talking about defense?
Basketball success is measured by wins… did we crown the Celtics last year for being the best defensive team? I dont get the argument. The Nuggets have a better record than the Sixers. Do we make the standings based on defensive rating? Is that what you’re saying? Pick a better argument.
NoDopeOnSundays wrote:Sharkboy242 wrote:NoDopeOnSundays wrote:
When do you plan on talking about defense?
Basketball success is measured by wins… did we crown the Celtics last year for being the best defensive team? I dont get the argument. The Nuggets have a better record than the Sixers. Do we make the standings based on defensive rating? Is that what you’re saying? Pick a better argument.
Why are you quoting me again, with the same thing you said like 2 hours ago, which was already addressed?
bisme37 wrote:eyeatoma wrote:bisme37 wrote:
Durant needed to be there but I agree it's not ideal that he automatically got Curry's previous votes (it's just what the poll did on it's own). But the thread will be locked when it gets around 100 pages, so there will be a new thread and poll soon anyway.
I understand my Dubs friends being grumpy about it but I don't think Curry has as good of a case for MVP as other players in the poll at the moment since he's out with injury and his team is below .500. But once he comes back we can look at it again and potentially put him back in.
This poll is really dated man. Can't we just redo the thread? Lots of people have Jokic/Embiid/Giannis on top. Really feel like it doesn't represent where the teams are.
It's kinda killing me how you think Embiid is going to lead the poll when it gets restarted. It's the same people voting whether it's this poll or the next one and if they haven't taken time to change their vote to Embiid I don't know why they're going to take time to vote for him in the next one. There are a lot of good candidates this year and we all have our own take.
But yeah sure. I'm bored and caught off guard by how serious this is to people so let's just lock this and make a new one I guess. Give me a few minutes.