What the HELL was the NBA/Silver thinking involving Karl Malone so much in all-star weekend?

TheGOATWill · Post #181 » by **TheGOATWill** » Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:03 pm

Karl Malone Junior Gymnastics Camp. Who's signing their kids up?

I didn't think so.

I beg to differ · Post #182 » by **I beg to differ** » Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:25 pm

Realgm.

Where ''Yeah, a grown man impregnating a young girl is never good, but'' happens.

Post #183 » by **Capn'O** » Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:45 pm

Drakeem wrote:
GinWeary wrote:I can't believe some people attempt to create nuances in a discussion about a 20 year old man raping a 12 year old based on the technical definition of a pedophile. FOX "News" has been an amazing example and teacher to many of you.

If that's you; you're disgusting.

Karl Malone raped a 12 year old girl. RAPED.

I could not care less if her already having a period removes Malone from being a "Pedophile" by mental health standards. None the less, Karl Malone was a predator.

She was 12. Unable to give consent. Therefore, Malone RAPED her! What is so difficult about that?

You're disgusting.

Much of the current backlash is not even about Malone, but about the NBA's/Silver's CHOICE to HONOR a CHILD RAPIST.

If your most important takeaway is misusing the term "pedophile", then you have a lot of problems.
Yeah, I thought this would be a cut and dry case of everyone being in agreeance that it was a bad look for the NBA to bring him in, fully knowing that his issues are public knowledge.

This thread is downright scary. I can see the argument for him being able to be on that stage (at what point are you cleared of your crimes, etc, etc) as that can become an ethics debate, but some people in here were pretty adamant about trying to make it seem like it wasn't that bad.

I wonder how those people would react if their 12 year old niece/daughter/family friend/cousin came home and told them that a 20 year old knocked them up. I hate that we even have go down the route of using personal anecdotes to talk about how messed up the act was.

Not only that, Malone doubled down and told the kid that he just wasn't going to be there for him, straight up.

Being a marketing figure for the NBA, or any company also generally means that you have to keep your personal life as clean as you can because as much as you're being celebrated for your basketball play, you're also a public figure. Super, SUPER weird blunder IMO.

Correct. What Malone did was disgusting, full stop. And, as you said, he doubled down.

The enlarged text is the question of interest. I'm not fully comfortable with Malone being as front and center as he was but at a certain point you move on. The family of the victim has. Malone had a HOF career in Utah and his absence would have raised the same questions that his presence did. I do wonder if his recent reconciliation with his son played into the decision to feature him but that's something we can't know. I could see it that at some point somebody told him if he wanted to be acknowledged by the league... make some effort.

There are more prescient cases right now. I'll be pretty miffed if Bridges in particular is back in the league next year, for example, and wouldn't watch anything he was in. He's still clearly on the clock AFAIC.

Statlanta · Post #184 » by **Statlanta** » Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:48 pm

Personally I think their only major mistake was brining him out for the Dunk Contest since he hasn't participated so they didn't have to use him. Private events like a NBA Legends Brunch, or adults only things should be available to Malone given the circumstances.

The NBA should have known all the implications an All-Star Weekend in Utah was gonna have any way before hand.

Post #185 » by **infinite11285** » Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:50 pm

Dirk wrote:
KyRo23 wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:The victim was supposedly in a bar with a fake ID

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Do you have a link for this? I was unable to find this claim

Yes, we are all waiting for the link and the source please.

It’s insanely wild to me that anyone would make up such a claim; especially given nearly everything can be verified online.

Childs · Post #186 » by **Childs** » Tue Feb 21, 2023 11:57 pm

baldur wrote:sick of cancel culture and people who think of themselves as sinless and pure.

Cancel Culture is what Roald Dahl books are going through right now. That's statutory rape.

Skin · Post #187 » by **Skin** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:28 am

Regardless of the fault, I hope the child that was born does not think that they were a mistake and I hope Karl Malone loves and cares for him/her.

Post #188 » by **infinite11285** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:40 am

Skin wrote:Regardless of the fault, I hope the child that was born does not think that they were a mistake and I hope Karl Malone loves and cares for him/her.

That child is Demetress Bell and he didn’t care to be in his life until he signed a long-term deal with the Philadelphia Eagles years ago. He wasn’t a presence in one of his other daughter's lives until she became a 3x time champion with the Detroit Shock. Of his seven kids, he vehemently denied 3 of them until they were adults and put those families through hell.

He’s sincerely one of the worst men in sports, and I don’t care how his advocates receive that fact.

Buckeye-NBAFan · Post #189 » by **Buckeye-NBAFan** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 12:46 am

infinite11285 wrote:
Dirk wrote:
KyRo23 wrote:
Do you have a link for this? I was unable to find this claim

Yes, we are all waiting for the link and the source please.

It’s insanely wild to me that anyone would make up such a claim; especially given nearly everything can be verified online.

George Santos is a US Congressman

Fairview4Life · Post #190 » by **Fairview4Life** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:10 am

Childs wrote:Cancel Culture is what Roald Dahl books are going through right now.

My man, the Roald Dahl books are going through a "The Dahl estate, who owns the copyright, are trying to make more money" culture right now.

Childs · Post #191 » by **Childs** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:51 am

Buckeye-NBAFan wrote:
infinite11285 wrote:
Dirk wrote:
Yes, we are all waiting for the link and the source please.

It’s insanely wild to me that anyone would make up such a claim; especially given nearly everything can be verified online.

George Santos is a US Congressman

Watch on YouTube

Sofia · Post #192 » by **Sofia** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:57 am

danvato wrote:
Taj FTW wrote:Silver gets a lot of flak for his decision making around here. This may be his most baffling decision. Karl got honored multiple times during the all-star weekend. He was out there with Kareem and LeBron. He won Legend of the Year at the NBA brunch.

What the hell is Silver doing here? Not involving Malone in the activities is such a no brainer. I just don't understand it.

jesus christ, people complain about the most random ****.

what the hell was the commissioner thinking by including the team legend when that city honest the all-star game? seriously? would you have preferred they honor Stockton instead?

Do you know what movies Harvey Weinstein produced? Why wouldn’t they still invite and celebrate with him at the Oscar’s?

Sofia · Post #193 » by **Sofia** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 1:58 am

TheGOATWill wrote:
Sprewell4Three wrote:
KyRo23 wrote:
Yeah.... no

I mean you can be upset about them not filing charges, but you really can't blame how a victim decides to go forward. That is just 100% wrong. If someone has a crime committed against them and they decide to not press charges and move on, people should be MORE upset with the victim?

You don't have to know a 12 year old to know that this is Malone's fault. I honestly can't believe you just said that

The victim was supposedly in a bar with a fake ID

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Ever been around a 12 year old? There are a lot of very obvious signs they are 12. A quick 5 off the top of my head...

1. And this is a big one, their face.
2. Their voice
3. Everyone they know is also 12
4. Loves chicken nuggets
5. Can't name a president before trump

Studcrackers?

Post #194 » by **HomoSapien** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:07 am

There’s a lot of people in this thread revealing a lot of shockingly bad opinions.

Pharmcat · Post #195 » by **Pharmcat** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:10 am

HomoSapien wrote:There’s a lot of people in this thread revealing a lot of shockingly bad opinions.

This thread is scary with how people think on the issue of statuary rape

Yeggo Poleggo · Post #196 » by **Yeggo Poleggo** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:18 am

OdomFan wrote:
pacers33 wrote:He should be getting the Chris Benoit treatment and erased from NBA history as much as possible. Just one of those disgusting people that will pay for it heavily on his next spin.

Why? he didn't kill anybody. Yeah, a grown man impregnating a young girl is never good, but when it comes down to it he's owned up to his mistake and made things right with the son that came from that mistake.

That really should be the end of it as far as us fans discussing basketball online are concerned, but nah because everyone on the internet feels "entitled" to hang on to hate over things that has nothing to do with them. With that being said, I hope to see more of Karl Malone. Like it or not he's still the greatest player in Utah Jazz history along with John Stockton. So he should get to be up there with the legends just like the rest of those legends.

Bro, he had sex with an 8th grader when he was about to graduate college as a senior.

Thats **** terrible.

cdubbz · Post #197 » by **cdubbz** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:09 am

Because whats done is done. The womans family knew about it then and Malone and the child spoke when he was 17. It's between them now and it is what it is.

Pennebaker · Post #198 » by **Pennebaker** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:24 am

Taj FTW wrote:Silver gets a lot of flak for his decision making around here. This may be his most baffling decision. Karl got honored multiple times during the all-star weekend. He was out there with Kareem and LeBron. He won Legend of the Year at the NBA brunch.

What the hell is Silver doing here? Not involving Malone in the activities is such a no brainer. I just don't understand it.

They were in Salt Lake City. We shouldn't treat Malone as if he was convicted of a crime.

I'm assuming you're saying it's disagreeable because of his relationship with a teenager when he was a sophomore in college. But Malone was never charged with a crime because of a loophole in Louisiana state law at the time. The only legal issue was one of paternity for child support. I suppose the child support issue could also be grounds for a morality based rejection of Malone.

The NBA named the All-Star MVP trophy after Kobe Bryant. A lot of people complained about that too but remember Kobe Bryant was also never convicted of a crime.

bstein14 · Post #199 » by **bstein14** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:29 am

If a few years ago rookie Zion Williamson had a sex video leaked with a 12 year old 6th grader he's be in prison still and out of the league for life.

Not sure how the fact that it happened 40 years ago makes it ok for so many here.

I thought the same thing when I saw him, why is he even there. He honestly shouldn't even be in the hall of fame given what we know. It would be like Bill Cosby winning a lifetime achievement award at the Oscars.

Taj FTW · Post #200 » by **Taj FTW** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:33 am

Pennebaker wrote:
Taj FTW wrote:Silver gets a lot of flak for his decision making around here. This may be his most baffling decision. Karl got honored multiple times during the all-star weekend. He was out there with Kareem and LeBron. He won Legend of the Year at the NBA brunch.

What the hell is Silver doing here? Not involving Malone in the activities is such a no brainer. I just don't understand it.

They were in Salt Lake City. We shouldn't treat Malone as if he was convicted of a crime.

I'm assuming you're saying it's disagreeable because of his relationship with a teenager when he was a sophomore in college. But Malone was never charged with a crime because of a loophole in Louisiana state law at the time. The only legal issue was one of paternity for child support. I suppose the child support issue could also be grounds for a morality based rejection of Malone.

The NBA named the All-Star MVP trophy after Kobe Bryant. A lot of people complained about that too but remember Kobe Bryant was also never convicted of a crime.

That's good he found a loophole in the legal system. All is forgiven then.