Do you think Boston regrets the Jaylen Brown contract?

[hugepatsfan]

They should get rid of Brown and take back as little salary as possible, but they won't. He's a fine player, but so are White, Holiday and (when healthy) Porzingis. But Stevens seems fixated on the Tatum-Brown pairing.

Tatum (when he returns), Brown and a bunch of role players won't produce a title. Tatum, White, Holiday and Porzingis might, especially if they can keep their other useful players like Hauser and Kornet.

White will be there in either case. It’s probably Brown or Porzingis/Holiday. And that’s an injury prone Porzingis into his 30s and Holiday into his mid to later 30s.

[Curmudgeon]

I don't think Holiday's age is a problem. He's always been in good shape, like Horford. And Brown will be 30 when Tatum returns.

Superficially it makes sense to trade the older players. But together they will be making only a few million million more than Brown makes by himself. And they will have to unload Hauser and let Kornet walk if they keep Brown.

But they are not going to do what I am suggesting, they are going to do what you are suggesting. So we'll see how it works out.

[robbie84]

It's flawed? So you think a team should pay Jalen Brown the same money it pays Jokic or Luka or SGA? You have your super stars and then you have your stars. If you're paying your stars the same money other people are paying their super stars it makes it really hard to win. Personally I think paying the 15th best player the same money you'd pay the best player is flawed, especially in a salary cap league. but hey, feel free to disagree.

NBA teams have microscopic windows for championship caliber/competitive level teams. Letting a guy walk to another team and hoping to replace him for a better value player, whilst replacing that players overall impact is basically impossible.
Who do the Celtics replace Jaylen Brown with if they don't pay him and he goes to a higher bidder for $5m or $10 million more?

You're basically saying they should sacrifice the championship they won and let Brown walk.
Do you think they win that championship without Brown?
Luka, SGA and Jokic will all be making WAY more than Brown on their next deals.

Again, who do they replace him with? Who was available on the market at the time with an equal or better impact that they could get with less money as you suggest?

You're not living in reality. You're living in a fantasy land where you can do things that you want and the market plays no part in player salary/demand.

I didn't say let him walk, I said don't make him the highest paid player in the league. First of all, he wasn't a free agent, was he? He signed an extension, not a new contract. So he couldn't 'walk'. So you're wrong there.

Second, if they let him play 2023-2024 out and then he were to leave in free agency, he couldn't get a contract as big as the Celtics could offer right? So why not just offer him what he could get if he left last instead? So he'd get the security of the money right away and there's no real point in waiting a year and going somewhere else because he can't get more money anyway. And if he doesn't take it, then trade him. He's 26 years old. You'd be able to get a lot for him, and just keep building around Tatum and White and all the pieces you get back for Brown, etc.

Now you guys are about to get crushed by the 2nd Apron and not only have to lose Porzingis and Holliday, but may have to attach assets to do so.

He helped BOS win it all.

If BOS had failed to win one they might regret it. It was an expensive investment that paid off.

Not really, it was an extension, so the year they won the title he was still being paid the last year of his previous deal. This was the first year of his new contract.

So insult the guy after his All NBA, All Star season...and your second most important player, and then hope it:

a) doesn't impact the locker room or his overall play for you.

b) hope that you can replace him when he walks to a team who offers him the max money he's allowed as a free agent (because he's not re-signing with the Celtics out of principle after they insulted him) and other teams are selling him the role of 1st option.

With a healthy Jaylen Brown and Jason Tatum, the Celtics are contenders in the east for another 4/5 years. You want to risk letting Brown walk because you don't want to go over the apron? Who are they replacing Jaylen Brown with while Tatum is in his prime? That's All NBA/All Star caliber and faceguards Luka Doncic in the finals like Brown did?

If you want to play Monday morning quarterback, Brown isn't the guy who you risk walking by insulting him. You don't give Jrue and Porzingis the huge deals and live with the consequences.
The All Star, All NBA guy is the one you have to overpay for to keep the championship contender in place.

[Stan34]

Jaylen played most part of this season on a bad knee. He had a surgery last week.

Even said that: in 2 of the 3 playoff games without Tatum he had 36/10/5 63%FG and 71% from three vs a great Magic defense. And 26/8/12 with 63% FG and 60% from three.

People care about all NBA and things like that. Players like Sabonis, Simmons and so on made more all NBA than JB but be able to win is another planet.
Jaylen has always been a player you can trust when playoff comes.

The Celtics are a smart franchise, they dont care about win share, on/off and so on. Analytics are good but you have to manage them in a good way.
The most important thing is win rings and going deep in post season. Brown clinch those stats better than 95% of the NBA current players.

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