It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers

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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#221 » by JonHeist » Sat Jun 14, 2025 5:51 pm

PushDaRock wrote:
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pepe1991 wrote:
You wish Bucks are in Nuggets position.

But no.

Nuggets control all of their first round picks. Bucks are doomed.
Nuggets have tradable players under age of 30. Bucks ....have Kuzma :lol:
Nuggets just passed first round of playoffs and gave OKC 7 games... Bucks didn't pass first round of playoffs in 3 years
Nuggets have best player in the world that can carry them to 50 wins even on West.... Giannis is great but isn't Jokić

Nuggets made some questionable decisions with coaching... Bucks hired Glenn :lol:


Thing is, Nuggets have more than enough wiggle room to retool roster. Bucks are done.

Bucks have like 5 men under contracts, no salary cap, no picks, one of players who is under contract costs $60M is 35 and blew up achilles.
Where can Bucks get talent from ? One MLE and disabled player provision that only allows them to sign somebody on one year deal.
47th pick?


Bucks are beyond screwed. They are unfixable for next 3 years. By that point GIannis will be 34-35 and too old to retool roster around ( not that you guys attract any FAs to being with),

Nobody is "crying " because you won't trade Giannis, normal people just find that decision bizarre.

In your head riding to sunset with Giannis sounds romantic ending of a movie. In reality you are gearing for 4-5 years of 30-35 wins at most, frustration by coaching , fans and Giannis himself as his talent fades away.
AND AFTER he retires, you still have to do damn rebuild that can't really start until 2031.

We talk about 6 years time frame of slow death to even start something new. 6 years ago Raptors were champions and Kawhi was alleged new face of nba.

Imo, at some point Giannis will still get too frustrated and ask out. And it will be for lower talent and haul you can get in trades today.

You mentioned Dirk, Dirk spent career on teams that were winning 50 + games, he only won title when he was 32 and they still had okey teams even when he was 35. At the tail end of his career Mavs got Luka from draft.
Guess who is not getting anything due no draft picks from 2031?


Obviously I do not care or respect your assessment of the Bucks and their future going forward, your projections are just **** from your ass to fling. I see no reason to address them, who are you? Why should I care? Go play 2K or something to tear it down.

Giannis will stay, the top of the east is historically weak and it has been shown that it’s more about who is healthy and who gets hot at the right time than paper rosters. The Bucks have had their best players injured in the playoffs every year since the championship, the Bucks aren’t winning without Giannis no matter who he has as sidekick.


The East is historically weak at the top? Did Boston and Cleveland not just both win over 60 games? Is Indiana not giving OKC everything they can handle in the finals?



boston is no longer Boston and the bucks did no worse against the pacers than the cavs did -- cavs had a great regular season and will presumably be the 1 seed again next year, but the top 3 of Cavs/Pacers/Knicks next year is really really weak
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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#222 » by Bernman » Sat Jun 14, 2025 6:09 pm

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In this CBA no team is touching Dame without an unprotected pick coming back.


The flip-side is Dame's contract is a huge asset at the following trade deadline. Here's 63m in relief for good players, if the Bucks want to play it that way. Otherwise they take the cap space in 2 seasons themselves. Maybe Dame would restructure if it gets them a 2nd star a yr earlier.

They have options in the near future. In the interim the plan would be to lean in on KPJ's +21 per 100 w/ Giannis & 21/7/7/2.3 per 36 slash line. + elite team shooting & solid d. In reality that's a path to still being good to very good. This 30-40 win talk, if Giannis plays 70+, is wildly ignorant.

If people actually cared about the Bucks they'd call for the firing of Doc. The Bucks were 32-14 before he arrived. 15-17 last season. 48-34 this one & in the playoffs he torpedoed the team w/ under-performing jumbo lineups. Could we at least see this for a half season post Doc & Dame?


Problem with this is wasting a whole season of Giannis to hold onto an asset that is considered cap relief. Trading Dame now and bringing back two to three quality players could mean the Bucks are back in the White House. I still think Utah and the Bucks are perfect trade partners. Dame for Sexton and Collins. The Bucks can keep those guys if they fit well or let them walk. The Bucks send their 31st pick.


I'd rather see if we could get in on Austin Reaves market to try and refuse a trip to the White House 1st. Give the '31 1st to Utah still, Sexton & Portis to LAL, & the Bucks get Reaves. Maybe Utah gives LAL the true center they may want too in Kessler for multiple future 1sts.
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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#223 » by Daddy 801 » Sat Jun 14, 2025 10:04 pm

Bernman wrote:
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The flip-side is Dame's contract is a huge asset at the following trade deadline. Here's 63m in relief for good players, if the Bucks want to play it that way. Otherwise they take the cap space in 2 seasons themselves. Maybe Dame would restructure if it gets them a 2nd star a yr earlier.

They have options in the near future. In the interim the plan would be to lean in on KPJ's +21 per 100 w/ Giannis & 21/7/7/2.3 per 36 slash line. + elite team shooting & solid d. In reality that's a path to still being good to very good. This 30-40 win talk, if Giannis plays 70+, is wildly ignorant.

If people actually cared about the Bucks they'd call for the firing of Doc. The Bucks were 32-14 before he arrived. 15-17 last season. 48-34 this one & in the playoffs he torpedoed the team w/ under-performing jumbo lineups. Could we at least see this for a half season post Doc & Dame?


Problem with this is wasting a whole season of Giannis to hold onto an asset that is considered cap relief. Trading Dame now and bringing back two to three quality players could mean the Bucks are back in the White House. I still think Utah and the Bucks are perfect trade partners. Dame for Sexton and Collins. The Bucks can keep those guys if they fit well or let them walk. The Bucks send their 31st pick.


I'd rather see if we could get in on Austin Reaves market to try and refuse a trip to the White House 1st. Give the '31 1st to Utah still, Sexton & Portis to LAL, & the Bucks get Reaves. Maybe Utah gives LAL the true center they may want too in Kessler for multiple future 1sts.


What’s funny is I wrote, or tried to write, the championships and it autocorrected it to White House. No idea how that happened and funny because it actually works.

Anyways…..I don’t see Kessler being moved. All the offers are less than what it’s worth for the Jazz. And if the new GM Ainge Jr does the smart thing we will have no vets besides Lauri and we may even trade him to Philly. If we make all the trades I hope we make, Kessler will be our “vet”.
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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#224 » by doogie_hauser » Sun Jun 15, 2025 1:21 am

JonHeist wrote:
PushDaRock wrote:
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Obviously I do not care or respect your assessment of the Bucks and their future going forward, your projections are just **** from your ass to fling. I see no reason to address them, who are you? Why should I care? Go play 2K or something to tear it down.

Giannis will stay, the top of the east is historically weak and it has been shown that it’s more about who is healthy and who gets hot at the right time than paper rosters. The Bucks have had their best players injured in the playoffs every year since the championship, the Bucks aren’t winning without Giannis no matter who he has as sidekick.


The East is historically weak at the top? Did Boston and Cleveland not just both win over 60 games? Is Indiana not giving OKC everything they can handle in the finals?



boston is no longer Boston and the bucks did no worse against the pacers than the cavs did -- cavs had a great regular season and will presumably be the 1 seed again next year, but the top 3 of Cavs/Pacers/Knicks next year is really really weak



The Pistons and Magic will be stronger next season too. Don't underestimate the East.
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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#225 » by stillgotgame » Sun Jun 15, 2025 1:23 am

Lol at Giannis leaving the Bucks..

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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#226 » by th87 » Mon Jun 16, 2025 10:10 am

th87 wrote:
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Just trade Giannis to Houston and get some Brooks, Jabari, Sheppard,picks back, at least you will have some future
. Something. Right now it's less than nothing. It's empty space and 5-7 years until you can even start rebuild. Basically looking toward decade of existence in vacuum.


You should be ashamed for putting something so absurd into existence.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

*Your team* literally gave up 4 unprotected firsts for Bane, but Giannis' value is that garbage pile you put up there.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Time to accept you don't know what you're talking about.
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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#227 » by pepe1991 » Mon Jun 16, 2025 10:27 am

th87 wrote:
th87 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:
Just trade Giannis to Houston and get some Brooks, Jabari, Sheppard,picks back, at least you will have some future
. Something. Right now it's less than nothing. It's empty space and 5-7 years until you can even start rebuild. Basically looking toward decade of existence in vacuum.


You should be ashamed for putting something so absurd into existence.


:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

*Your team* literally gave up 4 unprotected firsts for Bane, but Giannis' value is that garbage pile you put up there.

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

Time to accept you don't know what you're talking about.


Terrible move. :dontknow:
It's not problem that it's Bane ( good player, not perfect fit, still no PG in sight) , giving up army of picks for not all star is crazy. And giving up so many unprotected pick is flat out dumb nowadays.

btw where did i proposed "garbage" Giannis trade? :lol:

Giannis for haul of Smith, Sheppard, 10th pick in 25, 2027 Nets pick swap, Suns unprotected '27 + whatever else

Literally,start of "my" trade is Giannis for 3 lottery selected players
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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#228 » by SirChurros » Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:10 pm

Jabari Smith is garbage. That’s where you went wrong.
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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#229 » by JayMKE » Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:24 pm

SirChurros wrote:Jabari Smith is garbage. That’s where you went wrong.


So is Sheppard who doesn’t really even look like an NBA player at this point
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Re: It is absoloutely Negligent of the Milwaukee Bucks to not field Giannis offers 

Post#230 » by benson13 » Mon Jun 16, 2025 6:32 pm

NyKnicks1714 wrote:
TheAlchemist wrote:There's no way around it, and I think this should be a separate post from the Giannis trade request. The Bucks are in deep, deep trouble.

Cause let's be honest, this is a horrible horrible situation right now.


This is misguided. Treadmill team with a top 3 player who the fans love is a pretty damn good situation for a franchise like Milwaukee. It will be a long time before they get a player of his caliber again. If he's happy to stay then they are absolutely right to keep him.


This hits the nail on the head.

Just to add, it would be dumb to be in a hurry to trade Giannis. Bucks fans are four years removed from seeing their team win a title. The centerpiece of that championship is still playing excellent basketball. Which means those fans are still interested in the team and buying tickets. Trading Giannis hurts that interest and there's no guarantee the team will return to contention anytime soon. So as a basketball move or a financial move, it makes sense to keep him for the time being if he's happy in Milwaukee.

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