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One quick, immediate solution could,be hold a “worldwide” tourney, yearly, but with G Leagues top teams entering the tourney with European teams. To do that, you’d have to have teams adtually focus on improving G League, development in the G League, but maybe you add an extra round to the draft and make it a bit more like MLB style, you draft a guy in the 3rd and he plays on a ‘minor league” G League roster.
For example, the Thunder basically control a ton of upcoming drafts, but only have 15 roster spots, so they’re just going to just as likely end up trading a bunch of those picks instead of making them. With this, there’s more of a foucus on player development and they can actually draft and develop their minor system without having to gut their picks due to roster constraints. And If that G League team ends up good, it could potentially end up competing with some of these Euro League teams. Like, say Walter Clayton air was drafted by the Thunder late first, and since they have so many actual NBA guards on the roster, he ends up on the G League team. If that teams good and sent to the tourney with the EuroLeague teams, I’d have interest in watching that game.
For example, the Thunder basically control a ton of upcoming drafts, but only have 15 roster spots, so they’re just going to just as likely end up trading a bunch of those picks instead of making them. With this, there’s more of a foucus on player development and they can actually draft and develop their minor system without having to gut their picks due to roster constraints. And If that G League team ends up good, it could potentially end up competing with some of these Euro League teams. Like, say Walter Clayton air was drafted by the Thunder late first, and since they have so many actual NBA guards on the roster, he ends up on the G League team. If that teams good and sent to the tourney with the EuroLeague teams, I’d have interest in watching that game.
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Bucks4005 wrote:One quick, immediate solution could,be hold a “worldwide” tourney, yearly, but with G Leagues top teams entering the tourney with European teams. To do that, you’d have to have teams adtually focus on improving G League, development in the G League, but maybe you add an extra round to the draft and make it a bit more like MLB style, you draft a guy in the 3rd and he plays on a ‘minor league” G League roster.
For example, the Thunder basically control a ton of upcoming drafts, but only have 15 roster spots, so they’re just going to just as likely end up trading a bunch of those picks instead of making them. With this, there’s more of a foucus on player development and they can actually draft and develop their minor system without having to gut their picks due to roster constraints. And If that G League team ends up good, it could potentially end up competing with some of these Euro League teams. Like, say Walter Clayton air was drafted by the Thunder late first, and since they have so many actual NBA guards on the roster, he ends up on the G League team. If that teams good and sent to the tourney with the EuroLeague teams, I’d have interest in watching that game.
Someone gets it. This is a European G league. At best.
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Nah, it's more like Celtics owners investing in MLS
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Club World Cup style tourney?
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Johnny Bball wrote:Bucks4005 wrote:One quick, immediate solution could,be hold a “worldwide” tourney, yearly, but with G Leagues top teams entering the tourney with European teams. To do that, you’d have to have teams adtually focus on improving G League, development in the G League, but maybe you add an extra round to the draft and make it a bit more like MLB style, you draft a guy in the 3rd and he plays on a ‘minor league” G League roster.
For example, the Thunder basically control a ton of upcoming drafts, but only have 15 roster spots, so they’re just going to just as likely end up trading a bunch of those picks instead of making them. With this, there’s more of a foucus on player development and they can actually draft and develop their minor system without having to gut their picks due to roster constraints. And If that G League team ends up good, it could potentially end up competing with some of these Euro League teams. Like, say Walter Clayton air was drafted by the Thunder late first, and since they have so many actual NBA guards on the roster, he ends up on the G League team. If that teams good and sent to the tourney with the EuroLeague teams, I’d have interest in watching that game.
Someone gets it. This is a European G league. At best.
Yea, and if there’s financial incentive, like a winners pot, you have some incentive to actually focus on developing a G League or minor league roster.
Could even add competitive balance picks to sweeten the deal for NBA franchise. You’re one of the four G League teams to make the tourney? You get a 31st-34 pick. Could be nothing, but better than nothing for sure. You win the tourney, you get another basically late first pick. Could also add incentives for the NBA. Your develop the G League MVP? There’s the 61st Pick. NBA ROY? Another late first. Adds picks and incentives teams to draft and develop type deal, instead of treating late 2nds as throwaway picks, you actually invest in these guys because they can benefit you the better they are. Feel MLB has the ideal American version of a minor system and there are actual benefits to developing in the minors, NFL and NBA need some work in that front, though an NFl roster is probably already pushing the limits with its size, practice squads, etc, NBA rosters have the right size to make G League effective and more profitable if there was an incentive to invest in it, such as this.
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FIBA already harvesting some fruits from this, few notable teams leaving Euroleague environment for Champions league.
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Add Euro teams to the in season tourney. Yes they would mostly get crushed but that's not the point. Id rather tune in to see my team play Besiktas than the Wizards any day
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durden_tyler wrote:zimpy27 wrote:Opening a conference in Europe should be possible with the way the NBA schedule has home and away games in runs.
Or you go the champions league approach
That's the end game i think, difficult but should be doable, but not happening immediately. Maybe in 15-20 years since quality of those teams is still lower than the NBA teams.
Create a tournament for these Euro teams with regular guest NBA teams during the NBA preseason timeline and that should be considered an early success already. Great for the NBA teams, who will be sending their preeason/training camp squads and test against the *best* in Europe and great exposure for the Euro teams.
I prefer the idea of at least NBA franchises in Europe being part of the NBA.
Supersonic airplanes are back being made by a couple companies. They will be available for the NBA to use. They can go Houston to London in 4.5 hours. Less time than current planes go from LA to New York.
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LuDux1 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280837/NBA-EuroLeague-Relations-Thaw-As-European-Basketball-League-Plans-ProgressThe NBA and EuroLeague relationship has improved after tensions last year when EuroLeague rejected the NBA's partnership proposal. Former San Antonio Spurs star Tony Parker, who owns French club ASVEL, has served as an intermediary between the organizations.
"It was really the first time that all three parties, including the clubs, had sat down together to talk about what the future of European basketball should look like," Tatum said. "So I'd say there was a really productive, good conversations there."
EuroLeague CEO Paulius Motiejunas expressed optimism about potential collaboration between the leagues.
"It is becoming more obvious that we have to work together," Motiejunas told The Athletic. "I believe it is the first meeting of many where we should find ways to grow basketball."
They obviously have to partner with EuroLeague if they want to do this.
A league of newly created franchises wouldn't stand a snow ball's chance in hell of directly competing with established EuroLeague fan bases in Europe.
It would be just as successful as the old FIBA SuproLeague was, or the old FIBA Europe League was after it.
The NBA is just stating the obvious there. That they would have to work with the EuroLeague and not try to do some European version of the old American ABA.
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Johnny Bball wrote:Bucks4005 wrote:One quick, immediate solution could,be hold a “worldwide” tourney, yearly, but with G Leagues top teams entering the tourney with European teams. To do that, you’d have to have teams adtually focus on improving G League, development in the G League, but maybe you add an extra round to the draft and make it a bit more like MLB style, you draft a guy in the 3rd and he plays on a ‘minor league” G League roster.
For example, the Thunder basically control a ton of upcoming drafts, but only have 15 roster spots, so they’re just going to just as likely end up trading a bunch of those picks instead of making them. With this, there’s more of a foucus on player development and they can actually draft and develop their minor system without having to gut their picks due to roster constraints. And If that G League team ends up good, it could potentially end up competing with some of these Euro League teams. Like, say Walter Clayton air was drafted by the Thunder late first, and since they have so many actual NBA guards on the roster, he ends up on the G League team. If that teams good and sent to the tourney with the EuroLeague teams, I’d have interest in watching that game.
Someone gets it. This is a European G league. At best.
You sure about that?
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Mirotic12 wrote:LuDux1 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280837/NBA-EuroLeague-Relations-Thaw-As-European-Basketball-League-Plans-ProgressThe NBA and EuroLeague relationship has improved after tensions last year when EuroLeague rejected the NBA's partnership proposal. Former San Antonio Spurs star Tony Parker, who owns French club ASVEL, has served as an intermediary between the organizations.
"It was really the first time that all three parties, including the clubs, had sat down together to talk about what the future of European basketball should look like," Tatum said. "So I'd say there was a really productive, good conversations there."
EuroLeague CEO Paulius Motiejunas expressed optimism about potential collaboration between the leagues.
"It is becoming more obvious that we have to work together," Motiejunas told The Athletic. "I believe it is the first meeting of many where we should find ways to grow basketball."
They obviously have to partner with EuroLeague if they want to do this.
A league of newly created franchises wouldn't stand a snow ball's chance in hell of directly competing with established EuroLeague fan bases in Europe.
It would be just as successful as the old FIBA SuproLeague was, or the old FIBA Europe League was after it.
The NBA is just stating the obvious there. That they would have to work with the EuroLeague and not try to do some European version of the old American ABA.
Alba Berlin already left the Euroleague. There’s rumors that Real Madrid, FC Barcelona, ASVEL, and Fenerbahce are all ready to jump ship. PSG wants a team. They’ll put a team in London, one in Manchester associated with Man City.
Seems like they are legit trying to poach teams from the Euroleague to me, but who knows?
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wegotthabeet wrote:Johnny Bball wrote:Bucks4005 wrote:One quick, immediate solution could,be hold a “worldwide” tourney, yearly, but with G Leagues top teams entering the tourney with European teams. To do that, you’d have to have teams adtually focus on improving G League, development in the G League, but maybe you add an extra round to the draft and make it a bit more like MLB style, you draft a guy in the 3rd and he plays on a ‘minor league” G League roster.
For example, the Thunder basically control a ton of upcoming drafts, but only have 15 roster spots, so they’re just going to just as likely end up trading a bunch of those picks instead of making them. With this, there’s more of a foucus on player development and they can actually draft and develop their minor system without having to gut their picks due to roster constraints. And If that G League team ends up good, it could potentially end up competing with some of these Euro League teams. Like, say Walter Clayton air was drafted by the Thunder late first, and since they have so many actual NBA guards on the roster, he ends up on the G League team. If that teams good and sent to the tourney with the EuroLeague teams, I’d have interest in watching that game.
Someone gets it. This is a European G league. At best.
You sure about that?
Nope, just a guess it will start as developmental in a way
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Johnny Bball wrote:wegotthabeet wrote:Johnny Bball wrote:
Someone gets it. This is a European G league. At best.
You sure about that?
Nope, just a guess it will start as developmental in a way
Maybe, but I don’t think that’s their objective. I think step one is poach to some teams from the Euroleague. Step 2 cannibalize or merge the remaining big name teams.
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Bucks4005 wrote:One quick, immediate solution could,be hold a “worldwide” tourney, yearly, but with G Leagues top teams entering the tourney with European teams. To do that, you’d have to have teams adtually focus on improving G League, development in the G League, but maybe you add an extra round to the draft and make it a bit more like MLB style, you draft a guy in the 3rd and he plays on a ‘minor league” G League roster.
For example, the Thunder basically control a ton of upcoming drafts, but only have 15 roster spots, so they’re just going to just as likely end up trading a bunch of those picks instead of making them. With this, there’s more of a foucus on player development and they can actually draft and develop their minor system without having to gut their picks due to roster constraints. And If that G League team ends up good, it could potentially end up competing with some of these Euro League teams. Like, say Walter Clayton air was drafted by the Thunder late first, and since they have so many actual NBA guards on the roster, he ends up on the G League team. If that teams good and sent to the tourney with the EuroLeague teams, I’d have interest in watching that game.
It already exists. It's called the FIBA Intercontinental Cup, which has been existed for decades. The G League teams have been competing at it for several years. They are a joke though, and regularly get blown out by teams from Latin America and second / third tier level European leagues.
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UcanUwill wrote:FIBA already harvesting some fruits from this, few notable teams leaving Euroleague environment for Champions league.
Not really. None of them is willing to spend or invest any amount of money at all.
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wegotthabeet wrote:Alba Berlin already left the Euroleague. There’s rumors that Real Madrid, FC Barcelona, ASVEL, and Fenerbahce are all ready to jump ship. PSG wants a team. They’ll put a team in London, one in Manchester associated with Man City.
Seems like they are legit trying to poach teams from the Euroleague to me, but who knows?
It would end up like FIBA SuproLeague did. Such a league can't compete with a league of the big clubs in Serbia, Greece, Lithuania, and Turkey (besides Fener).
And it's questionable if those rumors are at all true, since it's also been reported that all of those clubs, except Real Madrid, already re-signed with EuroLeague for ten years.
Unless you want to include Alba going to FIBA Basketball Champions League as a team the NBA would want. But honestly, the NBA wouldn't want them unless they were sold. Because their current ownership is refusing to invest in the team, refuses to sign any decent players, and to basically spend any money at all.
The truth is they didn't leave EuroLeague by choice. The EuroLeague basically kicked them out, because they seem to have zero intention of being a serious organization and had become a complete joke. I mean they finished in like 7th place in the German League.
I read something about PSG wouldn't spend money to build a new arena. The biggest arena that could be used in Paris is not an option, as it is not available for such use. The same with the second biggest arena in Paris.
That leaves the third biggest arena in Paris as their only option, but it is supposedly under the exclusive rights of Paris Basket, that is currently in EuroLeague. So the article seemed to be suggesting that PSG won't have a team, unless Paris Basket folds, and the available use of their arena opens up.
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They should do a Super Cup style tournament where before the start of each season, the NBA and Euroleague champions play each other.
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maxpower8888 wrote:They should do a Super Cup style tournament where before the start of each season, the NBA and Euroleague champions play each other.
They should indeed.
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wegotthabeet wrote:Mirotic12 wrote:LuDux1 wrote:https://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/280837/NBA-EuroLeague-Relations-Thaw-As-European-Basketball-League-Plans-Progress
They obviously have to partner with EuroLeague if they want to do this.
A league of newly created franchises wouldn't stand a snow ball's chance in hell of directly competing with established EuroLeague fan bases in Europe.
It would be just as successful as the old FIBA SuproLeague was, or the old FIBA Europe League was after it.
The NBA is just stating the obvious there. That they would have to work with the EuroLeague and not try to do some European version of the old American ABA.
Alba Berlin already left the Euroleague. There’s rumors that Real Madrid, FC Barcelona, ASVEL, and Fenerbahce are all ready to jump ship. PSG wants a team. They’ll put a team in London, one in Manchester associated with Man City.
Seems like they are legit trying to poach teams from the Euroleague to me, but who knows?
To be fair ALBA isn't and probably never will be a competitive team in the Euroleague. Bayern Munich at least has in theory the financial options to put together a team that competes for a title, but they will always be a low tier team. On the other side they can definitely compete in the FIBA competitions, as long as some of the other big reams don't jump ship either.