Jaylen Brown: What is his trade value and which teams should go for him?

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Re: Jaylen Brown: What is his trade value and which teams should go for him? 

Post#41 » by fallguy » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:34 am

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levon wrote:What's going on with his knee? I'd be getting a little nervous about that if I was Stevens, and that may be why they're listening to offers.


Minor surgery in July. Stevens said he’ll be ready by the start of camp.

Obviously I don't know specifics but debridement in the knee is pretty risky.


The surgery is minor. He's fine.
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Post#42 » by Primedeion » Thu Jun 26, 2025 5:52 am

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Bane’s better, younger, and much cheaper, I think it would be hard to find a team they can even match salaries and get better unless someone like Bradley Beal’s on the other side of the deal. If Celtics can get expirings and a first, they should pounce.


You’ve been in every thread pertaining to Brown that I can remember, trashing the guy. Were talking a 28 vs 27 year old and if Bane were the better player he’d have at least one of the accolades Brown has… Bane can’t create his own opportunities like Brown can, he’ll never be a top scoring option on a contender, more so a very good supporting piece.


Brown has accolades because he gets to take a lot of shots for the best organization in the league. It’s all role. Bane just turned 27 today and has shown no signs of peaking. Brown is 28.5 and has been steadily declining for at least 3 years now. Guys who can’t shoot tend to age poorly.

As for trashing him, it’s just that he got so ridiculously overrated after the FMVP. I had no problem with him before that. It’s like when Kobe won a couple titles with Pau and everyone wanted to put him with LeBron. People genuinely think JB is like top 15 in the league just because he had a hot streak where he was the best among equals for a couple weeks. He’s a borderline top 50 guy making $60MM/year. I’d put Devin Booker in the same bucket.


09+10 Kobe was about 500 times better and his Finals performances were vastly superior. Nice try tho.
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Re: Jaylen Brown: What is his trade value and which teams should go for him? 

Post#43 » by iggymcfrack » Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:20 am

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You’ve been in every thread pertaining to Brown that I can remember, trashing the guy. Were talking a 28 vs 27 year old and if Bane were the better player he’d have at least one of the accolades Brown has… Bane can’t create his own opportunities like Brown can, he’ll never be a top scoring option on a contender, more so a very good supporting piece.


Brown has accolades because he gets to take a lot of shots for the best organization in the league. It’s all role. Bane just turned 27 today and has shown no signs of peaking. Brown is 28.5 and has been steadily declining for at least 3 years now. Guys who can’t shoot tend to age poorly.

As for trashing him, it’s just that he got so ridiculously overrated after the FMVP. I had no problem with him before that. It’s like when Kobe won a couple titles with Pau and everyone wanted to put him with LeBron. People genuinely think JB is like top 15 in the league just because he had a hot streak where he was the best among equals for a couple weeks. He’s a borderline top 50 guy making $60MM/year. I’d put Devin Booker in the same bucket.


09+10 Kobe was about 500 times better and his Finals performances were vastly superior. Nice try tho.


Well obviously, he was way better than Jaylen. I'm just saying that in the way people said Kobe > LeBron, it's equally ridiculous now people saying Jaylen > Gobert.
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Post#44 » by Wolveswin » Thu Jun 26, 2025 7:32 am

I think with Cade in Detroit would be a good landing spot. Use Browns playoff and championship pedigree to lead a young and upcoming team.

Ivey/RH2/Tobias (expiring)/picks as needed

Celtics can tank in a gap year and hope their acquired youth and 2026 top 5 pick can be ready when Tatum is fully ready.
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Post#45 » by FarBeyondDriven » Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:49 am

lots of understandably delusional Celtics fans in here. I think Brad Stevens is a brilliant G.M. though how teams have bent over backwards to help the Celtics these past few years is suspect so maybe he shouldn't get all the credit. That said, he's clearly smart and can read the tea leaves.

1) Brown is severely overpaid on a bad contract
2) Brown is approaching his 30s with a balky knee and a lot of mileage due to playing deep into the playoffs since he was a rookie
3) The Tatum injury has fortuitously given the Celtics political cover to embrace the tank. Similar to how the Colts tanked when Peyton went down which got them Luck and the Spurs tanked when Robinson went down which landed them Duncan.
4) The 2026 draft class looks like an all-timer. You won't need a top 3 pick to get a potential difference maker but a top 3 pick gets you a potential HoF player
5) New ownership understandably does not want to be paying luxury tax for a team lucky to make the playoffs

It all adds up to a Jaylen Brown trade being way more feasible than Celtics fans want to admit. If he was to actually be available I think there are a few landing spots for sure.

Bucks

with making Giannis happy paramount and Lillard out for the season and just having one year left on his contract after that, this could be a way to put Tatum (and Lillard) in position to compete in 2027 while also getting out from under Brown's onerous contract. The Bucks get a legit running mate for Giannis that plays both ways instead of nothing from Lillard. The Bucks with a couple of shrewd FA signings in a down season for the East might just have enough to make another Finals run. Not a serious threat but maybe just enough to keep Giannis happy until the Bucks can get their books in order and some draft picks to surround Giannis and Brown the next several years.

Wizards

the Wizards have several expiring contracts (Smart, Middleton, Olynyk, McCollum). The Wizards need to tank to preserve their top 8 protected pick. But with Brown having surgery he can take his time coming back and then shut it down early. Besides the benefit of getting out from under Brown's contract they also get the benefit of those expiring contracts (trades or cap spac). I'm sure with all the decent young players the Wizards have drafted the past few seasons plus future (excluding the 2026 top 8 protected) draft picks they can sufficiently sweeten the deal. 2027 Wizards with Brown, a top 8 2026 franchise type draft talent and maturity from the remaining young players (Sarr, George, Bub, Bilal, AJ, Johnson, etc) they'd be rocking and rolling for real.

Pistons

Cade needs a legit running-mate. Harris is on an expiring. Ivey and Duren are on expirings and Holland has team options but RFAs at the end of the day. The Pistons have Holland and all of their future draft picks to offer. Importantly the Pistons can absorb his contract and Detroit is actually somewhere I think Jaylen would embrace going to given the city's history and his political ambitions. The issue here is how the Pistons would fill out of the rest of their team and whether they could do so well enough to make them contenders. I think it'd have to include a 3rd team but it's possible. This certainly wouldn't harm the Celtics tank, would get them a young talent like Holland and Ivey, Harris to trade for a pick/player plus future 1sts and 2nds to use to surround Tatum for when he returns and of course massive cap savings.

Mavericks

an expiring PJ Washington, young cheap guys like Lively, Christie, plus they've got future picks including Lakers unprotected I believe to offer. Mavs also locked up Gafford and Kyrie for the next few seasons and have Flagg on a relatively cheap deal along with AD and Klay so they're pretty much ready to go for it. Getting Brown would get him out of the conference and the Mavs would championship contenders for the next few years. Owners would be willing to pay the resulting taxes if it mended some broken hearts due to the Luka fiasco and brought a championship. Brown would welcome no state taxes I'm sure

Kyrie
Klay
Brown
Flagg
AD

Nets

assuming the Nets re-sign Cam Thomas who is a pure scorer, adding Brown's two-way skillset which would fit well alongside the other two-way players Traore and Johnson plus Claxton would really make for a potential playoff team. It'd also allow Brown to get a taste of being a team's #1. Nets can also absorb his money. Traore running PnR with Claxton will feed families and having Brown, Thomas and Johnson to kick out to would make them scary. Maybe this is why the Nets took the raw Egor Demin so high because they knew he was heading to the Celtics? Wolf might have been drafted with the Celtics in mind too thus explaining why the Celtics chose Hugo Gonzalez with their pick instead of taking a big. Demin, Wolf, Clowney and future picks could get it done.

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Johnson
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Post#46 » by robbie84 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 12:09 pm

iggymcfrack wrote:
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iggymcfrack wrote:
Bane’s better, younger, and much cheaper, I think it would be hard to find a team they can even match salaries and get better unless someone like Bradley Beal’s on the other side of the deal. If Celtics can get expirings and a first, they should pounce.


You’ve been in every thread pertaining to Brown that I can remember, trashing the guy. Were talking a 28 vs 27 year old and if Bane were the better player he’d have at least one of the accolades Brown has… Bane can’t create his own opportunities like Brown can, he’ll never be a top scoring option on a contender, more so a very good supporting piece.


Brown has accolades because he gets to take a lot of shots for the best organization in the league. It’s all role. Bane just turned 27 today and has shown no signs of peaking. Brown is 28.5 and has been steadily declining for at least 3 years now. Guys who can’t shoot tend to age poorly.

As for trashing him, it’s just that he got so ridiculously overrated after the FMVP. I had no problem with him before that. It’s like when Kobe won a couple titles with Pau and everyone wanted to put him with LeBron. People genuinely think JB is like top 15 in the league just because he had a hot streak where he was the best among equals for a couple weeks. He’s a borderline top 50 guy making $60MM/year. I’d put Devin Booker in the same bucket.


Cmon man at least be somewhat reasonable in your hatred for the guy. You are absolutely delusional. Borderline top 50 guy? Desmon Bane better than Brown? Get out of here with that trash. You're just a hater, plain and simple.
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Post#47 » by Ticket » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:17 pm

People that are saying Boston should tank are delusional.

The chance of Boston winning less games than the Wizards, Hornets, Jazz, Pels, Nets of this world are slim to none.

What do they win by selling off Brown and White?

A 7th pick next year and a bunch of scrubs to welcome Tatum back?

A core of Brown-White-Simons-Pritchard is enough to make the play-in and who knows when Tatum is back? With Simons’ expiring contract and a raised cap they have plenty of flexibility to be right back in the thick of it in 2027.
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Post#48 » by iggymcfrack » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:18 pm

robbie84 wrote:
iggymcfrack wrote:
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You’ve been in every thread pertaining to Brown that I can remember, trashing the guy. Were talking a 28 vs 27 year old and if Bane were the better player he’d have at least one of the accolades Brown has… Bane can’t create his own opportunities like Brown can, he’ll never be a top scoring option on a contender, more so a very good supporting piece.


Brown has accolades because he gets to take a lot of shots for the best organization in the league. It’s all role. Bane just turned 27 today and has shown no signs of peaking. Brown is 28.5 and has been steadily declining for at least 3 years now. Guys who can’t shoot tend to age poorly.

As for trashing him, it’s just that he got so ridiculously overrated after the FMVP. I had no problem with him before that. It’s like when Kobe won a couple titles with Pau and everyone wanted to put him with LeBron. People genuinely think JB is like top 15 in the league just because he had a hot streak where he was the best among equals for a couple weeks. He’s a borderline top 50 guy making $60MM/year. I’d put Devin Booker in the same bucket.


Cmon man at least be somewhat reasonable in your hatred for the guy. You are absolutely delusional. Borderline top 50 guy? Desmon Bane better than Brown? Get out of here with that trash. You're just a hater, plain and simple.


Well it’s just every measurable stat that says it. Box score stats, impact stats, none of them have Jaylen as one of the top 6 players on the Celtics in recent years.
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Post#49 » by OrangeBlueSkies » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:25 pm

AmusingFiddle wrote:Boston should/would get more than what the Jazz received for D. Mitchell.


Disagree.
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Post#50 » by OrangeBlueSkies » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:28 pm

Ticket wrote:People that are saying Boston should tank are delusional.

The chance of Boston winning less games than the Wizards, Hornets, Jazz, Pels, Nets of this world are slim to none.

What do they win by selling off Brown and White?

A 7th pick next year and a bunch of scrubs to welcome Tatum back?

A core of Brown-White-Simons-Pritchard is enough to make the play-in and who knows when Tatum is back? With Simons’ expiring contract and a raised cap they have plenty of flexibility to be right back in the thick of it in 2027.



Yes, I posted somewhere on the board yesterday that Brown/White/Porzingis could and would still help Boston win many games next season. Hell, Pritchard would assist in that as well. But now that they let Porzingis go for peanuts, I do not really see how Pritchard/Brown/White and really nobody else that can burden the offensive load, how can they really compete? I do not think the market for J. Brown is robust, but I would certainly be exploring that avenue if I was Brad Stevens.
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Post#51 » by bfchs123 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:34 pm

iggymcfrack wrote:
robbie84 wrote:
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Brown has accolades because he gets to take a lot of shots for the best organization in the league. It’s all role. Bane just turned 27 today and has shown no signs of peaking. Brown is 28.5 and has been steadily declining for at least 3 years now. Guys who can’t shoot tend to age poorly.

As for trashing him, it’s just that he got so ridiculously overrated after the FMVP. I had no problem with him before that. It’s like when Kobe won a couple titles with Pau and everyone wanted to put him with LeBron. People genuinely think JB is like top 15 in the league just because he had a hot streak where he was the best among equals for a couple weeks. He’s a borderline top 50 guy making $60MM/year. I’d put Devin Booker in the same bucket.


Cmon man at least be somewhat reasonable in your hatred for the guy. You are absolutely delusional. Borderline top 50 guy? Desmon Bane better than Brown? Get out of here with that trash. You're just a hater, plain and simple.


Well it’s just every measurable stat that says it. Box score stats, impact stats, none of them have Jaylen as one of the top 6 players on the Celtics in recent years.


Lmaoo, not even in the top 6 on the Celtics?
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Post#52 » by iggymcfrack » Thu Jun 26, 2025 1:50 pm

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Cmon man at least be somewhat reasonable in your hatred for the guy. You are absolutely delusional. Borderline top 50 guy? Desmon Bane better than Brown? Get out of here with that trash. You're just a hater, plain and simple.


Well it’s just every measurable stat that says it. Box score stats, impact stats, none of them have Jaylen as one of the top 6 players on the Celtics in recent years.


Lmaoo, not even in the top 6 on the Celtics?


No, he’s the worst shooter on the team, consistently has some of the worst comprehensive box score numbers on the team, has a career on/off of -0.9 in the regular season and -3.9 in the playoffs, and year after year, the Celtics have a better record in games he misses injured then in games he plays. The only reason I can see that he gets so much credit is that he takes a lot of shots. I honestly think they’d be a better team giving his minutes to Hauser and Kornet. If he gets traded I’m hammering the Celtics over.
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Post#53 » by Joao Saraiva » Thu Jun 26, 2025 2:04 pm

Celtics will keep him. Then run him and Tatum next season. There is no need to trade anymore, they are well within the salary cup rules.

His market value always depends on who makes an offer, and if any team thinks with him they are legit contenders instead of pretenders.
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Post#54 » by robbie84 » Thu Jun 26, 2025 10:46 pm

iggymcfrack wrote:
bfchs123 wrote:
iggymcfrack wrote:
Well it’s just every measurable stat that says it. Box score stats, impact stats, none of them have Jaylen as one of the top 6 players on the Celtics in recent years.


Lmaoo, not even in the top 6 on the Celtics?


No, he’s the worst shooter on the team, consistently has some of the worst comprehensive box score numbers on the team, has a career on/off of -0.9 in the regular season and -3.9 in the playoffs, and year after year, the Celtics have a better record in games he misses injured then in games he plays. The only reason I can see that he gets so much credit is that he takes a lot of shots. I honestly think they’d be a better team giving his minutes to Hauser and Kornet. If he gets traded I’m hammering the Celtics over.



Thankfully we have Mike Zarren running the advanced analytics and making these decisions. Not Iggy 'I hate JB' Mcfrack.
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Post#55 » by iggymcfrack » Thu Jun 26, 2025 11:32 pm

robbie84 wrote:
iggymcfrack wrote:
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Lmaoo, not even in the top 6 on the Celtics?


No, he’s the worst shooter on the team, consistently has some of the worst comprehensive box score numbers on the team, has a career on/off of -0.9 in the regular season and -3.9 in the playoffs, and year after year, the Celtics have a better record in games he misses injured then in games he plays. The only reason I can see that he gets so much credit is that he takes a lot of shots. I honestly think they’d be a better team giving his minutes to Hauser and Kornet. If he gets traded I’m hammering the Celtics over.



Thankfully we have Mike Zarren running the advanced analytics and making these decisions. Not Iggy 'I hate JB' Mcfrack.


I don’t hate him. I just think it’s crazy that someone who falls so short in every measurable regularly gets talked about as a top 15 guy and I think the Celtics could do a lot better for $60MM/year.
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Post#56 » by Wolveswin » Fri Jun 27, 2025 12:24 am

Ticket wrote:People that are saying Boston should tank are delusional.

The chance of Boston winning less games than the Wizards, Hornets, Jazz, Pels, Nets of this world are slim to none.

What do they win by selling off Brown and White?

A 7th pick next year and a bunch of scrubs to welcome Tatum back?

A core of Brown-White-Simons-Pritchard is enough to make the play-in and who knows when Tatum is back? With Simons’ expiring contract and a raised cap they have plenty of flexibility to be right back in the thick of it in 2027.

Not if Brown for Hali trade.

Celtics in 26/27 which Tatum/Hali/top 5 pick is better than Tatum/Brown.

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