SHAMS: Kyrie Irving declines Player Option, intends to sign a 3 year $119 M contract

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Re: SHAMS: Kyrie Irving declines Player Option, intends to sign a 3 year $119 M contract 

Post#101 » by Mr B » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:01 am

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Who? Most teams are capped out. Some teams like Boston are cutting salary. Who would do a sign and trade for him?

Anyone who trades for him now will probably have wait a year for him to rehab (or if he comes back early he'll need to shake off any rust).

The teams thay have cap space are rebuilding or won't have any interest (such as the Nets).

So you’re saying that Kyrie has no value?


Yep. At most very limited value.

Very interesting. You do realize literally everyone thinks opposite of you right?
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Re: SHAMS: Kyrie Irving declines Player Option, intends to sign a 3 year $119 M contract 

Post#102 » by Dan Z » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:04 am

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Mr B wrote:So you’re saying that Kyrie has no value?


Yep. At most very limited value.

Very interesting. You do realize literally everyone thinks opposite of you right?


I already answered this, but here it is again.

He's 33 years old, coming off a major injury and requires a ton of money.

Let's look at the NBA.

Teams that are rebuilding (they'd have no interest in him at his age/cost/injury):
Chicago
Charlotte
Utah
Raptors
Wizards
Blazers
New Orleans (they just drafted a PG and eventually Murray will be back).

Teams that are good, but already have a point guard:
Cavs
Knicks
Pacers
Pistons
Hawks
Spurs
76ers (Good depends on their health, but they have guards and no assets for him).
Thunder
Warriors
Clippers
Grizzlies (Good...I'm not sure, but they have Ja. No need for Kyrie)
Rockets

Teams that he was previously on that would have no interest in a reunion:
Boston
Brooklyn

Teams that have limited assets to trade (and/or are over the cap):
Denver
Suns
Bucks
Magic (they just traded for Beal)
Heat
Lakers
Minnesota
Kings

That's it. That's all 30 teams (not including the Mavs).

What kind of value do you think he has if he hit the open market?
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Re: SHAMS: Kyrie Irving declines Player Option, intends to sign a 3 year $119 M contract 

Post#103 » by ShootersShoot » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:19 am

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A pay cut? He's currently injured and most likely will be out all season.

Yes he'll get 39.6 million next year instead of 43 (which was his player option), but he's also getting 39.6 for two more seasons after that.

Kyrie won’t be out all season. His rehab is going great and he might actually be back early.


When Kyrie comes back he'll have to shake off the rust, plus will he be the same player he was before the injury? Remember Klay...he wasn't the same.


Do you remember correctly? How was klays situation the same as kyries? Klay was acl and achilles in back to back years and he missed 2.5 seasons
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Re: SHAMS: Kyrie Irving declines Player Option, intends to sign a 3 year $119 M contract 

Post#104 » by Dan Z » Fri Jun 27, 2025 2:28 am

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Mr B wrote:Kyrie won’t be out all season. His rehab is going great and he might actually be back early.


When Kyrie comes back he'll have to shake off the rust, plus will he be the same player he was before the injury? Remember Klay...he wasn't the same.


Do you remember correctly? How was klays situation the same as kyries? Klay was acl and achilles in back to back years and he missed 2.5 seasons


My point is that he wasn't the same player. It's possible that Kyrie isn't either, even though he didn't sustain the same injuries.

What kind of value do you think he has right now? I just listed all 30 teams. I don't think he has much value if he was on the open market, but I understand why the Mavs gave him this extension.
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Re: SHAMS: Kyrie Irving declines Player Option, intends to sign a 3 year $119 M contract 

Post#105 » by ShootersShoot » Fri Jun 27, 2025 7:40 pm

Dan Z wrote:
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When Kyrie comes back he'll have to shake off the rust, plus will he be the same player he was before the injury? Remember Klay...he wasn't the same.


Do you remember correctly? How was klays situation the same as kyries? Klay was acl and achilles in back to back years and he missed 2.5 seasons


My point is that he wasn't the same player. It's possible that Kyrie isn't either, even though he didn't sustain the same injuries.

What kind of value do you think he has right now? I just listed all 30 teams. I don't think he has much value if he was on the open market, but I understand why the Mavs gave him this extension.


Yea I agree. A 34 yr old coming off acl on paper does not have a lot of value unless they are a super star and even then its still a risk.

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