[Shams] D'Angelo Russell has agreed on a two-year, $13 million deal with the Dallas Mavericks

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Re: [Shams] D'Angelo Russell has agreed on a two-year, $13 million deal with the Dallas Mavericks 

Post#41 » by dirkules_41 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 11:14 am

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meekrab wrote:Most franchises seem to have made the realization that dudes like DLo make your franchise worse, somewhat surprised Dallas went this high.


It's Niko Harrison. He has no idea what he's doing.


What other bad moves has Harrison made besides the one? He signed Grant Williams, but that did not pan out. I can't think of any other blunders at the top of my mind.

Agreed, as much as I loathe him for the Luka trade and most people will never forgive him for doing that... he's been largely very solid otherwise.
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Re: [Shams] D'Angelo Russell has agreed on a two-year, $13 million deal with the Dallas Mavericks 

Post#42 » by phanman » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:24 pm

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meekrab wrote:Most franchises seem to have made the realization that dudes like DLo make your franchise worse, somewhat surprised Dallas went this high.

Went this high?! At the tax payers MLE of 6.5m, he's a bargain to step in as the starting PG for Kyrie. I don't think people realize that he is only one year removed from averaging 18pts, 6.3ast, 3.1reb on 58.8%TS (46/42/83). The playoffs are a different story, but that's not why he was signed :roll:

The fact that he already has synergy with both JKidd & AD is a bonus. He's always worked well with rim running athletic bigs like Gafford and Lively and Dallas has the supporting pieces to minimize the defensive side of the floor. Plus a motivated D'Lo in a contract year is promising.
His game is never a bargain at any price.

He is a bargain only if he is moved for more assets. As in, acquiring two second round picks for him, because he's not going to acquire a team a first round pick.

What kind of logic is that :lol:

The Mavs need a floor general to keep things afloat while Kyrie rehabs from his torn ACL and D'Lo fits the bill as a guy whose started 536/629 career games. He definitely had down year last season but he's been productive in the regular season as a 18pts, 6asts guy with near 40%3pt shooting. He can play both on and off the ball.
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Re: [Shams] D'Angelo Russell has agreed on a two-year, $13 million deal with the Dallas Mavericks 

Post#43 » by John Murdoch » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:29 pm

Im guessing AD asked for em
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Re: [Shams] D'Angelo Russell has agreed on a two-year, $13 million deal with the Dallas Mavericks 

Post#44 » by UcanUwill » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:36 pm

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meekrab wrote:Most franchises seem to have made the realization that dudes like DLo make your franchise worse, somewhat surprised Dallas went this high.


It's Niko Harrison. He has no idea what he's doing.


What other bad moves has Harrison made besides the one? He signed Grant Williams, but that did not pan out. I can't think of any other blunders at the top of my mind.


That one move destroys any basketball credibility, doesn't it? Guy was very active during one trade deadline, team reached the finals, guy bought into thinking he is god and it was him that made NBA finals, not Luka Doncic.
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Post#45 » by life_saver » Tue Jul 1, 2025 2:48 pm

Thing is Nico made lot of solid moves prior to that Luka trade...which is why I was so puzzled about the Luka trade.
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Post#46 » by Red8911 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 3:46 pm

The NBA better fine and take away a draft pick from Dallas since this was rumored way ahead of time.
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Post#47 » by makubesu » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:06 pm

Maybe should’ve waited for Dame…
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Post#48 » by Blame Rasho » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:07 pm

makubesu wrote:Maybe should’ve waited for Dame…


He would not be healthy.
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Post#49 » by cupcakesnake » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:28 pm

The things that Mavs fans are going to soon get really sick of is: D'Lo doesn't throw many lob passes. Despite spending time playing with centers like Jarrett Allen and Rudy Gobert, D'Lo just always seems to want to bounce it.

Unless he's somehow finally unlocked with skill, he's not going to be a fun pick & roll partner for AD (we already seen how unpotent that one was, Davis shot 43% on D'Lo passes), but even more so Gafford and Lively. The Mavs are set up to be a lob machine with all those bigs + Flagg, but they don't have a lob passer on the roster. Kyrie also is not amazing at them.

The Mavs are desperate for a ball handler, so this still feels like a win, but this is unfortunately a garbage fit outside of simply filling a hole.
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Post#50 » by cupcakesnake » Tue Jul 1, 2025 4:28 pm

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makubesu wrote:Maybe should’ve waited for Dame…


He would not be healthy.


How many out for the season old all-star PGs do the Mavs NEED?
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Post#51 » by Blame Rasho » Tue Jul 1, 2025 6:59 pm

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makubesu wrote:Maybe should’ve waited for Dame…


He would not be healthy.


How many out for the season old all-star PGs do the Mavs NEED?


YES…
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Post#52 » by GQ03 » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:34 pm

cupcakesnake wrote:The things that Mavs fans are going to soon get really sick of is: D'Lo doesn't throw many lob passes. Despite spending time playing with centers like Jarrett Allen and Rudy Gobert, D'Lo just always seems to want to bounce it.

Unless he's somehow finally unlocked with skill, he's not going to be a fun pick & roll partner for AD (we already seen how unpotent that one was, Davis shot 43% on D'Lo passes), but even more so Gafford and Lively. The Mavs are set up to be a lob machine with all those bigs + Flagg, but they don't have a lob passer on the roster. Kyrie also is not amazing at them.

The Mavs are desperate for a ball handler, so this still feels like a win, but this is unfortunately a garbage fit outside of simply filling a hole.

D'Lo is a good fit for the mavs not just for the price but because he helps fill their ballhandling, playmaker, and shooting needs all in one guy. Many Laker fans have said the Lakers looked really good when D'Lo was actually playing PG and running the show while he struggled when moved off ball for LeBron. With Dallas, he gets to run the show for 3-4 months and then if they make the playoffs he gets to slide into a 6th/7th/8th/9th man role.

As for there being no good lob throwers on the team, Kyrie is solid at them and Flagg may actually be the best one on the team with that ability as he was really good at Duke throwing lobs to Maluach.
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Post#53 » by dockingsched » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:49 pm

DLos ability to get AD easy shots where he likes the ball is unparalleled. Chemistry is off the charts.
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Post#54 » by cupcakesnake » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:53 pm

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cupcakesnake wrote:The things that Mavs fans are going to soon get really sick of is: D'Lo doesn't throw many lob passes. Despite spending time playing with centers like Jarrett Allen and Rudy Gobert, D'Lo just always seems to want to bounce it.

Unless he's somehow finally unlocked with skill, he's not going to be a fun pick & roll partner for AD (we already seen how unpotent that one was, Davis shot 43% on D'Lo passes), but even more so Gafford and Lively. The Mavs are set up to be a lob machine with all those bigs + Flagg, but they don't have a lob passer on the roster. Kyrie also is not amazing at them.

The Mavs are desperate for a ball handler, so this still feels like a win, but this is unfortunately a garbage fit outside of simply filling a hole.

D'Lo is a good fit for the mavs not just for the price but because he helps fill their ballhandling, playmaker, and shooting needs all in one guy. Many Laker fans have said the Lakers looked really good when D'Lo was actually playing PG and running the show while he struggled when moved off ball for LeBron. With Dallas, he gets to run the show for 3-4 months and then if they make the playoffs he gets to slide into a 6th/7th/8th/9th man role.

As for there being no good lob throwers on the team, Kyrie is solid at them and Flagg may actually be the best one on the team with that ability as he was really good at Duke throwing lobs to Maluach.


The thing is, if you like him on ball, he has to be the one throwing those passes.

For a long time, I used to defend D'Lo, and I liked his utility as a skilled guard who can toggle on and off the ball. In reality, his decision making on the ball is way too erratic (guy's brain is set to random), so his main offensive value comes and goes with his shooting. He's been unlucky to go ice cold at all the wrong times. He's basically a guard who has to play above the foul line and sneak in for the occasional floater. That should be fine in Dallas, where the paint will be crowded anyways. In Minnesota, it was the exact opposite of what you say Lakers fans have been saying. Our offense was busted until we got him off ball (we put the ball in the hands of Kyle Anderson and things improved over night). Most Lakers fans I knew had a similar experience: defending him when he was shooting well, and calling for his head the rest of the time.

I agree it's great value. Functional ball handler who can shoot for very little money.
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Post#55 » by cupcakesnake » Tue Jul 1, 2025 7:55 pm

dockingsched wrote:DLos ability to get AD easy shots where he likes the ball is unparalleled. Chemistry is off the charts.


AD shot 43% off passes from D'Lo (per NBA.com) last year. The year before it was 46%. AD is a 54% shooter. The numbers dont match what your eye remembers.
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Post#56 » by dirkdiggler4177 » Wed Jul 2, 2025 8:25 am

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It's Niko Harrison. He has no idea what he's doing.


What other bad moves has Harrison made besides the one? He signed Grant Williams, but that did not pan out. I can't think of any other blunders at the top of my mind.


That one move destroys any basketball credibility, doesn't it? Guy was very active during one trade deadline, team reached the finals, guy bought into thinking he is god and it was him that made NBA finals, not Luka Doncic.


KP in for Spencer in 2022 at the deadline

Spencer for Kyrie Irving in 2023

P.J. Washington and Daniel Gafford in 2024


So no, he has done 3 big trades at the deadline, each season.

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