Jeff Teague says LeBron was on roids in Miami

[Iwasawitness]

his apologists are embarrassing themselves. Really sad stuff guys

The only thing I'd be embarrassed about is blindly believing something that takes two seconds to research and see that it's false.

[Karate Diop]

Dudes will say anything to try and be relevant...

Even the truth.

If it's the truth... Where's the evidence?

[bledredwine]

What I'm saying is that if LeBron did in fact gear, give me something substantial so I have a reason to believe it. Everyone who says it, their argument is basically "it's obvious he does it, you'd have to be stupid to think otherwise, everyone does it". There is never any actual evidence to the contrary. It's baseless rambling, and we're supposed to just believe it or we're idiots.

I’m not gonna say LeBron is or isn’t on gear-

I’ll just say this… if we have physically never seen something before after a 100 years of watching - we would be stupid to not be suspicious.

LeBron could the one in 8 billion - which is fine I’m not doubting it

How knowledgeable are you about PEDs and, weightlifting and wellness/nutrition?

Even the most ignorant people know that you can't lose 40 pounds and maintain good health so quickly, let alone
with Lebron's body fat percentage prior and after.

You'd have to be dumb not to be suspicious, actually.
I fully expect you to deflect this to something else since no lies were told.

[Iwasawitness]

I’m not gonna say LeBron is or isn’t on gear-

I’ll just say this… if we have physically never seen something before after a 100 years of watching - we would be stupid to not be suspicious.

LeBron could the one in 8 billion - which is fine I’m not doubting it

How knowledgeable are you about PEDs and, weightlifting and wellness/nutrition?

Even the most ignorant people know that you can't lose 40 pounds and maintain good health so quickly, let alone
with Lebron's body fat percentage prior and after.

You'd have to be dumb not to be suspicious, actually.
I fully expect you to deflect this to something else since no lies were told.

And if LeBron actually lost 40 pounds, we'd be suspicious. But he didn't and this has already been explained to you multiple times.

At this point you're just blatantly trolling.

[bledredwine]

How knowledgeable are you about PEDs and, weightlifting and wellness/nutrition?

Even the most ignorant people know that you can't lose 40 pounds and maintain good health so quickly, let alone
with Lebron's body fat percentage prior and after.

You'd have to be dumb not to be suspicious, actually.
I fully expect you to deflect this to something else since no lies were told.

And if LeBron actually lost 40 pounds, we'd be suspicious. But he didn't and this has already been explained to you multiple times.

At this point you're just blatantly trolling.

lol, I literally gave you the photo, links and reminded you of reality.

Your posts like this make me feel better, because it makes me realize that I'm not the delusional one.

[The4thHorseman]

Even the most ignorant people know that you can't lose 40 pounds and maintain good health so quickly, let alone
with Lebron's body fat percentage prior and after.

You'd have to be dumb not to be suspicious, actually.
I fully expect you to deflect this to something else since no lies were told.

And if LeBron actually lost 40 pounds, we'd be suspicious. But he didn't and this has already been explained to you multiple times.

At this point you're just blatantly trolling.

lol, I literally gave you the photo, links and reminded you of reality.

Your posts like this make me feel better, because it makes me realize that I'm not the delusional one.

If James did lose 40 pounds, then surely there would have been multiple articles written specifically stating he lost that amount of weight.

Got the links?

[Iwasawitness]

Even the most ignorant people know that you can't lose 40 pounds and maintain good health so quickly, let alone
with Lebron's body fat percentage prior and after.

You'd have to be dumb not to be suspicious, actually.
I fully expect you to deflect this to something else since no lies were told.

And if LeBron actually lost 40 pounds, we'd be suspicious. But he didn't and this has already been explained to you multiple times.

At this point you're just blatantly trolling.

lol, I literally gave you the photo, links and reminded you of reality.

Your posts like this make me feel better, because it makes me realize that I'm not the delusional one.

Again, your photo doesn't prove anything, in fact if anything it helps my argument. That comparison photo does not show what someone who lost 40 pounds looks like.

You gave me one link, and it was from a thread where the OP claims LeBron lost 40 pounds, and he did nothing to actually prove it.

As I mentioned before, when LeBron left Miami, he weighed around 260. At the beginning of the 2015 season, his weight was at 240. So again, like I asked you before and you ignored: where the hell are you getting 40 pounds from?

Again, do us all a favor and take your act somewhere else.

[bledredwine]

And if LeBron actually lost 40 pounds, we'd be suspicious. But he didn't and this has already been explained to you multiple times.

At this point you're just blatantly trolling.

lol, I literally gave you the photo, links and reminded you of reality.

Your posts like this make me feel better, because it makes me realize that I'm not the delusional one.

If James did lose 40 pounds, then surely there would have been multiple articles written specifically stating he lost that amount of weight.

Got the links?

Sure man. I can't find the article that I read back then, but here are some.
That said, the photo alone was proof. I posted the before after and he was skinny as a twig, completely normal looking.
I expect that you'll deny it no matter what I post though.

https://dailyknicks.com/2014/09/11/hgh-knick-nba-problem/

https://karencivil.com/2014/08/11/carmelo-anthony-lebron-james-show-major-weight-loss-low-carb-diet/

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/11313388/lebron-james-meets-cleveland-cavaliers-coach-david-blatt

[bledredwine]

lol, I literally gave you the photo, links and reminded you of reality.

Your posts like this make me feel better, because it makes me realize that I'm not the delusional one.

If James did lose 40 pounds, then surely there would have been multiple articles written specifically stating he lost that amount of weight.

Got the links?

Sure man. I can't find the article that I read back then, but here are some.
That said, the photo alone was proof. I posted the before after and he was skinny as a twig, completely normal looking.
I expect that you'll deny it no matter what I post though.

https://dailyknicks.com/2014/09/11/hgh-knick-nba-problem/

https://karencivil.com/2014/08/11/carmelo-anthony-lebron-james-show-major-weight-loss-low-carb-diet/

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/11313388/lebron-james-meets-cleveland-cavaliers-coach-david-blatt

Also, Kellerman talks at 2:20 of this video

This is what was happening at the time, not sure why you guys deny what literally happened.

Watch on YouTube

I guess I do know why, but it's still bizarre.

[Iwasawitness]

If James did lose 40 pounds, then surely there would have been multiple articles written specifically stating he lost that amount of weight.

Got the links?

Sure man. I can't find the article that I read back then, but here are some.
That said, the photo alone was proof. I posted the before after and he was skinny as a twig, completely normal looking.
I expect that you'll deny it no matter what I post though.

https://dailyknicks.com/2014/09/11/hgh-knick-nba-problem/

https://karencivil.com/2014/08/11/carmelo-anthony-lebron-james-show-major-weight-loss-low-carb-diet/

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/11313388/lebron-james-meets-cleveland-cavaliers-coach-david-blatt

Also, Kellerman talks at 2:20 of this video

This is what was happening at the time, not sure why you guys deny what literally happened.

Watch on YouTube

I guess I do know why, but it's still bizarre.

Now you've got an article claiming LeBron lost 50 pounds

I would advise using more credible resources, not ones written by obvious hacks who don't have basic math skills.

[bledredwine]

Sure man. I can't find the article that I read back then, but here are some.
That said, the photo alone was proof. I posted the before after and he was skinny as a twig, completely normal looking.
I expect that you'll deny it no matter what I post though.

https://dailyknicks.com/2014/09/11/hgh-knick-nba-problem/

https://karencivil.com/2014/08/11/carmelo-anthony-lebron-james-show-major-weight-loss-low-carb-diet/

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/11313388/lebron-james-meets-cleveland-cavaliers-coach-david-blatt

Also, Kellerman talks at 2:20 of this video

This is what was happening at the time, not sure why you guys deny what literally happened.

Watch on YouTube

I guess I do know why, but it's still bizarre.

Now you've got an article claiming LeBron lost 50 pounds

I would advise using more credible resources, not ones written by obvious hacks who don't have basic math skills.

Knew you'd be in denial, just like you are that he choked in 2011. Insanity.

[bledredwine]

Watch on YouTube

For anyone who actually wants to remember what was going on and how suspicious it was.

There were way too many anomaly moments for him to have not been on gear. The visuals alone confirm it.

Off the gear, he looked like a normal guy.... very tall and strong but normal.

This also has Chael Sonnen mentioning that they have the same guy for the gear
Chael has factually been on steroids, and has admitted so, by the way.

David Alexander, who trained lebron was found to be dealing gear as well
https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/38089564/tony-bosch-biogenesis-treated-wwe-star-big-show-boxer-shannon-briggs-others

‘I’LL TELL YOU EXACTLY WHAT HE’S TAKING! HE’S USING EPO, AND HOW DO I KNOW? BECAUSE I’M USING THE EXACT SAME SUPPLIER TO GET EPO!’ - Chael

[Iwasawitness]

Also, Kellerman talks at 2:20 of this video

This is what was happening at the time, not sure why you guys deny what literally happened.

Watch on YouTube

I guess I do know why, but it's still bizarre.

Now you've got an article claiming LeBron lost 50 pounds

I would advise using more credible resources, not ones written by obvious hacks who don't have basic math skills.

Knew you'd be in denial, just like you are that he choked in 2011. Insanity.

It's not a matter of denial. It's a matter of basic math.

So I'll ask the same question I asked you before: if LeBron weighed 260 in Miami, and his weight was down to 240 at the start of the season, how did he lose 40 pounds, let alone 50? You've dodged this question multiple times now.

[The4thHorseman]

lol, I literally gave you the photo, links and reminded you of reality.

Your posts like this make me feel better, because it makes me realize that I'm not the delusional one.

If James did lose 40 pounds, then surely there would have been multiple articles written specifically stating he lost that amount of weight.

Got the links?

Sure man. I can't find the article that I read back then, but here are some.
That said, the photo alone was proof. I posted the before after and he was skinny as a twig, completely normal looking.
I expect that you'll deny it no matter what I post though.

https://dailyknicks.com/2014/09/11/hgh-knick-nba-problem/

https://karencivil.com/2014/08/11/carmelo-anthony-lebron-james-show-major-weight-loss-low-carb-diet/

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/11313388/lebron-james-meets-cleveland-cavaliers-coach-david-blatt

Im not opening any of those. Just copy and paste where it says that he lost 40 pounds and the link.

[bledredwine]

Knew you'd be in denial, just like you are that he choked in 2011. Insanity.

It's not a matter of denial. It's a matter of basic math.

So I'll ask the same question I asked you before: if LeBron weighed 260 in Miami, and his weight was down to 240 at the start of the season, how did he lose 40 pounds, let alone 50? You've dodged this question multiple times now.

Then how about you don't dodge all of the questions I've asked you in other threads?

By the way, look at the photos. The reported weight was 240 and 260, which is still suspicious and a huge difference,
coupled with the fact that compared to his standard, he was off that season. There was plenty of speculation because it was
clearly more than 20 pounds. I'm not going to believe that was the number, especially seeing that he looked more like a twig.

Regardless, I've supplied plenty of evidence to judge and to remind everyone of what was happening. You can post as usual and I'll ignore as usual.

[Iwasawitness]

Knew you'd be in denial, just like you are that he choked in 2011. Insanity.

It's not a matter of denial. It's a matter of basic math.

So I'll ask the same question I asked you before: if LeBron weighed 260 in Miami, and his weight was down to 240 at the start of the season, how did he lose 40 pounds, let alone 50? You've dodged this question multiple times now.

Then how about you don't dodge all of the questions I've asked you in other threads?

By the way, look at the photos. The reported weight was 240 and 260, which is still suspicious and a huge difference,
coupled with the fact that compared to his standard, he was off that season. There was plenty of speculation because it was
clearly more than 20 pounds. I'm not going to believe that was the number, especially seeing that he looked more like a twig.

Regardless, I've supplied plenty of evidence to judge and to remind everyone of what was happening. You can post as usual and I'll ignore as usual.

It's just as I figured: another trolling act from you that for some reason you keep getting away with.

Posts a photo of someone looking slightly slimmer and that somehow is a 40 pound weight difference

Never change.

[The4thHorseman]

If James did lose 40 pounds, then surely there would have been multiple articles written specifically stating he lost that amount of weight.

Got the links?

Sure man. I can't find the article that I read back then, but here are some.
That said, the photo alone was proof. I posted the before after and he was skinny as a twig, completely normal looking.
I expect that you'll deny it no matter what I post though.

https://dailyknicks.com/2014/09/11/hgh-knick-nba-problem/

https://karencivil.com/2014/08/11/carmelo-anthony-lebron-james-show-major-weight-loss-low-carb-diet/

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/11313388/lebron-james-meets-cleveland-cavaliers-coach-david-blatt

Im not opening any of those. Just copy and paste where it says that he lost 40 pounds and the link.

Yeah didn't think so :yawn:

[Iwasawitness]

If James did lose 40 pounds, then surely there would have been multiple articles written specifically stating he lost that amount of weight.

Got the links?

Sure man. I can't find the article that I read back then, but here are some.
That said, the photo alone was proof. I posted the before after and he was skinny as a twig, completely normal looking.
I expect that you'll deny it no matter what I post though.

https://dailyknicks.com/2014/09/11/hgh-knick-nba-problem/

https://karencivil.com/2014/08/11/carmelo-anthony-lebron-james-show-major-weight-loss-low-carb-diet/

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/11313388/lebron-james-meets-cleveland-cavaliers-coach-david-blatt

Im not opening any of those. Just copy and paste where it says that he lost 40 pounds and the link.

He's not going to, because there is no credible outlet confirming that LeBron lost 40 pounds.

FYI, I read all three and they're all over the place. One claims he lost 30, and then there's one that claims be lost 50, which is laughable for a multitude of reasons.

The only credible one he actually posted just claims LeBron lost "over 10 pounds", which is definitely true.

It's just bled doing the same **** he always does.

[parapooper]

Regardless, I've supplied plenty of evidence to judge and to remind everyone of what was happening. You can post as usual and I'll ignore as usual.

Sorry to burst your bubble, but a person who makes 14600 hate posts about one player estimating that same players weight loss from 2 photographs and hand-selecting some "this random person on the internet said that"-posts (who all say different things) is not considered "plenty of evidence" by anyone who doesn't have a serious mental disorder.

Even if Lebron had lost 40 pounds (which only nutters claim) - how does that have anything to do with PEDs? You could easily start or stop PEDs and gain 50 pounds ...

[bisme37]

Guys, winning an argument on this website doesn't actually make LeBron James be on PEDs or not in real life.

Feels like we've beaten the back-and-forth into the ground at this point. I suppose y'all are free to continue this in the GOAT thread, but imo it might be nice to take a day off and do something that's actually enjoyable.