Best and Worst Deals of The 25 Off-Season

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Re: Best and Worst Deals of The 25 Off-Season 

Post#21 » by vege » Today 5:38 am

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chilluminati wrote:Thankfully the Duncan Robinson deal is only guaranteed for 1 year. I do agree it's not the best, but given the Beasley situation Trajan had to pivot fast knowing he was going to lose Hardaway too.

I'm willing to give Duncan a shot on basically a 1 year deal that we can get out of. I don't think he's as terrible as others think too. His shot should open up a lot with Cade's gravity.


Yeah I see no problem with the Ducan Robinson deal. It’s a 1 year inflated contract that gives them flexibility to trade him during the season


Even the 1 year inflated contract is not bad, because Detroit dumped 8+ million of dead money into Miami. Fontecchio was not going to get playing time in Detroit, there were reports Detroit was trying to dump him (adding assets).

Fontecchio hopefully will be a good player for Miami (he seems to be a great guy), but he did not fit into JB's system, he was terrible.
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Re: Best and Worst Deals of The 25 Off-Season 

Post#22 » by Slim Tubby » Today 5:44 am

Richard4444 wrote:Clarkson (vet min) and Yabusele (11/2) were good friendly deals for the Knicks.
I'm not a Knicks fan but it's impossible to deny that both of those signings are great value deals and make NY stronger. Sneaky good offseason for them.

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Re: Best and Worst Deals of The 25 Off-Season 

Post#23 » by pepe1991 » Today 5:47 am

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pepe1991 wrote:Worst is Pelicans trade on draft night.


To be determined.


Eh, not really... They gave up unprotected 2026 pick in season where their objective chance at making playoffs, on West, is like 0,1%.

On top of that, they drafted guy that:
1) was probably going to be there at 23# regardless
2) isn't position of need for them
3) wasn't that good of a player, even by college standards, in general.

You watch him even in SL, and yea, that whole "Baby Jokić" is more like "Baby Šarić". His desire to pass the ball surpasses his ability to pass the ball. He isn't that athletic, he has no burst, he can't go around defenders, he isn't much of a treat to shoot.

And even if he is much better prospect than he is, that trade still makes ZERO sense given fact that Pelicans will probably struggle to win 35 games again, but this time around, they will have no pick.

Btw Missi and Matković were fine last year, drafting another C makes so little sense ,roster construction vise. Their PG rotation is Jordan Poole, Murray who won't even suit up for probably 80% of a season and Alvarado. If you are dead set to notion that you will burn pick no matter what, at least draft player on position that you actually need...

It's such a dumb trade on so many levels.
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Re: Best and Worst Deals of The 25 Off-Season 

Post#24 » by Mavrelous » Today 6:17 am

DFS has only 2 years guaranteed, it's a great deal, not a bad one.
If we're talking strictly FA signings, I think teams have become much smarter and there aren't any egregiously bad deals, if we include trades, then it's NOP trading unprotected 26 1st for Derrik Queen, the more you think about this deal, the worse it gets.
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Re: Best and Worst Deals of The 25 Off-Season 

Post#25 » by Ruma85 » Today 6:20 am

pepe1991 wrote:
Ruma85 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:Worst is Pelicans trade on draft night.


To be determined.


Eh, not really... They gave up unprotected 2026 pick in season where their objective chance at making playoffs, on West, is like 0,1%.

On top of that, they drafted guy that:
1) was probably going to be there at 23# regardless
2) isn't position of need for them
3) wasn't that good of a player, even by college standards, in general.

You watch him even in SL, and yea, that whole "Baby Jokić" is more like "Baby Šarić". His desire to pass the ball surpasses his ability to pass the ball. He isn't that athletic, he has no burst, he can't go around defenders, he isn't much of a treat to shoot.

And even if he is much better prospect than he is, that trade still makes ZERO sense given fact that Pelicans will probably struggle to win 35 games again, but this time around, they will have no pick.

Btw Missi and Matković were fine last year, drafting another C makes so little sense ,roster construction vise. Their PG rotation is Jordan Poole, Murray who won't even suit up for probably 80% of a season and Alvarado. If you are dead set to notion that you will burn pick no matter what, at least draft player on position that you actually need...


It's such a dumb trade on so many levels.


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Re: Best and Worst Deals of The 25 Off-Season 

Post#26 » by tmorgan » Today 7:29 am

Two things about the Pels (which, yes, I still think was a terrible trade, but….)

1) They’d already drafted a PG prospect in Fears (tho his lack of passing in SL was a little scary)
2) No chance Queen was going to be there at 23
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Re: Best and Worst Deals of The 25 Off-Season 

Post#27 » by UcanUwill » Today 7:45 am

pepe1991 wrote:
Ruma85 wrote:
pepe1991 wrote:Worst is Pelicans trade on draft night.


To be determined.


Eh, not really... They gave up unprotected 2026 pick in season where their objective chance at making playoffs, on West, is like 0,1%.

On top of that, they drafted guy that:
1) was probably going to be there at 23# regardless
2) isn't position of need for them
3) wasn't that good of a player, even by college standards, in general.

You watch him even in SL, and yea, that whole "Baby Jokić" is more like "Baby Šarić". His desire to pass the ball surpasses his ability to pass the ball. He isn't that athletic, he has no burst, he can't go around defenders, he isn't much of a treat to shoot.

And even if he is much better prospect than he is, that trade still makes ZERO sense given fact that Pelicans will probably struggle to win 35 games again, but this time around, they will have no pick.

Btw Missi and Matković were fine last year, drafting another C makes so little sense ,roster construction vise. Their PG rotation is Jordan Poole, Murray who won't even suit up for probably 80% of a season and Alvarado. If you are dead set to notion that you will burn pick no matter what, at least draft player on position that you actually need...

It's such a dumb trade on so many levels.


I agree Pels trade is worst deal, making Atlanta the best deal, but there is no way Queen is still there at 23. There is a world where Queen ends up very good and Pels look smart at the end. Of course, the world where Atlanta drafts someone like Boozer with Pels pick next year, is far more likely world.

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