Mavrelous wrote:mademan wrote:Mavrelous wrote:I have Luka as a tier above, slightly worse as a scorer, tiers above as playmaker, SGA defense is insanely overrated, but it's what have you done for me lately league, and he had the supporting cast to win, but chose to come back out of shape and give Nico the excuse to trade him, until this happens, the reigning MVP and champion is ahead and should be considered better, while Luka needs to build a contender from scratch again.
A tier above is crazy considering the advanced metrics like Shai a lot more. I can see people liking Luka better, but a whole tier? That's underselling Shai, who probably posted the best guard season outside of MJ/Curry, or horribly overrating Luka.
People are allowed to have opinions that don't align with advanced stats...
I've long argued roster construction plays bigger part in so called advanced impact stats than players performance themselves.
You either think SGA the best guard season ever, because no one comes close to hiss tats, or that we're dealing with extrapolation outside of stats intended range of modeling.
I think Shai is a top tier scorer and a genuinely + defender who's able to guard 'up' in positions, which is hugely valuable, especially in the pick-on-them modern era as your pg is usually your defensive weak-link. I think youre underselling the difference in being a + defender and being a continuous target.
Curry and MJ's stats are still better than Shai's, but yes, Shai is a historically great guard in the NBA and has had a season, beginning to end, that outclasses anything Luka has ever done. I still like Luka as being potentially a better player (maybe as soon as next year) as i value playmaking highly, but it's hard to squint currently and see him as better than Shai, let alone a whole tier greater.