Javale McGee dominating the Australian league

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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#21 » by SlimShady83 » Wed Oct 1, 2025 6:51 pm

Lockdown504090 wrote:1.He cant do that to every team in australlia,
2. Everyone can score more, its just that other people can do it better, thats why coaches dont allow them.
3. This is why calling role players bums doesnt usually make sense( Some just arent scorers like that)



Exactly this, I'm actually going to start watching the NBL again, not because of McGee, just because I miss it, haven't watched it in a long, long time, highlights here and there but not full games.

Also how good is the Tas team? For those who watch the NBL :)
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#22 » by f4p » Wed Oct 1, 2025 6:57 pm

Bank Shot wrote:I imagine this is super fun for a guy who was told to not do anything on the offensive end besides board and catch lobs for 16 years.


yeah it's crazy how you can be so good at basketball but then you have to play your whole career in the nba and be very limited compared to your actual skillset because your skillset just does not translate in the nba. the freedom to just go crush people with all the moves you always wanted to do must be amazing. granted, the trade-off for the limitations of the nba are those 8 figure salaries, so i would gladly do it.
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#23 » by f4p » Wed Oct 1, 2025 6:58 pm

TheCage4 wrote:McGee didn't have the mental fortitude to make it in the NBA.



i mean he played 16 years in the nba.
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#24 » by In-N-Out 247 » Wed Oct 1, 2025 7:04 pm

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TheCage4 wrote:McGee didn't have the mental fortitude to make it in the NBA.



i mean he played 16 years in the nba.


I was gonna say - he had a really long career. Not everyone is a superstar
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#25 » by Mirotic12 » Wed Oct 1, 2025 7:09 pm

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The NBL is an elite league. Better than China, and almost on the level of Euroleague.


It's not on the level of Euroleague.
Not underestimating anything but the top8 teams of the Euroleague for example would have been the top8 teams in Australia quite easily.


Looking at these highlights, speed and athleticism of the players in nowhere close to Euroleague. I do not think it is comparable at all, based on player transfers and stats, it would around LKL or Polska Liga, bottom top 10 Euro domestic stage, maybe better than that.

But still tho, its a PRO league with many fans, televised games, known brands etc etc. Most pro basketball players who inspired children, and were beloved and hated by thousands of fans, most of these guys never played in the NBA. To come out on internet message boards and say that him dominating is empty is pointless is big winner move right there...


I agree. Using the FIBA Intercontinental Cup games, NBL against EuroLeague games, NBL against NBA games, and NBA against EuroLeague games just as rough comparison, the NBL is a bit below the secondary level in Europe.

Meaning, it's a bit below the general standard of the mid level European leagues like EuroCup and FIBA BCL, and better than the lower tier ones like FIBA Europe Cup.

If we want to break that down to a domestic level, then that means the NBL is worse than the better national leagues in Europe.

Because the good national and regional leagues in Europe are relatively at the same tier level as the EuroCup and BCL. They aren't quite as good, but close enough that they are in that same tier.

So that's like ACB (Spain), GBL (Greece), BSL (Turkey), Lega A (Italy), Pro A (France), VTB (Russia), ABA (Adriatic/ex Yugo), BBL (Germany), and BPL (Isreal), that are better, and then as you said, the NBL is probably about the level of the LKL (Lithuania), and probably better than the PLK (Poland).

Although the LKL has gotten a lot better in like the last 5 years, and it might be better as well in the next 2 to 3 years.
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#26 » by LuDux1 » Wed Oct 1, 2025 7:48 pm

Meanwhile/week ago, in Lithuania, Cam Reddish went 9-4-4 and 3/12 FG against Zalgiris (that just won In Monaco against Spanoulis/Mirotic/Theis/Mike James)
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Post#27 » by dirkdiggler4177 » Wed Oct 1, 2025 8:41 pm

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dirkdiggler4177 wrote:The difference between the NBA and, for example, the G-League is the tempo (mostly). There are better shooters all around the world than in the NBA, but those shooters need a bit more time to get their shot off; they are not used to the defender coming that fast. It's like every NBA wing player can do all of Kobe's moves, but they can't do it at the same speed as him. That is why McGee is so great playing outside the NBA; the speed of the competition is so slow that he is able to see all the plays.


The ball movement in the NBA is actually quite slow, as far as top pro leagues go. In recent years, the NBA has gotten a lot better with that, but it's still much slower than any other good pro league.

The ball moves faster through ball movement, than any player can with the ball.

This is made extremely clear whenever Team USA plays in the Olympics or the World Cup. Most Team USA players struggle on defense at those tournaments and can't keep up with the pace and speed of the half court play.

A team full of all time great NBA players can barely beat Serbia and France at the Olympics, because they are unable to deal with how fast the half court play of the opponent is.

A team of NBA all stars, can't even get a bronze medal at the World Cup, because they can't deal with how fast the half court play is.


It's faster, but to blame that on the results is wrong imo. There are so many factors that make it hard for Team USA. The ball movement is just one of very many.
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#28 » by Mephariel » Wed Oct 1, 2025 8:55 pm

Mirotic12 wrote:
dirkdiggler4177 wrote:The difference between the NBA and, for example, the G-League is the tempo (mostly). There are better shooters all around the world than in the NBA, but those shooters need a bit more time to get their shot off; they are not used to the defender coming that fast. It's like every NBA wing player can do all of Kobe's moves, but they can't do it at the same speed as him. That is why McGee is so great playing outside the NBA; the speed of the competition is so slow that he is able to see all the plays.


The ball movement in the NBA is actually quite slow, as far as top pro leagues go. In recent years, the NBA has gotten a lot better with that, but it's still much slower than any other good pro league.

The ball moves faster through ball movement, than any player can with the ball.

This is made extremely clear whenever Team USA plays in the Olympics or the World Cup. Most Team USA players struggle on defense at those tournaments and can't keep up with the pace and speed of the half court play.

A team full of all time great NBA players can barely beat Serbia and France at the Olympics, because they are unable to deal with how fast the half court play of the opponent is.

A team of NBA all stars, can't even get a bronze medal at the World Cup, because they can't deal with how fast the half court play is.


The USA didn't lose a single game in the Olympics, but struggled in half court play? LOL.

The USA can barely beat Serbia and France because it is a small sample size. In a single game tournament, if you play enough, you can always find a game that the USA struggles. I can also find a game where USA blows out European teams by 30 points and say the European teams are slow.
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#29 » by NZB2323 » Wed Oct 1, 2025 11:51 pm

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NZB2323 wrote:Dominating the Australian league seems like it would be a great life.


How? It would feel empty and pointless. "Oh Im dominating these plebs down undahhhh"


I had a blast dominating my middle school private league, and the Australian league is way better than that, pays a lot better, has more fans, and actually has cheerleaders.
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#30 » by ChuckChilly » Thu Oct 2, 2025 4:07 am

Ive always said if you put Tim Duncan's brain in McGee's body, you'd have the best player to ever play.
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#31 » by jmo21 » Thu Oct 2, 2025 6:46 am

I bet he is absolutely loving it.

Vast majority of all NBA role players dominated in high school, make it to the NBA, then have to find a niche to stick in the NBA.

For a guy like Javale, it must be amazing to get to play like this. He had a long NBA career, couple of titles, on some really good teams, but was never any kind of star, but a decent career.
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#32 » by zimpy27 » Thu Oct 2, 2025 6:55 am

McGee has always been a big stats guy when you look at his efficiency.

Impact metrics is the issue with him.

His team lost the game btw.
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#33 » by SlimShady83 » Thu Oct 2, 2025 7:23 am

zimpy27 wrote:McGee has always been a big stats guy when you look at his efficiency.

Impact metrics is the issue with him.

His team lost the game btw.


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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#34 » by pepe1991 » Thu Oct 2, 2025 7:36 am

LuDux1 wrote:Meanwhile/week ago, in Lithuania, Cam Reddish went 9-4-4 and 3/12 FG against Zalgiris (that just won In Monaco against Spanoulis/Mirotic/Theis/Mike James)


Probably one of most overrated nba prospects in terms of actual production vs expetations.

He sucked at college. Got drafted 10th.
He sucked as a rookie. Got promoted into starter.
Than he got even worst in second year.

Guy has pretty face, probably should have been actor that plays pro athletes in movies. ( like Juancho Hernangómez, who is bench warmer in Panathinaikos)

it is kind a fascinating how much time nba teams waste on terrible "prospects". My Magic wasted half of a decade on Fultz :banghead:
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#35 » by PlatinumState » Thu Oct 2, 2025 8:34 am

pepe1991 wrote:
LuDux1 wrote:Meanwhile/week ago, in Lithuania, Cam Reddish went 9-4-4 and 3/12 FG against Zalgiris (that just won In Monaco against Spanoulis/Mirotic/Theis/Mike James)


Probably one of most overrated nba prospects in terms of actual production vs expetations.

He sucked at college. Got drafted 10th.
He sucked as a rookie. Got promoted into starter.
Than he got even worst in second year.

Guy has pretty face, probably should have been actor that plays pro athletes in movies. ( like Juancho Hernangómez, who is bench warmer in Panathinaikos)

it is kind a fascinating how much time nba teams waste on terrible "prospects". My Magic wasted half of a decade on Fultz :banghead:


Cam had the physical tools and defensive potential but Im guessing not a work ethic. Sometimes teams take a swing at the fences and miss
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#36 » by zimpy27 » Thu Oct 2, 2025 8:42 am

pepe1991 wrote:
LuDux1 wrote:Meanwhile/week ago, in Lithuania, Cam Reddish went 9-4-4 and 3/12 FG against Zalgiris (that just won In Monaco against Spanoulis/Mirotic/Theis/Mike James)


Probably one of most overrated nba prospects in terms of actual production vs expetations.

He sucked at college. Got drafted 10th.
He sucked as a rookie. Got promoted into starter.
Than he got even worst in second year.

Guy has pretty face, probably should have been actor that plays pro athletes in movies. ( like Juancho Hernangómez, who is bench warmer in Panathinaikos)

it is kind a fascinating how much time nba teams waste on terrible "prospects". My Magic wasted half of a decade on Fultz :banghead:



Cam is a good defender with a pretty shot. The mechanics are great but he misses his shots.

I think it is amazing how good he looks vs how bad he is.
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#37 » by Deivork » Thu Oct 2, 2025 10:38 am

Nice to see. He's always been soo big and athletic. Really impressive from a physical point of view.
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#38 » by LuDux1 » Thu Oct 2, 2025 10:40 am

LuDux1 wrote:Meanwhile/week ago, in Lithuania, Cam Reddish went 9-4-4 and 3/12 FG against Zalgiris (that just won In Monaco against Spanoulis/Mirotic/Theis/Mike James)


EDIT: TBF he joined team about a week before this game
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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#39 » by Calvin Klein » Thu Oct 2, 2025 12:07 pm

Anddd they lost.

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Re: Javale McGee dominating the Australian league 

Post#40 » by bonita_the_frog » Thu Oct 2, 2025 12:23 pm

In 2018-19 JaVale McGee was playing for the Lakers and he scored 33 points, 20 rebounds, 6 blocks, 15-20 shooting vs. Brooklyn Nets, and had TEN games of 20+ points that season.

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