Better FIBA Player: Jokic vs Luka

[LuDux1]

Comparing teams across eras is impossible, unless..

I thought it's impossible to compare because of political changes. But what if we ignore such teams? Probably silly, but still
Spain 9 golds - 9 silvers - 6 bronzes
Czechoslovakia 9-5-3
Italy 7-8-6
Greece 5-4-4
Poland 3-3-2
Hungary 2-1-3
Bulgaria 2-0-6
Turkey 2-0-0
France 1-11-7
Egypt 1-1-0
Israel 1-0-1
Finland 0-0-1
Switzerland 0-0-1
Belgium 0-0-1
Netherlands 0-0-1

Eurobasket only
Technically Czechoslovakia shouldn't be here, but Slovakia is not strong and it's my rules anyway

[Calvin Klein]

Let's just dismiss a whole team winning Eurobasket because "they got lucky".

[Mirotic12]

Spain is clearly the most decorated team in post-Era Of Empires basketball:
Gold-Silver-Bronze
4-3-3 Spain
3-2-1 Serbia+
1-3-1 Lithuania
1-2-2 France
1-1-2 Russia
1-1-1 Germany
1-1-1 Italy
1-0-1 Greece
1-0-0 Slovenia
0-1-0 Turkey
0-0-2 Croatia

Comparing teams across eras is impossible, unless..

Most of Serbia's claimed success was under FR Yugoslavia.

Serbia itself has not even won the EuroBasket.

Hence Serbia+

Yeah, but still, it really shouldn't be credited to Serbia at all.

Otherwise, why not give Russia all of the Soviet medals.

[Mirotic12]

I thought it's impossible to compare because of political changes. But what if we ignore such teams? Probably silly, but still
Spain 9 golds - 9 silvers - 6 bronzes
Czechoslovakia 9-5-3
Italy 7-8-6
Greece 5-4-4
Poland 3-3-2
Hungary 2-1-3
Bulgaria 2-0-6
Turkey 2-0-0
France 1-11-7
Egypt 1-1-0
Israel 1-0-1
Finland 0-0-1
Switzerland 0-0-1
Belgium 0-0-1
Netherlands 0-0-1

Eurobasket only
Technically Czechoslovakia shouldn't be here, but Slovakia is not strong and it's my rules anyway

There is absolutely no possible way that Spain could have won that many medals.

[LuDux1]

I thought it's impossible to compare because of political changes. But what if we ignore such teams? Probably silly, but still
Spain 9 golds - 9 silvers - 6 bronzes
Czechoslovakia 9-5-3
Italy 7-8-6
Greece 5-4-4
Poland 3-3-2
Hungary 2-1-3
Bulgaria 2-0-6
Turkey 2-0-0
France 1-11-7
Egypt 1-1-0
Israel 1-0-1
Finland 0-0-1
Switzerland 0-0-1
Belgium 0-0-1
Netherlands 0-0-1

Eurobasket only
Technically Czechoslovakia shouldn't be here, but Slovakia is not strong and it's my rules anyway

There is absolutely no possible way that Spain could have won that many medals.

If you mean that my calculations wrong, then my answer is "could be", I didn't double-check them.
If you mean that being best non-Soviet/Yugoslavian/German NT doesn't mean they would have won theoretical final game against 2nd best non-S/Y/G NT, my answer is "true", it's just thought experiment

[LuDux1]

Most of Serbia's claimed success was under FR Yugoslavia.

Serbia itself has not even won the EuroBasket.

Hence Serbia+

Yeah, but still, it really shouldn't be credited to Serbia at all.

Otherwise, why not give Russia all of the Soviet medals.

They kept the trophies already, don't they?

According to my calculations, in 6 Eurobaskets 1995-2003, Serbs contributes 89% of points, Montenegrins 10 and a Macedonian 1%

Yugoslavia 1961(when they started winning medals)-1991
Serbia 49%
Croatia 36%
Slovenia 8%
Montenegro 3%
Bosnia&Herzogovina 4%
Macedonia >1%

Soviet Union 1947-1989:
Russia 44%
Lithuania 18%
Ukraine 11%
Latvia 9%
Estonia 7%
Georgia 7%
Kazakhstan 2%
Belarus 1%
Armenia 1%
Azerbaijan >1%

[Mirotic12]

Hence Serbia+

Yeah, but still, it really shouldn't be credited to Serbia at all.

Otherwise, why not give Russia all of the Soviet medals.

They kept the trophies already, don't they?

According to my calculations, in 6 Eurobaskets 1995-2003, Serbs contributes 89% of points, Montenegrins 10 and a Macedonian 1%

Yugoslavia 1961(when they started winning medals)-1991
Serbia 49%
Croatia 36%
Slovenia 8%
Montenegro 3%
Bosnia&Herzogovina 4%
Macedonia >1%

Soviet Union 1947-1989:
Russia 44%
Lithuania 18%
Ukraine 11%
Latvia 9%
Estonia 7%
Georgia 7%
Kazakhstan 2%
Belarus 1%
Armenia 1%
Azerbaijan >1%

Which is why FIBA counts all the medals separately.