The Dallas Mavericks now have the 4th best defense and the 30th best offense, will defense win them the championship?

[Indomitable]

Regardless of feelings about the trade, doesn't Kyrie make like $10-15M less per year than Luka in the coming seasons, or did I miss something?

Yes, and the funny thing is that the Lakers signed Luka for a lot less than the super max... Harrison works for them.
No doubt about it. That's sure.

They couldn't even offer him the supermax anymore since he wasn't eligible for a supermax after being traded, but if Dallas had resigned him, there would have been an even larger gap between him and Kyrie's salaries.

So

[og15]

Yes, and the funny thing is that the Lakers signed Luka for a lot less than the super max... Harrison works for them.
No doubt about it. That's sure.

They couldn't even offer him the supermax anymore since he wasn't eligible for a supermax after being traded, but if Dallas had resigned him, there would have been an even larger gap between him and Kyrie's salaries.

So

You would need to continue for me to understand what you are trying to tell me here

[tsherkin]

I think it's abundantly clear through a lens of common sense that Dallas isn't winning the title this year.

Flagg looks good, though; the future looks bright.

[Indomitable]

They couldn't even offer him the supermax anymore since he wasn't eligible for a supermax after being traded, but if Dallas had resigned him, there would have been an even larger gap between him and Kyrie's salaries.

So

You would need to continue for me to understand what you are trying to tell me here

So
Kyrie is a 34 year old pg..
You let him test the market and he would have been disappointed.
Luka was a 26 year old MVP candidate. You pay the man.

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[ryguy613]

Anthony Davis has averaged 21-10 with 2.8 Stocks across 5 games. He's also injured

Obviously no Kyrie

Just for the full story, the Lakers have the 11th best offense and the 14th best defense WITH Luka averaging 45 ppg and Reaves averaging 32 ppg, which is kind of absurd because the rest of this team must be trash on offense for that to happen.

The big question is, who will be more important to their team winning? Kyrie returning or "the 40 year old King" LeBron James.

why do you even have a poll? lol. you arent asking this from a neutral standpoint. you wanna lead people to a particular answer. if you wanna argue that Mavs are winning it all this year just come out and say it with your chest.

[ryguy613]

We can agree to disagree. I don't think it was collusion. Is it so crazy to think that Nico would look at supermax for Luka and wonder if it is the right path? They didn't know at the time that Kyrie would tear his ACL.

So trading a generational talent who is 26 years old and just led your team to the finals the previous season was the right move? Especially trading him for injury prone Davis and Max Christie, that was enough? The trade was a blunder of proportion. There is no way i wouldn’t have paid Luka. Flagg is great but Luka is special.

Luka has never led a team to a championship. He still has a lot of time to do that. The Mavs, who knew him best, traded him because they didn't believe he was capable of doing it.

the mavs who "knew him best" did not believe that a dude who led a team to the finals one year prior was capable of winning 3 more games than they did? and this is a team you think made a wise decision... because they "knew him best" lol

[Archx]

So trading a generational talent who is 26 years old and just led your team to the finals the previous season was the right move? Especially trading him for injury prone Davis and Max Christie, that was enough? The trade was a blunder of proportion. There is no way i wouldn’t have paid Luka. Flagg is great but Luka is special.

Luka has never led a team to a championship. He still has a lot of time to do that. The Mavs, who knew him best, traded him because they didn't believe he was capable of doing it.

the mavs who "knew him best" did not believe that a dude who led a team to the finals one year prior was capable of winning 3 more games than they did? and this is a team you think made a wise decision... because they "knew him best" lol

Even their own players know it was BS

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[ryguy613]

Luka has never led a team to a championship. He still has a lot of time to do that. The Mavs, who knew him best, traded him because they didn't believe he was capable of doing it.

the mavs who "knew him best" did not believe that a dude who led a team to the finals one year prior was capable of winning 3 more games than they did? and this is a team you think made a wise decision... because they "knew him best" lol

Even their own players know it was BS

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more than one player...

[Shock Defeat]

Dallas fans have it the worse. Mavs are a joke. Cowboys are a joke. Rangers are irrelevant.

[Special_Puppy]

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Any time you rank below that 02-03 Nuggets team, you are doing something wrong.

[og15]

So

You would need to continue for me to understand what you are trying to tell me here

So
Kyrie is a 34 year old pg..
You let him test the market and he would have been disappointed.
Luka was a 26 year old MVP candidate. You pay the man.

Yes you do, yes you do

[Ssj16]

I know you apparently live with a basketball coach but that doesn't automatically make you qualified to talk basketball.

I still don't get the point you are trying to prove with those regular season games and how they correlate to the Mavs somehow being better this year without Luka.

It's a strawmans argument anyways because everyone except Nico knows that AD is Mr glass and the dude is injured once again and the Mavs are currently one of the worst teams.

We have evidence that Luka can lead this team to deep playoff runs and has been way more available in his career than AD has ever been.

I feel like you gotta take the L on this one.

You don't get my point or you can't read?
I literally just told you, and I even showed you what I was replying to-

All I did was prove the Mavs roster (with Kyrie, and without AD, and without Doncic) is good enough to beat OKC three times in a regular season.
That means they are not "bad" at "creating for themselves or others".
Those THREE wins over OKC prove when you add Kyrie to these Mavs, you don't have a "bad" offensive roster at all...

I don't believe you understand how bad Mavs roster is in creating for themselves or others. They have the worst offensive rtg for the reason. This team was built for Luka, who was the whole system. Now you have just bunch of role players, who can't create anything.

Rockets have Sengun, who can shoot and playmake. Mavs have Lively and Gafford who can't do either.

Your case is dismissed. We're done!

1. You're putting way to much weight into regular season games. If Dallas without Luka beat that same OKC team in the playoffs, I would agree with you.

2. No one outside of yourself and Nico thinks this iteration of Dallas even if it was healthy (AD has a mid track record for health) is better than the Luka lead Dallas. You can create a poll and to find out. But you should be asking yourself why does everyone think this rather than pointing to 3 meaningless games in the regular season.

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I mean... In NBA history.

[MrGoat]

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I mean... In NBA history.

Let's put it this way. Their current 103.5 offensive rating would put them as tied for 28th place... in 2009. This offense wouldn't even have cut it in the pre 3 point explosion era

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2009.html

[41Dirk41]

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I mean... In NBA history.

Let's put it this way. Their current 103.5 offensive rating would put them as tied for 28th place... in 2009. This offense wouldn't even have cut it in the pre 3 point explosion era

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2009.html

So... You are telling me that Nico vision is not so good...

[MrGoat]

I mean... In NBA history.

Let's put it this way. Their current 103.5 offensive rating would put them as tied for 28th place... in 2009. This offense wouldn't even have cut it in the pre 3 point explosion era

https://www.basketball-reference.com/leagues/NBA_2009.html

So... You are telling me that Nico vision is not so good...

I wouldn't say that, Nico is bringing 00s ball back offensively, some of the old heads will love that. They would have also been 28th place in offense in 2007 as well.