Danilo Gallinari Retires From Basketball

[UcanUwill]

Faried was playing in Mexico City for goodness sake for several years prior and is currently 36 years old… that says something about the level of play.

You can have several players so far detached from their prime and be high level players in the Euroleague.

It clearly says a lot despite what you feel about it. You want to put caveats about it, umm okay… I am
sure most people didn’t know he was even still playing just like Gallinari.

The last time I heard about Gallinari is that he was salary filler for the Murray trade and was immediately waived.

It was great that he was some Puerto Rican MVP or something but like many have said, he has not been on anyone’s radar for a while.

And what does it say, that it is worse than NBA? Sure. Faried was good NBA player who played for team USA and won gold medals... Dude is at 1% of players in the world even at this stage, he is Basketball icon.

NBA is not even 0.5% of Basketball globally, if you only care about that, sure it tells you something. Sure even second best league is way less talented than the NBA, this is not news. You know how good NBA is, to most countries just having guy drafted would be amazing. I am a fan of Basketball, and I see very very good players every day who never were good enough to even get Euroleague contract, and I still consider them very good. Ignas Sargiūnas just made Basketball history, got global attention, he also shoots over 50% from 3 on his team, he never played in Euroleague, maybe never will. I follow Europe hoops and Euroleague is white whale to most of the players, and 95% of them will never reach that, and a lot of them are still very good. When watching National teams, even top NAtional teams considering, like Italy and Lithuania, we look at guys with ''Euroelague and NBA experience'', because that is still big achievement ever making any of these two leagues.

Faried also got very lucky as I said, he fit perfectly. Most washed NBA players do way worse, Kemba Walker was absolutely terrible in Monaco few years back for eaxmple. If anything, this just says a lot about Faried that he can still do this. To just get PAO contract is big, its a top 35 team in the world, for most players it would be achievement of a lifetime, but as I said Faried was winning gold medals with team USA. I was hoping my countrymen Marek, who dominates Turkish league now and was starting games for Lithuania in the Eurobasket over Jonas Valančiūnas would get this chance, but he still didn't. I was very surprised Faried performed this well, I did not have huge expectations of him at this age, I thought he was washed too, but dude killed it, it is probably not sustainable, and main PAO centers should come back at one point, but it tells a lot about a guy who can just join a team randomly and perform from day one.

[jojo4341]

Is it safe to say he's the Italian GOAT so far? Other notable Italians:

Andrea Bargnani
Marco Belinelli
Reggie Jackson

[Enso]

Enjoy life, Gallo. Could have made an All-Star team or two if it wasn't for the injuries. Good career anyway. He was also part of the infamous PG/SGA trade.

Just read this from his wikipedia page:

According to multiple sources, before Kim Kardashian began dating Kris Humphries, she was extremely interested in dating Gallinari, who was told that such a move would be good for his career and that he would garner lots of media exposure. Gallinari declined, saying he would be happy to meet Kardashian but wasn't interested in dating her.

How legendary is this guy?

He’s a g

[BigGargamel]

I'll always appreciate those decent post-Melo teams. Gallo, Lawson, Faried, Chandler. That was a fun bunch.

Thanks for the memories, Rooster!!

[Lalouie]

wow...i'm so used to seeing his name here he's like part of the basketball lexicon

[Mallie]

Is it safe to say he's the Italian GOAT so far? Other notable Italians:

Andrea Bargnani
Marco Belinelli
Reggie Jackson

Maybe if you're just listing the NBA guys. Otherwise, there are a lot of candidates. Meneghin, Marzoratti, Riva, Fućka, Myers...

[Mirotic12]

Gallinari was Puerto Rico league MVP or finals MVP this summer.

Also, Faried very surprisingly was named Euroleague MVP of November, he is just on short term contract because all PAO centers are injured, but he filled in amazingly well. But he is a player who relies on guard creation and the fact he landed on team with Sloukas, Nunn and Shorts did help him a lot. But he had games where he was also blocking shots etc, he looked great.

That said, Euroleague is still very very good and I will not let **** talk it. Beside the fact it is more entertaining and close game just play out without 25 minute stoppage time, tHis FIBA window was another reminder how good Euroleague players are in grand scheme of things, because few players of theirs that playing in FIBA window, just dominated. Satoransky was setting records and I was watching Italy games and their Euroleague player, Gabriele Procida looked unstoppable, you would have thought he is NBA player for sure. And thats the guy who is on Real Madrid, so you know he is good, but he only appeared in one Euroleague game this seaosn, he is DNP-CD over 90% of the time in EUroleague, and during FIBA windows he still looked like a superstar player. Having EL players on NAtional teams now, is like having NBA players 20 years ago.

More like 40 to 50 years ago. Ioannis Athinaiou might be the FIBA Euopean windows GOAT, and while he was a very skilled player, he was basically like Olympiacos' 10th to 12th man, at various times, when he was on the team.

As far as Faried is concerned, EuroLeague teams have zero info or scouring on Faried. All he does on offense is run the floor and dive to the basket from picks.

Once teams figure him out, they can totally neutrallize him if they want, other than him getting some lobs from guard creation here and there.

He's a hustle and energy guy, and teams will figure out how to shut him down eventually.

EuroLeague hadn't seen the types of players like Markus Howard or TJ Shorts in a really long time, and after every team scouted them and had a built in way of playing them, they are below average role players at best, and actually if you factor in defense, they are among the worst players in the league.

Or with the case of Nunn, EuroLeague teams didn't know he's a terrible ISO and one to one player on offense, and that he also can't guard anyone man to man.

Some of the teams in the league finally seemed to understand that this season, and started letting him go one to one and also making him guard other guys who could attack him directly.

The result? If you looked at Panathinaikos sites or social media, 80 to 85 percent of the fans couldn't wait to get rid of him, once they realized how bad he was as a straight individual player, and how much he could hurt a team with failed hero ball, failed chucking, and horrible defense.

But if you look at any American basketball site or social media, they pretend like TJ Shorts, or Markus Howard, are dominating and are among all time GOATs, etc.

Americans always have a built-in advantage when they first come to Europe, due to there being no scouting on them, and opposing players and coaches knowing nothing about them, as opposed to the European players that have been heavily scouted since they were teens. But eventually, say after a couple years, the scouting and coaching and player adjustments catch up with the American players.

Next, we will probably see claims being made from NBA only fans, that Faried was the peak Wilt Chamberlain of EuroLeague.

[Mirotic12]

Faried was playing in Mexico City for goodness sake for several years prior and is currently 36 years old… that says something about the level of play.

You can have several players so far detached from their prime and be high level players in the Euroleague.

It clearly says a lot despite what you feel about it. You want to put caveats about it, umm okay… I am
sure most people didn’t know he was even still playing just like Gallinari.

The last time I heard about Gallinari is that he was salary filler for the Murray trade and was immediately waived.

It was great that he was some Puerto Rican MVP or something but like many have said, he has not been on anyone’s radar for a while.

A hustle and energy rim runner on offense, that is small ball specific defensive specialist, isn't a high level player.

Faried is a very nice role player. He's PanathinIkos' new version of Stephane Lasme or James Gist, only a bit worse than either of them were.

And no one really consider them to be high level EuroLeague players overall, to be honest, even though they were better than Faried is.

[Blame Rasho]

Gallinari was Puerto Rico league MVP or finals MVP this summer.

Also, Faried very surprisingly was named Euroleague MVP of November, he is just on short term contract because all PAO centers are injured, but he filled in amazingly well. But he is a player who relies on guard creation and the fact he landed on team with Sloukas, Nunn and Shorts did help him a lot. But he had games where he was also blocking shots etc, he looked great.

That said, Euroleague is still very very good and I will not let **** talk it. Beside the fact it is more entertaining and close game just play out without 25 minute stoppage time, tHis FIBA window was another reminder how good Euroleague players are in grand scheme of things, because few players of theirs that playing in FIBA window, just dominated. Satoransky was setting records and I was watching Italy games and their Euroleague player, Gabriele Procida looked unstoppable, you would have thought he is NBA player for sure. And thats the guy who is on Real Madrid, so you know he is good, but he only appeared in one Euroleague game this seaosn, he is DNP-CD over 90% of the time in EUroleague, and during FIBA windows he still looked like a superstar player. Having EL players on NAtional teams now, is like having NBA players 20 years ago.

More like 40 to 50 years ago. Ioannis Athinaiou might be the FIBA Euopean windows GOAT, and while he was a very skilled player, he was basically like Olympiacos' 10th to 12th man, at various times, when he was on the team.

As far as Faried is concerned, EuroLeague teams have zero info or scouring on Faried. All he does on offense is run the floor and dive to the basket from picks.

Once teams figure him out, they can totally neutrallize him if they want, other than him getting some lobs from guard creation here and there.

He's a hustle and energy guy, and teams will figure out how to shut him down eventually.

EuroLeague hadn't seen the types of players like Markus Howard or TJ Shorts in a really long time, and after every team scouted them and had a built in way of playing them, they are below average role players at best, and actually if you factor in defense, they are among the worst players in the league.

Or with the case of Nunn, EuroLeague teams didn't know he's a terrible ISO and one to one player on offense, and that he also can't guard anyone man to man.

Some of the teams in the league finally seemed to understood that this season, and started letting him go one to one and also making him guard other guys who could attack him directly.

The result? If you looked at Panathinaikos sites or social media, 80 to 85 percent of the fans couldn't wait to get rid of him, once they realized how bad he was as a straight individual player, and how much he could hurt a team with failed hero ball, failed chucking, and horrible defense.

But if you look at any American basketball site or social media, they pretend like TJ Shorts, or Markus Howard, are dominating and are among all time GOATs, etc.

Americans always have a built-in advantage when they first come to Europe, due to there being no scouting on them, and opposing players and coaches knowing nothing about them, as opposed to the European players that have been heavily scouted since they were teens. But eventually, say after a couple years, the scouting and coaching and player adjustments catch up with the American players.

Next, we will probably see claims being made from NBA only fans, that Faried was the peak Wilt Chamberlain of EuroLeague.

Hey… you made an appearance… still waiting for all those busts that came from the NBA in the Euroleague and failed in their primes. You still can’t list them right because you had to edit a certain person’s wiki page?

You know something…. No one knows or cares about a guy named TJ Shorts, or Markus Howard… please show us all of the great American media sites saying this… hell, I would imagine less than .00001 percent of all posters know who these people are.

Please continue to posts your absurd posts as always, I like to laugh at your posts.

[Blame Rasho]

Faried was playing in Mexico City for goodness sake for several years prior and is currently 36 years old… that says something about the level of play.

You can have several players so far detached from their prime and be high level players in the Euroleague.

It clearly says a lot despite what you feel about it. You want to put caveats about it, umm okay… I am
sure most people didn’t know he was even still playing just like Gallinari.

The last time I heard about Gallinari is that he was salary filler for the Murray trade and was immediately waived.

It was great that he was some Puerto Rican MVP or something but like many have said, he has not been on anyone’s radar for a while.

A hustle and energy rim runner on offense, that is small ball specific defensive specialist, isn't a high level player.

Faried is a very nice role player. He's PanathinIkos' new version of Stephane Lasme or James Gist, only a bit worse than either of them were.

And no one really consider them to be high level EuroLeague players overall, to be honest, even though they were better than Faried is.

So basically the guy is good at the euroleague despite being old, washed, and years removed from playing in Mexico after his NBA career was over.

Still waiting for the lists of busts by the way…

[Mirotic12]

So basically the guy is good at the euroleague despite being old, washed, and years removed from playing in Mexico after his NBA career was over.

He's a hustle and energy role player. He's a rim runner, a guy getting wide open lobs and dunks, off of guard creation. A small ball big, that runs the floor and gives weak side shot blocking, and that goes after rebounds.

That's a very nice role player. That's not really a good EuroLeague player though, because there has to be some individual skill and game to qualify at the level of good.

As an individual player, he has a limited offensive game. As an individual player, he has limited offensive skills. His usefulness on offense depends mostly on guards spoon feeding him and creating for him to get wide open dunks and layups.

As a defender, he can be very useful, but it's matchup and scheme dependent, and it's also not about man to man covering a big down low.

That's a role player. That's very useful role player to have, especially considering the value that hustle guys and rebounders can add to a team, but it's a role player. It's not at the level of a good player overall, as those start at the baseline of being guys that at least have some Individual skills.

[Chuck Everett]

Enjoy retirement, Gallo. Great career.

[Blame Rasho]

So basically the guy is good at the euroleague despite being old, washed, and years removed from playing in Mexico after his NBA career was over.

He's a hustle and energy role player. He's a rim runner, a guy getting wide open lobs and dunks, off of guard creation. A small ball big, that runs the floor and gives weak side shot blocking, and that goes after rebounds.

That's a very nice role player. That's not really a good EuroLeague player though, because there has to be some individual skill and game to qualify at the level of good.

As an individual player, he has a limited offensive game. As an individual player, he has limited offensive skills. His usefulness on offense depends mostly on guards spoon feeding him and creating for him to get wide open dunks and layups.

As a defender, he can be very useful, but it's matchup and scheme dependent, and it's also not about man to man covering a big down low.

That's a role player. That's very useful role player to have, especially considering the value that hustle guys and rebounders can add to a team, but it's a role player. It's not at the level of a good player overall, as those start at the baseline of being guys that at least have some Individual skills.

So to repeat, basically the guy is good at the euroleague despite being old, washed, and years removed from playing in Mexico after his NBA career was over.


Ohhhhh…. Still waiting for the lists of busts by the way…

[bkkrh]

It was great watching him as a young player on the Knicks. He was drafted exactly the year we moved finally on from IT and it became exciting again to watch a young Knicks team grow until we traded for Melo. Weirdly I had totally forgotten that he was injured for most of his rookie season and that it was his 2nd season where he started to shine.