Will Americans win MVP in near future? Last 8 MVPs have been Non-Americans

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I'm not saying it's impossible, but it's a long shot. Detroit won 60 games (3rd in the league) and Cade had a monster year (24-10-5) and he really didn't get any traction. It's hard to imagine a better combo of individual stats and wins.

5th in MVP with 2 first place votes. If he does it again I suspect the surprise would be gone and more voters would put him up there.

I see it kind of like what Tatum has done in the past, and he's ended up somewhere between 4-6, iirc. Really good numbers on a really good team, but barring injuries, the next 5 years will be SGA, Jokic, Luka, or Wemby in some order. And only Jokic will be out of the running after 5 years. Giannis could potentially sneak in there if Miami gets their act together.

Trying to beat 5 guys who put up video game numbers is just really hard.

Completely agree. He also had to get the NBA to make an acceptation for his 64 games. So that might have hurt him too. I could completely see him getting it if his team has 60+ wins and the video game numbers are on 55 win teams instead of 60 win teams. Problem is Wemby and SGA with health teams will be right there too.

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Boozer ia cool but there's zero chance of him ever winning an MVP

I think it could happen.

Caveat everything that follows with "it's only been 11 games", but: Boozer is averaging 16-10-5 on atrocious shooting 37-29 and only 14 shots a game with 4 fta/game. I can see him eventually getting to a 16-18 shots/game range (not necessarily this year) with 6-7 fta/game and being a 50+fg% and 35+ 3pt% shooter (I think we'll see him near these % by the end of the year.)

I predicted at the beginning of the year he'd average something like 18-10-5 for the year, and he is well on his way to getting there and possibly surpassing it. I think he's eventually going to be a 25-12-6 guy. Basically a better version of KAT.

no way, Jose

i like Boozer, i think he will be a very impactful player but he'll never have the gaudy stats, he's a jack of all trades and that archtype doesn't win MVP's

he's obviously an elite rebounder but other than rebounding i don't think he's gonna dominate in any other aspect of the game. 18 FGA (or more) for a big man..that's something we see these days with players like Embiid, Markanen, Siakam etc. guys who are primarily scorers, shooters and are especially gifted in scoring. Kat is the best shooting big of his generation, Boozer will never be half the shooter Kat is (and that's not a knock on Boozer)

Boozer doesn't project to me offensively to be a guy you can really run a good playoff team offense through, nor will he be the shooter or scorer to justify him taking so many shots, especially when his energy will be much more sought after on the defensive end and as a playmaker for others. thus i doubt he'll top out as a 25PPG scorer. for reference,the only big men who averged 25+ ppg last season were: Jokic 27.7, Giannis 27.6, Embiid 26.9 and Lauri Markanen 26.7 - it's just not how the game is being played atm

Boozer can def avg. 12 Rebs (even more) and i think he can have more than 6 APG, we saw when Mike Brown changed the series by playing thru Kat as a passing and playmaking hub and other players in similar roles, i think 7-7.5 APG is def in play but again, 21-11-7 does not an MVP make in this day and age. an all NBA guy for sure, maybe even an MVP candidate but really winning an MVP? idk about that...

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5th in MVP with 2 first place votes. If he does it again I suspect the surprise would be gone and more voters would put him up there.

I see it kind of like what Tatum has done in the past, and he's ended up somewhere between 4-6, iirc. Really good numbers on a really good team, but barring injuries, the next 5 years will be SGA, Jokic, Luka, or Wemby in some order. And only Jokic will be out of the running after 5 years. Giannis could potentially sneak in there if Miami gets their act together.

Trying to beat 5 guys who put up video game numbers is just really hard.

Completely agree. He also had to get the NBA to make an acceptation for his 64 games. So that might have hurt him too. I could completely see him getting it if his team has 60+ wins and the video game numbers are on 55 win teams instead of 60 win teams. Problem is Wemby and SGA with health teams will be right there too.

Well, Cade clearly reads RealGM.

Video game numbers (yes, it was v the Wizards ; yes it was 2OT): 52-11a-5r

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Not for another few years at least. Luka probably wins it this year, followed by three straight for Wemby. I could see someone else win it in four years due to voter fatigue. Probably Flagg.

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Boozer ia cool but there's zero chance of him ever winning an MVP

I think it could happen.

Caveat everything that follows with "it's only been 11 games", but: Boozer is averaging 16-10-5 on atrocious shooting 37-29 and only 14 shots a game with 4 fta/game. I can see him eventually getting to a 16-18 shots/game range (not necessarily this year) with 6-7 fta/game and being a 50+fg% and 35+ 3pt% shooter (I think we'll see him near these % by the end of the year.)

I predicted at the beginning of the year he'd average something like 18-10-5 for the year, and he is well on his way to getting there and possibly surpassing it. I think he's eventually going to be a 25-12-6 guy. Basically a better version of KAT.

no way, Jose

i like Boozer, i think he will be a very impactful player but he'll never have the gaudy stats, he's a jack of all trades and that archtype doesn't win MVP's

he's obviously an elite rebounder but other than rebounding i don't think he's gonna dominate in any other aspect of the game. 18 FGA (or more) for a big man..that's something we see these days with players like Embiid, Markanen, Siakam etc. guys who are primarily scorers, shooters and are especially gifted in scoring. Kat is the best shooting big of his generation, Boozer will never be half the shooter Kat is (and that's not a knock on Boozer)

Boozer doesn't project to me offensively to be a guy you can really run a good playoff team offense through, nor will he be the shooter or scorer to justify him taking so many shots, especially when his energy will be much more sought after on the defensive end and as a playmaker for others. thus i doubt he'll top out as a 25PPG scorer. for reference,the only big men who averged 25+ ppg last season were: Jokic 27.7, Giannis 27.6, Embiid 26.9 and Lauri Markanen 26.7 - it's just not how the game is being played atm

Boozer can def avg. 12 Rebs (even more) and i think he can have more than 6 APG, we saw when Mike Brown changed the series by playing thru Kat as a passing and playmaking hub and other players in similar roles, i think 7-7.5 APG is def in play but again, 21-11-7 does not an MVP make in this day and age. an all NBA guy for sure, maybe even an MVP candidate but really winning an MVP? idk about that...

The odds are you are right. I mean, there are usually some 3-5 players that get any real consideration for MVP in any year, and probably something like 6-10 that do over the course of a decade. So just to be considered is massive praise.

I see Boozer being like Duncan or Garnett in the sense that they were guys who won MVPs but were not putting up insane regular season numbers. They were just obscenely consistent at getting 23ppg and 12rpg with high level defense. Those are levels I think Boozer can hit. Of course, he'd have to do that on a ~60-win team and perhaps get some help from a few guys being disqualified for awards.

Just to be clear, I am not saying Boozer tops out at a level like Garnett/Duncan; I think he'll be closer to a KAT/Kevin Love/Chris Bosh level player, but just like Marc Gasol was able to make the all-NBA team and get MVP consideration with outrageously modest numbers, I think we'll eventually see Boozer get consideration for a similar type of impact, but with numbers that look more like Garnett/Duncan + the 5-7 assists per game.

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Cooper Flagg looks like a future perennial MVP candidate. Already playing at an All-NBA level and hasn't even turned 20 yet.

The rest I don't see at the same level. Maybe if there's a bunch of injuries to the usual suspects.